Episode 6: What we REALLY eat after Bariatric Surgery (The truth about post-op hunger and nutrition)

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Steph?

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Hey Hannah.

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Welcome to another video episode of Bariatric Banter.

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We haven't shied away yet.

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We're not shied away yet.

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We're still doing this.

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So here we go.

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I love it.

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It's good to see you again.

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How was your week?

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Busy.

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Busy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I know that feeling.

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Work, busy, it's busy, busy.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad this is a long weekend.

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I took yesterday off and then for anybody who's not a Canadian, we are off Monday for

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Family Day because they felt like February needed to have a holiday in it.

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What do we call it?

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A statutory holiday.

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So yeah, Monday is a holiday.

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So I said, I'm taking tomorrow.

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I took yesterday off and I have a super long weekend.

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So good call.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm not, I'm not upset about having a holiday this month.

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I need it.

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Yeah.

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February is just, it's bitterly cold here.

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It's been like minus 23.

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It's just been, so I just need a super long weekend to just do laundry and do nothing.

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Yeah.

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It's what I'm hoping for.

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January takes forever all the time.

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Yeah.

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Too long.

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And then February is a short month, but it just feels like such a long time with nothing.

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And then March doesn't have a holiday.

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It has March break for the kids, but there's no holiday.

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Yeah, but nothing for adults.

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No.

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So it's nice to have that little mini.

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Well, not a holiday.

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Should be.

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So it's nice to have that day off in February because it's a long haul until Easter for

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all.

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It's a long haul till Easter, which like, I literally thought Easter was the beginning

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of April.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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Yeah.

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So I just need a vacation.

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And I was supposed to be off to do a bunch of stuff that I'm not doing.

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And I'm trying not to be bitter about that and trying to get over it.

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But yes, I'm not running my race in Disney.

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I'm not doing a lot in February because of pneumonia.

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So I'm still actively recovering.

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Pneumonia sucks.

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It hit my body super hard.

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And I'm just, my lungs are not recovered.

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So better to give them time to heal properly than push them too much and damage them.

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Because then you'll lose them.

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Or which I like don't listen well to that advice.

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You don't want to hear and is not the things you want, but I know in the things you need

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in the long run.

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Yeah.

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The things you need are rarely the things you want.

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So I've been taking it a bit more slowly, a bit easier and the weather just has not

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been cooperating.

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And I hate running on a treadmill.

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I'd rather be outside.

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So I'm fine with starting my running journey for this year in March.

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Totally fine with that because for those who run treadmill training is just the worst.

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It's just not enjoyable.

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So yeah, but I'm glad for a long weekend and I'm glad to be here chatting with you again.

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Me too.

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I'm glad to be here.

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This week's episode, episode six of the Bariatric Bantra podcast, we are talking about what

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we eat in a day.

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You know, looking at three months versus two years post-op, talking about macros, good

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recipes, bad recipes, you know, the whole, hey, it's high protein.

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High protein does not mean good.

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And then things that are called high protein that have like 10 grams.

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This is probably liars, like one of the things we message each other about all the time.

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The amount of messages or photo or like reels that we send each other, number one being

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like, can you try this?

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Did you see this?

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Or the amount of ones that we send each other being like, this is a lie.

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This is not high protein.

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Yeah.

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I have a dog in my office.

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So my apologies.

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Losing it right now if you can't hear him.

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The one interrupting the podcast right now.

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Well mine, I'm thinking there's something being delivered outside because mine is losing

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his bananas.

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Oh yeah.

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He's, yeah.

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He gets really heated about people lying about protein.

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So he was just weighing in to be like, yeah, hate that stuff.

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He's looking out for us.

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Yeah.

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Jerk.

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No, this is the one that's important because one of our earlier episodes, you know, we

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did talk about how hard it is to see other people posting and comparing yourself to them.

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And we just don't think that there's like an authentic look at what people eat.

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But also it's a question we get before people even have surgery.

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I don't know if I can give that up.

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What do you eat?

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You know, are you allowed to have this?

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And ba ba ba ba ba.

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And I, it breaks my heart that some people don't have surgery because they don't want

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to give up food.

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Yeah.

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And I used to say-

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And the motivating factor is it's not a-

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No.

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If you've heard me say it, if the reason you're not having surgery is because of food-

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You're not ready for surgery.

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And you-

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Like I'm not being mean.

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That's not a-

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Oh, but that's your red flag.

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It's, yeah.

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If you're that concerned that, oh, well, I really like to eat and cook big meals and

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but like, you probably need to have the surgery.

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Food in no way should be the deciding factor on if you have this surgery or not.

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No.

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And I have a little saying of, my uncle said this at the cottage the one day, a couple

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years ago, and it just sat with me because I had never looked at it that way.

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Is we were talking about food because we were talking, we were having the conversation that

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we had on one of our podcasts about how when people come over, you always have to put all

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this food out and we were sitting out at the cottage and somebody said something about,

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well, I'm getting hungry.

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We should put some nibblies out or something.

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And they got on the topic of food.

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Anyway, and he said, I eat till-

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He goes, yeah, I'm fine.

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And he goes, I'm one of those different people.

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I said, what?

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And he goes, I eat to live.

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I don't live to eat.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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He's like, I'll go all day without like either really eating.

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And he goes, I don't care what I eat.

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Just put something in front of me.

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I'll have a little bit and then like, I don't care.

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Yep.

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And I was like, interesting.

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So in my head at this time, I was like, there's people out there that live like that.

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This is normal.

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This is a thing.

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I had somebody tell me kind of something similar once in his life.

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He was like, oh, I could just eat like an MRE bar, like the military ration bars.

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He's like, if you just gave me a bar and said, this is like the calories and nutrients you

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need, it's fine.

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He's like, I don't like, food does not give me joy basically.

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And I remember thinking like, you're so full of shit.

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You're such an asshole.

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That's not real.

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We go out for sushi all the time.

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But like literally, he's like, I could take it or leave it.

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Like I only eat to sustain myself.

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And it was true because we were both students at the time.

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And I vividly remember because I would buy my groceries and he'd buy his groceries.

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At one point, he's like, well, I bought a loaf of bread and 12 eggs.

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And I was like, ew, you're just going to eat hard boiled eggs and bread for a week.

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He's like, it's cheap.

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I don't give a shit.

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And I was like, right.

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But I get it.

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And I will admit, it's very hard for people to hear us say that now.

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And I'm sure there's people rolling their eyes like these, you know, come on.

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And I admit when I was obese, it was like that.

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Come on.

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It was like that.

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That's how miserable a life.

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But the truth is, yeah, my life now doesn't revolve around food.

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Okay.

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In a sense, it revolves around like meal prepping.

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But I don't place my day on, okay, I'm going to go here because that's where the good restaurant

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is.

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And yes, McDonald's and if I go this way, there's no place to stop it.

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Correct.

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It's just anymore.

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And it's not like, oh my God, I'm starving and I'm going to order this big meal and I'm

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going to have that.

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Like my life doesn't revolve around or if I'm traveling or making plans with friends,

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our plans are now what restaurant are we going to?

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Aren't now where are we eating?

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Where are we going?

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It's anybody want to try go-karting and has anybody tried the new VR place?

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And does anybody want to go to this antique store?

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Go here.

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Like now when I go home, it's not, well, what are we eating and where are we going?

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It's more, hey, are we thrifting?

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Can we go shopping?

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Do we want to check out that gift shop in this?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And even now when I'm hungry, because I find I know about you, but I find I'm like, and

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I don't know if this is because I'm not as far out or I don't know, but I find I'm either

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not hungry or I'm like, I'm zero to 10.

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Yeah, that's normal.

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Days like we talked about, like when you're PMSing and your hormones are high that yes,

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I'm about food, a hundred percent.

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We're saying on a general basis, I eat my meal and then I usually have about a two hour

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window where I'm fine and then it's like, move over.

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I am starving and I need to eat right now.

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Do you remember that joke about like, I don't remember where it was from and I apologize

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if it's like an insensitive choke, but the one where it's like, oh, you're going to eat

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Chinese food and then be literally starving two hours later.

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That's kind of how it feels.

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It feels like, and it's, I'll preface that like, I don't know if it's, it's not food

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noise cause I know what that is, but this is more just, we have a very small stomach

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and food processes quickly.

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So yes, you can have days where you're like, my restrictions high.

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I'm not hungry.

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I'm not feeling it.

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Then you have days where it's like, I am ravenous, ravenous, but we don't starve ourselves with

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bariatric surgery and I hope this episode busts them myths because we eat.

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There's so many people that are worried about that or that see it and they're like, are

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you extra going to eat?

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'd argue we eat more than most people.

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I eat more now than I definitely did before surgery in it.

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Asterix caveat.

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Yeah.

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I ate a lot when I was 315 pounds.

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Like I ate like a, you know, fucking Mack truck.

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What I mean is like, I'm eating six meals a day.

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Now when I was obese, I'd go all morning without eating.

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I'd get up, sit at my desk work and it would be like 2pm.

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And then I would go get a full thing of crackers with tuna and cheese and a biscuit.

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And like I would just eat and then I would leave work and be starving and I would eat

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from five until bedtime.

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But I would convince myself that like, well, I hadn't eaten all day.

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It's not that bad.

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But I'd order an appetizer and a meal and a dessert because you know, I'm hungry.

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So I was eating a lot, but I'd argue now I eat more.

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I eat every two hours.

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And if I don't, like that's when like hunger eat now, but it's, it's every two hours.

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But that's what we were told and we're supposed to do that.

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So for people listening, it's not because we're starving ourselves.

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We're eating every two hours.

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Like we're told every two to three hours, you should be having a meal, snack, meal,

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snack, meal, snack, meal, snack.

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Yep.

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And snacks, snacks are not like half a banana.

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It's fiber protein.

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And I don't know what the third thing is, but something, but fiber protein, something,

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something, something.

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So like grapes, cheese, crackers, you know, it's some tuna, some crackers, some celery.

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Like, it's balanced.

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Yeah.

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Like my, my snack yesterday afternoon was, um, half a piece of, um, chicken deli meat,

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half a cheese, can you remember if I had a half cheese string or a full one?

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A low carbohydrate, chicken deli meat, a pickle, and a little bit of mustard to dip it in.

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Turkey roll up?

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That's good.

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So little balance or like yogurt and berries.

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Oh, yogurt berries and I'm throwing granola in there

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because I need some fiber and I got protein granola.

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Yeah, so balance.

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But I definitely am much more mindful

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of making food cues now.

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I'm mindful of consistent eating because I would say,

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I would wake up, I wouldn't have breakfast.

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By lunchtime, I would be ravenous.

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Then I would have a lunch

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and then I would have nothing all afternoon.

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And then I would get home from work, be starving again.

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And then it was like dinner, snacks, snacks, snacks,

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snacks, snacks, snacks, snack, bedtime, bed.

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And now when I am hungry or when I am having a snack,

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my first thought is not nachos.

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Yeah.

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My first thought is, okay, what do I have

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that's the highest in protein?

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Well, and like my first thought now is like balance.

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Whereas before it was, I'm starving, I want carbs,

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I want, you know, I wanna eat three pizza pops.

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Like I want burgers, I want like, do I still crave burgers?

291
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God damn right, I still crave burgers.

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But it was like, I make better snack choices.

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I'm pretty consistent with my snacks

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because I'm also like a lazy prepper,

295
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but it's usually a charcuterie plate.

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And if you told Hannah before surgery that like, yo,

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you're gonna be eating charcuterie plates,

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like probably every day, I'd be like, get the fuck out.

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But like, yeah, I make it all the time.

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I have this high protein cheese,

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it's this old white crumbly cheddar, so good.

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So I have my cheese, I do three ounces of cheese,

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I put a little honey on it.

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Yeah, I still have some sugar.

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I put a little honey on it and black pepper

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because it's like, oh, there's something good about that.

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And then I usually pick like a fruit

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or something to go on the plate with it.

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Grapes are kinda, you know, my jam.

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But recently I've been doing cherry tomatoes

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with a little salt and pepper, so good.

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And then I try to have some sort of carb.

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Before I was putting meat, so I have like turkey pepperettes,

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but I'm really lacking in my fiber lately.

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So I've been trying to go, okay.

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And as a runner, my dietician was like,

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you need more carbs in your body.

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So I pick and choose really good low fat crackers,

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but I'll put four or whatever the serving size is

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of my crackers.

321
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These crackers are great for low calories.

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Yeah, yep.

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And that's like, that's a snack.

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And sometimes I eat the whole plate, sometimes I don't.

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But I'm making like the portion size that's right for me

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at this stage of my journey.

327
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But if I don't have that, yeah, yogurt.

328
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Oh, I make the sugar-free pistachio pudding.

329
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Oh, that's so good.

330
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I mix it with a whole Fair Life shake.

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And I'll have that with some berries on top of it.

332
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I'm totally making that when we get off here,

333
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because I forgot I have the pistachio pudding.

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It's so good.

335
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Food, guys.

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And like, I eat food that's like dessert food.

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Do I eat things that aren't high in protein?

338
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Yes, it happens all the time that I'm like,

339
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you know what I'm craving for a snack?

340
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Did I have a sugar-free jello pudding cup this week?

341
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Yes. Yep.

342
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Yep.

343
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Was it high in protein?

344
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I could have like 0.1.

345
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Yeah.

346
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Did I work it into my macros?

347
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You betcha I did.

348
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Did I eat Nanaimo bars over the holidays?

349
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Well, an unhealthy amount of Nanaimo bars.

350
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Now I'll preface, I had pneumonia.

351
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And because of pneumonia being in the hospital,

352
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I rapidly lost about 15 pounds.

353
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It was not healthy, it was rapid.

354
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So we're talking like over the course of eight days.

355
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It was dangerous and not, it was because I was so sick

356
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and my body was shutting down so rapidly,

357
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I wasn't eating or drinking.

358
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And I ended up in the hospital

359
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and my blood sugar was like bottoming out.

360
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My blood sodium was super low.

361
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So they were like, hey, you gotta eat.

362
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And I was like, oh, I'm a bariatric patient.

363
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I'm about to be your worst nightmare.

364
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And they were like, well damn.

365
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They'd bring these trays of like, I'm not kidding.

366
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I was the only one in my, like on my floor

367
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that got two sandwiches, soup, gel.

368
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Like they were packing this tray for me.

369
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I remember you sending me pictures of like,

370
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was it chips?

371
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Yeah, and then chips.

372
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They were like, here, eat chips.

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But they were giving me these trays and I was like,

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I cannot eat a peanut butter and jam sandwich,

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then a turkey sandwich and get this soup down.

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And they were really concerned.

377
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And they were like, you aren't eating.

378
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And I was like, bariatric patient, severe pneumonia

379
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to the point that I'm on oxygen in the hospital.

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I was like, y'all, it's not happening.

381
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So they were like, you wanna eat some cookies?

382
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And I was like, I'm not gonna say no to a cookie.

383
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You want a donut?

384
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And I was like, yes, I do.

385
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So I was, again, that's why, yes, do I eat these things

386
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when I had pneumonia?

387
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Sure, do I eat them all the time?

388
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No, but if I want a cookie, I'll have a cookie.

389
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Like I do it in moderation, but nothing is like off limits.

390
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Which this is a great time.

391
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Like we should probably talk about kind of what are

392
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the macros we're adhering to, kind of like what,

393
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because you're three months post-op and I'm almost two

394
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and our lives are completely different.

395
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So maybe this is a great time to tell everybody

396
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briefly overview kind of maybe what the rules are for us

397
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and what our life looks like at this state.

398
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Yeah, so for me, I'm, yeah, what, oh my gosh,

399
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what am I, three and a half months?

400
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Hey, congratulations.

401
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,240
Yeah, that's exciting.

402
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,200
Right, exciting, it is.

403
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Time flies, it really does.

404
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,120
And it flies on one hand, but in the other hand,

405
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it feels like forever.

406
00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,840
Like I feel like I had this surgery ages ago

407
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and this is old news.

408
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But then on the flip side, I was like, oh my gosh,

409
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like it's only been three months.

410
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So for me, currently I'm just pulling it up,

411
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I wanna make sure I get it right,

412
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cause I just increased it.

413
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So for me, the ones I pay the attention to the most

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are protein and carbs, and then I watch my sugars.

415
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I don't track my sugar, but I watch my sugar.

416
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And for me, I just don't keep a lot of things in the house

417
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for me that are high in sugar.

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So I kind of even eliminate that from being an option.

419
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I do Stevia as my sugar replacement in a lot of things.

420
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,400
So there's, but like, yeah, we talked about like sugar-free

421
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jello, that kind of stuff, sugar-free pudding, all of that.

422
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But my goals right now are 30 grams of carbs a day,

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24 grams of fat, again, I don't really track that.

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And 70, my minimum is 70 grams of protein.

425
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So 30 carbs, 24, 70 protein minimum.

426
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My calories, what that works out to calorie wise is 616.

427
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,560
Okay.

428
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So I'm trying to get closer to 80 grams of protein,

429
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but it is a struggle in that particular calorie bracket.

430
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So that's kind of where I am.

431
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Like I said, sugar, I pay attention to it.

432
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We have, we'll say guidelines around where we should be

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with sugar and fat.

434
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So I keep it in mind, but I don't track those.

435
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And then fiber is something that I pay attention to.

436
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And I do track it in the sense that I'll look at,

437
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I use MyFitnessPal.

438
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Oh, me too.

439
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:09,400
I'll put everything in there for the day.

440
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And then I'll go to my nutrients and I'll look at

441
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where I'm sitting on everything.

442
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So I look at where I'm sitting on fiber

443
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and I will try to pick options that get me the highest.

444
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Yeah.

445
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But I'm also taking like a fiber drink right now

446
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to help increase that.

447
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I was there.

448
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Yeah, not on that I'm working on,

449
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but I've increased my calories once so far.

450
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So I was at 500 calories, 60 grams of protein.

451
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Now I'm at just over 600 calories and 70 grams protein.

452
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So for me right now, I'm trying to figure out

453
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when do I do that next?

454
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Increase.

455
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That's what I'm trying to play with right now

456
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is when does that happen?

457
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And it's a scary thing.

458
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And we actually have a whole podcast episode

459
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and it's coming up in the next two-ish weeks

460
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where we'll talk about the fear of regain

461
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because Steph and I, she knew about it

462
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when I was at that stage and she's at that stage

463
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where it's like, we are clinging desperately

464
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to not increase the calories because we're so scared

465
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that we're stalled.

466
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I don't wanna, I've been stalled for a week.

467
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So that's like super normal.

468
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Super normal.

469
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Yep, super normal.

470
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It happens, there's also like a lot of very common times

471
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that it happens.

472
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Three months is a very long time.

473
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Right around this time.

474
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Yep.

475
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So it's tough because I'm getting my hydration.

476
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So for me right now, I'm supposed to be getting

477
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about one and a half liters of hydration a day.

478
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I'm hitting that.

479
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,360
I'm usually a little bit over.

480
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I'm hitting my protein.

481
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I'm within my calorie deficit.

482
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Clearly I'm in a calorie deficit.

483
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You are.

484
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Clearly, but I've been stalled for a week.

485
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Exactly.

486
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Well, it's hard.

487
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,680
So I'm trying to increase that protein

488
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and I know when I increased my calories and protein last time,

489
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I started losing again.

490
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I had whooshes.

491
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So part of me is sitting here going,

492
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okay, maybe I'm at that point.

493
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Maybe I need to do a little bit increase.

494
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The other part of me is like, hell no.

495
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,920
Don't increase.

496
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You're not going above 616.

497
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Don't do it.

498
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No, no, no.

499
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Even now when I'm planning my day,

500
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like I was literally messaging Hannah saying,

501
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okay, I really want eggs for breakfast,

502
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,800
but I was going to have a protein coffee

503
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because it's high in protein

504
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and if I have an egg, I'm not going to hit my protein.

505
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And then if I do hit my protein,

506
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it puts me over my calories.

507
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And so I was like, no, I'm not.

508
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,680
I'm not going over my calories.

509
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,480
And then you're like, Steph,

510
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,960
you're still in a calorie deficit.

511
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,800
You're in a calorie deficit.

512
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,080
You're still in human calories.

513
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,360
You're still in debt, like simmer.

514
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,680
I was like, hey Steph, eat the egg.

515
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,200
You get so focused on seeing positive progress

516
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520
and not wanting to hinder that.

517
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,800
But obviously I can't stay at 616 calories.

518
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,640
No.

519
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,760
Like that's not sustainable.

520
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,720
No, and I remember just saying eat the egg.

521
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,880
If you want to eat the egg, eat the egg.

522
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,080
I did, I made the egg.

523
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,440
I get it because I was at this stage too.

524
00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,000
And again, people progress at different times too, right?

525
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,960
So there is like the blanket, this is what you need to do,

526
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,480
but some people are faster or slower.

527
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,080
So there will be people going, oh my God,

528
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,160
I'm at three months and I'm only at 400 calories.

529
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,000
That's okay.

530
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840
And then there'll be people going, holy Jesus,

531
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,640
I'm at three months and I'm at a thousand.

532
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,480
Also okay.

533
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,800
Like your bodies will progress the way you're supposed to.

534
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,840
And the frustrating thing with our clinic

535
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,040
is they won't give us macros or calories.

536
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560
They just give us protein goals to hit.

537
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,920
And like you can hit your protein goal

538
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,520
and be like way overeating in calories.

539
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,360
It's not impossible to do that.

540
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,760
They give us like the end goal calories.

541
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,960
So like they'll give us a meal plan and they'll say,

542
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,160
okay, when you're like a year or so out.

543
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,360
Yeah, when you're a year out.

544
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,480
Full portion.

545
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,720
Okay, that's great.

546
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,840
But when I'm three months out, what's my portion?

547
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,680
Exactly.

548
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,880
And when do I increase that portion?

549
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,000
Yeah, which welcome to where I'm at now.

550
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,560
Right, right.

551
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,680
I was where Steph was.

552
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520
So we'll dive into all this in a sec.

553
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,600
We'll just go over quickly.

554
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,440
Look, you heard what she's at three months post-op.

555
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,960
I'm coming up on two years, March 13th of 2025

556
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,960
will be two years.

557
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,920
I'm not gonna lie.

558
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,480
It's really scary and hard.

559
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760
I'm now reaching what I'm suspecting

560
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,000
will be the hardest year of surgery.

561
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,280
And I'm not trying to go into it with that mentality.

562
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,800
I love what I've done and I'm excited.

563
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800
But to her point, I haven't really been given

564
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,320
like what do I do and what's normal.

565
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,200
And calories are terrifying because I don't wanna be obese.

566
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Now I have a great therapist that I work with

567
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240
and a great dietitian and I share all these fears

568
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280
that I'm gonna wake up one day and be 300 pounds again.

569
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,120
And they both said, well, we'd have warning signs

570
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,720
before that happened.

571
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760
I'm slowly losing weight, but it's nowhere near

572
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,360
what it was when I was in surgery.

573
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,880
Like I still have probably like 15 more pounds

574
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,800
I wanna lose before I'm comfortably where I wanna be at.

575
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,520
And like, I love where I'm at.

576
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,040
I've lost over 150 pounds of G-coupane,

577
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,560
but I just have this goal weight in mind

578
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,640
that I wanna get to.

579
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560
I don't wanna have to be in a massive deficit

580
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,960
and have to be at the gym six days a week to get there.

581
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,480
So where I'm at, my dietitian feels like it's very doable

582
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,400
for us to get 15 more pounds down,

583
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280
hit maintenance and hold maintenance.

584
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,400
But it's scary cause I've had to figure a lot of this out

585
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,360
on my own, but with the help of a very smart dietitian.

586
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,960
So my current nutrition goals look like the following

587
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,760
and they'll probably change.

588
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,760
But currently my calorie goal for the day is 1365.

589
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160
When you are one year post-op,

590
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,200
the range that they want you to be at is 12 to 1500.

591
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,320
That's the range.

592
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,760
There is no exact 1252, it's 12 to 1500.

593
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160
They don't want you going over 1500.

594
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160
And now logically that's a calorie deficit.

595
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,360
Even if I was at the upper range of 1500,

596
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,280
like that's for a female, that's a calorie deficit.

597
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Wow, that's a calorie deficit.

598
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040
But 12 to 1500 is where they want you.

599
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480
So there are people that are gonna say,

600
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,520
I didn't have surgery and I'm eating in that deficit.

601
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Good for you, thumbs up.

602
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,400
Like you probably don't need to be that low, but sure.

603
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760
But that's normal for bariatric surgery.

604
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,360
And then my goals are as follows within that.

605
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,400
119 grams of protein or 35% of my nutrition

606
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040
should come from protein.

607
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,280
119 grams of carbs or 35% of my nutrition

608
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,440
should come from carbs.

609
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,040
And 46 grams of fat or 30%.

610
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600
So I do the 35, 35, 30 rule.

611
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,360
Again, you'll do what's best for you.

612
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,400
I am a runner.

613
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,400
I haven't been running for a bit because of pneumonia,

614
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,240
but I'm a runner.

615
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240
So I need more carbs in my diet.

616
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,200
Carbs are not the enemy, carbs are not keeping you fat.

617
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680
You literally burn carbs as a source of fuel

618
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,920
when it comes to running and cardio activity.

619
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,440
There is nothing wrong with that.

620
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,840
It's not empty carbs.

621
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,680
I'm not eating white bread and crackers.

622
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,680
It's sweet potatoes, it's quinoa,

623
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,600
it's complex carbs that take longer to digest

624
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,120
and break down.

625
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,440
But those are my goals.

626
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,360
They work absolutely well for me.

627
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,240
I'm around 1365 calories a day.

628
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,240
I keep my sugar to 10 grams or less per serving,

629
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,400
which means 10 grams or less per meal and snack.

630
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Sugar is a big thing for me that I do not budge on.

631
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520
That is gonna be one that I very, very, very much look at.

632
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,680
Now with the exception being I was in the hospital

633
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,520
and told that I needed to get my sugar up

634
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,320
because I was dangerously low.

635
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,280
Yep, I'm gonna listen to the doctors who tell me

636
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,000
that I need to get my sugar up.

637
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,480
But normally it's less than 10 grams.

638
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,520
So it's less than 60 grams a day

639
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,680
and I usually don't come close to that.

640
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,960
My fiber goal is 25 grams a day.

641
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,520
I'm immensely struggling with that.

642
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,360
I will be honest, it is a hard one for me to hit.

643
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,760
I aim for low cholesterol and low sodium

644
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,960
because before surgery I had high blood pressure

645
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,280
and high cholesterol.

646
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,480
I don't anymore thanks to diet changes.

647
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,880
But that's what I do.

648
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,080
I do not count my exercise towards this.

649
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,120
This is a hot topic.

650
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:07,000
I don't touch my exercise.

651
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,280
Before surgery.

652
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,600
I woke up. I did.

653
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,080
I worked out for an hour, I can have more pizza.

654
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,600
And I would connect my fitness tracker to my fitness pal

655
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,000
and I'd go, oh, awesome,

656
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,160
I can have 700 more fucking calories today

657
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,280
because I worked out.

658
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,360
Yeah, I no longer count my exercise towards my eating.

659
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,520
This is my eating and it's what I do.

660
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,600
Now, with that being said,

661
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,920
have I had days where I've had more than 1356?

662
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Absolutely, there are days where I had 1450, 1475.

663
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,120
I was hungry that day.

664
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:41,280
I had an extra snack or I had a slightly bigger meal.

665
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,560
And it's fine.

666
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,680
It is not gonna derail me or throw me off my goals.

667
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,560
I'm still in a calorie deficit.

668
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560
And that's like my dietician has said,

669
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,400
they're gonna be,

670
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,240
we're gonna start heavily working now

671
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560
on my training schedule for my half marathon.

672
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,280
And she said, what you eat the day you run

673
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,240
is gonna be very different

674
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,120
than what you eat the day you don't run.

675
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,640
And my protein goals will change because of that as well.

676
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,120
There'll be days where my carbs are not nearly as high,

677
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,920
but on days that I'm running, yes,

678
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240
I need to be burning fuel to run and that fuel is carbs.

679
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,080
And I'm okay with it

680
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,160
because I've still been losing weight on this diet.

681
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000
So I'm sure there are people who are gonna be like,

682
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,160
oh my God, Hannah, I'm five years post-bariatric surgery

683
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,360
and I ate a thousand calories.

684
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,520
Good for you.

685
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,200
I don't want that to be my life.

686
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
No, we didn't do the surgery to starve ourselves.

687
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,400
No, I did like, that's not the point.

688
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,360
People who've seen me eat lately,

689
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,520
like I can see them watch me

690
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960
and they're literally like seeing how many bites I take

691
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,000
and how much food is left.

692
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,640
And they're like, is that all you're eating?

693
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,960
Like I'm full.

694
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,800
I'm full.

695
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Guys, I'm not hungry.

696
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Like I'm full, I'm satiated.

697
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,000
I am even to the point where like,

698
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,840
I took that extra bite that I shouldn't have

699
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,360
and now I'm paying for it because it hurts

700
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,520
and I don't feel good.

701
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760
I am not hungry.

702
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,160
And I know, I think it was on the weekend, last weekend,

703
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,960
I had two people say to me,

704
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200
you're not gonna eat like this forever, right?

705
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,200
And I was like, no.

706
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840
I was like, I will eventually be at the 1200, 1500

707
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,360
galleries eventually, but I have to work my way up there.

708
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,880
And I just have to keep telling my family,

709
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,280
like I'm not hungry.

710
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,320
I'm fine.

711
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,160
I'm fine.

712
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,000
I'm so full.

713
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600
And like, please just stop commenting on what I'm eating

714
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,800
because it's stressing me out.

715
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,960
I know you're watching me.

716
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,040
I know you're looking at me.

717
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,440
I am fine.

718
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,880
I didn't have the surgery to starve.

719
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,720
No.

720
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,920
And you know, it looks from the outside,

721
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,760
I know it looks like it.

722
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,960
Like you look at me, who's had a quarter cup of something

723
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960
as my serving and because it's not normal.

724
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,800
No.

725
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360
And I know if I was sitting somewhere

726
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720
and I watched somebody eat a quarter cup of food,

727
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,800
I would literally be like, where's your next bite?

728
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,640
That's not enough.

729
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,480
That's not enough.

730
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,800
But I can promise you, I'm she full.

731
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,680
It still happens.

732
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,600
I go home and I will say, you know what?

733
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080
My parents get a lot of love on this podcast as they should,

734
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,360
but I'm gonna give them big ups.

735
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,600
So when I first had surgery,

736
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,440
I could have punched my dad in his fucking teeth

737
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,120
when he, every time I went to eat,

738
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,240
is that all you're having Hannah?

739
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,240
That's all you're having?

740
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,480
Hannah, do you want wine with dinner?

741
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Hannah, you gotta have more.

742
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,960
And I was like, I'm gonna need you to stop.

743
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,440
And I could hear my mom in the kitchen,

744
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Reg, you're gonna shut up.

745
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Shut up and stop saying that.

746
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,040
And like trying to explain to him why,

747
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080
like I know he was saying it just because he was kind.

748
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Now I love it.

749
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,960
Now I go home and he's like,

750
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,520
do you wanna come lift your own plate?

751
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,200
I do, thank you.

752
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,480
And he'll be like, how about this?

753
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680
Like this little tail section of the salmon,

754
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,040
that can be for you, okay?

755
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,880
Do you wanna lift it?

756
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Or I was like, it's fine dad, you can lift it.

757
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720
But like now they asked, and my mom is really good with,

758
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,120
you can lift your own plate.

759
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,280
Because we came from a culture where mom plated your food

760
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440
and I swear to God, you better eat what's on that plate.

761
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,280
And it's like-

762
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Don't leave the table till your plate is empty.

763
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,440
And I remember my brother saying,

764
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040
when he was home, like during COVID, he lived at home.

765
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,720
And I remember him being like, Jesus, stop putting stuff

766
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640
on my plate, like I don't wanna eat that, I don't want that.

767
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720
And he said it in a dickish way,

768
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,120
but he made a comment about like,

769
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,080
oh my God, look at your portion sizes.

770
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,720
And I was like, that's, hey dude, that's not the way.

771
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Like you're shaming them

772
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,880
and they're gonna overeat for that.

773
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Now they've just naturally kind of started to look

774
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,960
at their portion sizes.

775
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,560
Okay, it's probably because of me,

776
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,280
but I'm not pushing this on them.

777
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,000
You force them to think about it and take them-

778
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,840
And they do.

779
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Nope.

780
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,560
And my mom has said like,

781
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
we're kind of looking at our portion sizes now.

782
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,640
And I was like, portion sizes were a large issue for me,

783
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,720
a large issue.

784
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,800
And that's why-

785
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,080
And that's why it's such a shock for people to see you eat.

786
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,880
And like you said, they're asking it because-

787
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Kind of love.

788
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Worry and they care,

789
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,440
because they don't want you to be hungry.

790
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,720
And I know that's why people are-

791
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,560
Exactly.

792
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Because they don't want to think

793
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
that I'm sitting here starving myself.

794
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Yep.

795
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,240
But it's a hard concept for people to understand that-

796
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,440
It is.

797
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,280
We only-

798
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
I can only hold, what?

799
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Like three ounces in my, not three,

800
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,040
I'm on maybe a bit more than three ounces.

801
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040
You can have an initial one egg omelet.

802
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,880
A cup.

803
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,720
What's a cup?

804
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,540
Eight ounces?

805
00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:54,720
So I can hold a cup.

806
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Uh, like 0.88 of a cup.

807
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Like a full cup.

808
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:00,760
It's not great.

809
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,600
It doesn't feel great.

810
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,720
It doesn't, it's not painful,

811
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520
but it's more like, okay,

812
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,360
I know I don't need to keep eating.

813
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
That's been really interesting going into two years of like,

814
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,080
when you're first out, she hurts.

815
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160
You get sweaty, you get burpy, you get,

816
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,600
but as you get further out,

817
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,520
it's more just a feeling now.

818
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,800
And that feeling is strong.

819
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,040
Hey, you're full.

820
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,880
You're full.

821
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,560
You could be like, I'm a,

822
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,840
I'm a fucking eat a little more.

823
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,320
And it's like, don't.

824
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,240
But I can hold just shy the cup of food.

825
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,760
And that's going to be normal for the whole rest of my life.

826
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,000
We'll do a whole episode on,

827
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
can you actually expand your stomach after surgery?

828
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Huge eye roll folks, come on.

829
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560
But I can hold just shy the cup of food.

830
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800
So I,

831
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,340
it's going to be hard for me to overeat.

832
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:45,600
So just leave it alone.

833
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040
But also like, don't judge me if I eat a little bit of dinner

834
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480
and then literally two hours later,

835
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,360
I get up and go make myself a snack.

836
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,960
It's not that I didn't like your food

837
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,520
or I didn't eat enough at dinner,

838
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,960
literally hungry again.

839
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,160
I don't go to bed hungry.

840
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,300
I don't go to bed starving.

841
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:00,000
My stomach isn't rumbling.

842
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,800
When I was obese, absolutely.

843
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640
There were days where I was like,

844
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,620
I wanted to cry because I was like,

845
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:06,640
I'm so fucking hungry,

846
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,760
but I've already had 1500 calories

847
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,280
and I shouldn't have a single thing more.

848
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,120
My sleep to bed.

849
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,960
That's why I'm fat.

850
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,920
I'm eating.

851
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Yeah.

852
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,600
I'm eating because of the room.

853
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,720
I'm like, hey, I'm going to bed because otherwise.

854
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,920
I'm starving.

855
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,760
Yeah.

856
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,560
And then I would binge or fall off the wagon.

857
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120
And the thing I need to convey to people is

858
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,320
if you're overweight,

859
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,760
your calorie deficit should not be 1500.

860
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
I don't know who told you that or why you think.

861
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,520
I'm a bariatric patient and 1500 is our upper limit.

862
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Like just let that sink in a bariatric patient.

863
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,440
You are not a bariatric patient.

864
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,880
You don't have a restriction to help.

865
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,300
Like your calorie deficit is probably like 1800, maybe 19.

866
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,760
Like don't please don't let people convince you

867
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920
that it is super low.

868
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,760
No.

869
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Yeah.

870
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,420
This is not where you need to be.

871
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:50,260
Most of you only need to be

872
00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:51,800
in like a three to 400 calorie deficit.

873
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,520
And when you're obese, like when I was 315 pounds,

874
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,120
I guarantee you that probably was like

875
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,780
1,800 calories would have been a deficit.

876
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,320
So, whoa.

877
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,140
But the one thing that really,

878
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:05,240
and we won't go too much into this

879
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,560
because we'll save it for another episode

880
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,760
because we'll talk about recipes next.

881
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,200
But the one thing that bugs me

882
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,640
and that you have to be aware of in the bariatric community

883
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,660
is this effing notion

884
00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:20,200
that you should be eating a thousand calories or less.

885
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,540
There are so many influencers out there

886
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:25,280
that it's basically an undiagnosed eating disorder.

887
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Fight me on that if you want, but I stand firm in that.

888
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,640
There is no award for eating less than someone else.

889
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,000
There is no award for being like, I ate a thousand calories.

890
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,240
There's no award for eating one meal a day.

891
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,640
Your success isn't gonna be better than my success

892
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,960
because you're eating less.

893
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000
If anything, I'm noticing you're stalled

894
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,520
or I'm noticing you're not really where you wanna be.

895
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,960
But I'm really tired

896
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,480
because I had a huge conversation

897
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,120
with my therapist about this this week.

898
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,120
And I've talked to Steph who's like,

899
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800
had to literally talk me off the ledge of bawling my eyes out

900
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,560
where I've said, I feel like I'm overeating.

901
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,960
I feel like a failure.

902
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,400
I feel like I'm gonna be fat again.

903
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,520
I feel like the worst bariatric patient,

904
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,280
I just feel horrible because I said, they're barely eating

905
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,880
and I'm eating six meals a day.

906
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,840
And I've started to super overanalyze my portions

907
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,520
and I feel like I'm a huge failure.

908
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,040
And the truth is they're not following the rules,

909
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,800
which is 1200 to 1500 calories, six meals a day.

910
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
And not two meals up for success.

911
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Yeah, and bariatric surgery does not tell you

912
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,200
that you have to eat a thousand calories,

913
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,280
only drink and never eat again.

914
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,000
It doesn't say you have to be carb free.

915
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,960
It doesn't say you have to get rid of foods you like.

916
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640
It doesn't say you have to be sugar free.

917
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,200
And I'm tired of the influencers

918
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,040
that are making me feel bad.

919
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,240
Not that they're doing it on purpose,

920
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,400
but I'm tired of this notion

921
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,240
that it's somehow so acceptable that they're barely eating.

922
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,440
You're doing it because you're scared

923
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,360
you're gonna gain weight.

924
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560
You're doing it from a really unhealthy place.

925
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,320
We're not supposed to be drinking our calories and protein.

926
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,880
It's okay to have those things in your meal,

927
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960
but you're supposed to be doing full foods.

928
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,360
That's what you were told.

929
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
And just get off social telling people

930
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,880
that you're eating a thousand calories a day

931
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,160
and that's super normal.

932
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,360
Most of you are on Ozempic

933
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760
and you're not telling people you're on Ozempic.

934
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,960
And it's fine if you need to be on Ozempic

935
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,760
to hit your goals and be where you wanna be,

936
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,760
but I feel like I'm failing

937
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,240
and I'm eating 1300 calories a day.

938
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,680
And I genuinely feel like I'm failing.

939
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,240
The fact that people are being put into that mindset

940
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,080
is not okay.

941
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080
And like, I don't get a gold star today

942
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,200
because I only eat three quarters of my egg omelet.

943
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560
And then tomorrow when I eat the whole thing,

944
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,640
I'm gonna sit and be like,

945
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,600
well, shit, yesterday I didn't eat the whole thing.

946
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Now I'm gonna ruin it because now I ate more today.

947
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200
You have to, number one, listen to your body.

948
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400
Your body will tell you when it needs something.

949
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,440
Don't ignore your body.

950
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,600
Like I said, we didn't have this to starve.

951
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,680
We're not here to deprive ourselves to starve.

952
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Are we focusing on certain foods over others?

953
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Yes.

954
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,720
But like I said, there's no,

955
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,120
and this gets into again another topic

956
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,440
of good food and bad food.

957
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,920
Which we promise we'll cover.

958
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Are we watching our sugar?

959
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Yeah.

960
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,240
Are we still having sugar though?

961
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,080
Yeah.

962
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,920
Yeah.

963
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,760
We are.

964
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,360
I use a lot of stevia instead of sugar,

965
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,280
but I still, the yogurt that I had last night,

966
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,120
there's sugar in it.

967
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,960
I have maple syrup.

968
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,120
I have honey.

969
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,000
My dietician said if you're gonna have it,

970
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,640
I'd rather you just have it.

971
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Right.

972
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
So yes, we are being mindful.

973
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Yes, we are picking whole foods over processed foods.

974
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,520
But you know what?

975
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Are we having chicken nuggets?

976
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Yeah.

977
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,760
Yup.

978
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Are we, are people having burgers?

979
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,320
Yup.

980
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,160
I don't wanna talk about burgers.

981
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,800
We have a great recipe for sliders.

982
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,640
So bad.

983
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,480
Like so bad.

984
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,320
I can't wait.

985
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Yeah.

986
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,800
But yeah, we're, it's just making different choices.

987
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,760
And you know what?

988
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,360
Is there gonna be a day that I'm gonna have some pizza?

989
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Probably.

990
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Probably.

991
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,160
I'm not, I'm sorry.

992
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,800
I'm not gonna say no to things that I like forever.

993
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Am I gonna make-

994
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,480
No.

995
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,320
Yes.

996
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,160
Am I gonna make healthier options?

997
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Yes.

998
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,840
Less.

999
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Is it gonna be a special thing that only happens sometimes?

1000
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,360
Yes.

1001
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Right?

1002
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Yup.

1003
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,720
But it's not about starvation.

1004
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,840
It's not about deprivation.

1005
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,440
And it's about what works best for your body.

1006
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,280
Yes.

1007
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Listening to what you need.

1008
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Ding, ding, ding.

1009
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Eat when you're fricking hungry.

1010
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Just eat when you're hungry.

1011
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,280
Bariatric patients-

1012
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Eat your food.

1013
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Being hungry is okay.

1014
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Like being a little like, hmm.

1015
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,520
To be hungry.

1016
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,360
I could maybe eat something like, hmm,

1017
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
I could maybe have, you know, that's normal.

1018
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,520
But if you're sitting there going,

1019
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,520
I'm so hungry.

1020
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,360
That's food.

1021
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Like that is not what bariatric surgery's supposed to be.

1022
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,440
And it is normal that you'll think about food.

1023
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Like it's normal to be like, ooh, it's, you know,

1024
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,280
it's 1.20 in the afternoon.

1025
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,120
It's up here.

1026
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,960
Yeah.

1027
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Ooh, what am I gonna have for lunch?

1028
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,720
Like that's okay.

1029
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:01,560
That's normal.

1030
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,400
There are a lot of bariatric patients

1031
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,680
who will rush to the doctor's office and go,

1032
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,800
I am thinking about food.

1033
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,600
I need Ozempic.

1034
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000
It's normal to think about food still.

1035
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,840
Like you're a human.

1036
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,720
You are gonna think about,

1037
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:13,880
what am I gonna make for lunch?

1038
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Or Steph and I think about now,

1039
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,920
okay, have I had enough protein?

1040
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,840
Ooh, do I need to have a snack right now?

1041
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,440
Because I haven't had, like for me,

1042
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,840
I'm going it's 1.20 and I only have-

1043
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,680
I was just-

1044
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Have to eat 30.

1045
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,440
It was the last thing we can like, ooh, ooh.

1046
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,480
That's not great.

1047
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,560
Like, so yeah, am I thinking about food right now?

1048
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Yes.

1049
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,840
Because the one thing you need to know is

1050
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,560
because of the size of your stomach,

1051
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,880
you can't just make up not eating.

1052
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,920
So they stress this to me and so does my dietician.

1053
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,960
A normal person could probably look at their watch and go,

1054
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,480
it's 3 p.m. and I still need 100 grams of protein.

1055
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,280
I'm gonna make it up the rest of today.

1056
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,080
I do not have the capacity to make it up.

1057
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,720
So when I miss a meal,

1058
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,040
it's not like I can double up on my next meal.

1059
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,880
I don't have the space in my stomach.

1060
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,040
I show you all day off.

1061
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120
So once you miss your goal, you kind of miss your goal.

1062
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Now that doesn't mean give up and get derailed,

1063
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920
but what they're trying to say is

1064
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,440
it is normal for you to go,

1065
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,400
I need to have my three snacks and my three meals

1066
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,920
and it's okay to go, ooh, what's my lunch gonna be?

1067
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,800
Like you can still be excited about,

1068
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,720
what am I gonna have next?

1069
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,480
I don't like this really toxic notion about food noise

1070
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,760
where because you're thinking about food,

1071
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520
it must mean you need to get rinsed and thicker.

1072
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520
And again, be on it if you wanna be on it, I don't care.

1073
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,120
But just be conscious that surgery doesn't take away

1074
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,080
wanting food or thinking about food.

1075
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160
You shouldn't be thinking about food 24 seven

1076
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,600
because then yeah, you're getting back into like

1077
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,200
your binge eating and bad habits,

1078
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,240
but you will think about food.

1079
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaking of like meals and stuff,

1080
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,520
I go out to restaurants with friends.

1081
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,120
We have a dinner club and once a month we go out,

1082
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,000
I make better choices, different choices.

1083
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
So I'm not ordering mains because I,

1084
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,040
I'm never gonna finish that and there's just no point.

1085
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040
We usually try to go to tapas restaurants

1086
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200
and they're really great at finding like sharing plate

1087
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680
restaurants or restaurants with good appetizers.

1088
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,080
I don't go to like, I go to the pub every now and then

1089
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,160
for trivia, but I usually don't eat much from the pub.

1090
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,240
But I don't go to like pubby places

1091
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,680
where it's gonna be fried food.

1092
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,720
We went to a really great sharing plate

1093
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,480
and I had some branzino, I had some poached shrimp.

1094
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,840
We had a little terrine of like venison.

1095
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,800
It was awesome, they had a poached pear dessert.

1096
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,120
So we had that and again, these are sharing plates.

1097
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,400
So it was me and other people.

1098
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,400
So I was able to have a few bites of the branzino

1099
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,520
and then I could have a shrimp, I actually had to.

1100
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,400
And then I was able to have a slice of the poached pear.

1101
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,240
It's part of your life.

1102
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,800
Because it's, again, it's sharing plate.

1103
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
So I didn't have to feel awkward about,

1104
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,080
oh, I can't eat this whole meal.

1105
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080
But I still go out and I usually just order

1106
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,160
from the appetizer menu and try to make decent choices.

1107
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,760
But I have a recipe for sliders.

1108
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,280
I make quesadillas, there's currently quesadillas

1109
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,520
in my freezer, it's my favorite lunch now.

1110
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,840
It's got refried beans and chicken and burrito sauce

1111
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,920
and it's in like a carb tortilla.

1112
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,680
These quesadillas are less than 100 calories

1113
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080
and pack 20 grams of protein in them.

1114
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,480
And they're fire, they're so good.

1115
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,880
I still have burgers, I just make sliders

1116
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,120
and I still have a bun.

1117
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400
I'm not gonna eat a patty wrapped in lettuce.

1118
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520
Like I want a bun, I'm having a bun.

1119
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,000
The bun is 100 calories.

1120
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,800
Ooh, like I'm having the bun.

1121
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,640
It's work of the day.

1122
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,400
I'm having the bun, okay, because it's good

1123
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,840
and I want this little slider.

1124
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,640
I can only eat a slider, but it doesn't matter.

1125
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,800
It's the best slider I've had.

1126
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
I've had chicken wings, I've had chicken nuggies.

1127
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,760
I eat when I go home to my parents' house,

1128
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,360
whatever they're making, I just modify.

1129
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,000
If it's salmon and noodles, I'll have salmon and broccoli.

1130
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Like I eat.

1131
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Yeah, I have treats.

1132
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,520
Your life is not on hold because you had surgery.

1133
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,520
I just don't revolve around food.

1134
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Like my life, I still meal prep and I love it.

1135
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,040
I make roasted sweet potatoes,

1136
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,240
like I'm in my sweet potato era right now.

1137
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,080
It's delicious.

1138
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,200
But you can still eat whatever you wanna eat.

1139
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,840
Now, I will preface, you need to track.

1140
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,880
People don't wanna track,

1141
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,640
who are gonna tell you they don't track, that's dangerous.

1142
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
You can eat what you wanna eat, but track.

1143
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,200
It's not because you should feel guilty,

1144
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,920
but it's because it can quickly spiral

1145
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840
because you could just eat chicken wings.

1146
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Nine chicken wings, like a thousand calories.

1147
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,680
And you're gonna pack those chicken wings away

1148
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,840
and still be hungry.

1149
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,840
So just track it and it will all find a balance

1150
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,000
and then be okay with some days going over.

1151
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,040
It's fine.

1152
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,920
The big thing you need to know is,

1153
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,640
if you ate a donut every day, yeah.

1154
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,080
If you ate a donut once every three months,

1155
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,040
it's not gonna derail your weight loss goals at all,

1156
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,480
but that's how we think.

1157
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,080
We think because one day out of the week was 14, 15,

1158
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,920
instead of 13.

1159
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,880
Really? Done.

1160
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Oh, I'm gonna be fat.

1161
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,720
It's not how life works.

1162
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,160
Everything in moderation and balance,

1163
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,320
but just watch some of the influencers

1164
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,280
because they make me feel bad about myself

1165
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,640
and they don't do it on purpose,

1166
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200
but I don't believe that's how little they eat.

1167
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,840
I don't believe, and there's a reason they're not showing you

1168
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,640
if they finished their plate or not.

1169
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,600
I believe it's very dangerous.

1170
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,600
I will promote an influencer called eatingvsg on Instagram.

1171
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,120
She's Canadian.

1172
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,800
Her account has been a lifesaver.

1173
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,360
She posts all her meals for the day.

1174
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,840
And then she posts the macros, the calories,

1175
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,800
and if it was a recovery day or a running day,

1176
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,800
ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

1177
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,920
There are days where she eats 1,400 plus calories or 1,500.

1178
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,560
She's lost an extreme amount of weight

1179
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
and is a half marathoner.

1180
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,320
And I love looking at it because I'm like,

1181
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,360
oh my God, she had a croissant or she had a sugar cookie.

1182
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,040
She's eating and her stuff isn't snacks, snacks.

1183
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,120
It's food, food.

1184
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,960
She's having pasta.

1185
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000
She's having stews.

1186
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,400
She's having real food.

1187
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000
So we're gonna start sharing more of that

1188
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,640
on our Instagram going forward, guys.

1189
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Sorry, gals and guys.

1190
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Because we just think collectively,

1191
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,200
it's not really showcasing what it's like.

1192
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,800
I fear regain.

1193
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,600
I fear gaining weight.

1194
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
I fear my portion size.

1195
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,240
I'm so full of fear at two years.

1196
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,760
And I wanna start sharing what I eat

1197
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
because I am not gaining weight.

1198
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560
I haven't gained weight in two years, knock on foot.

1199
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,960
I'm still slowly losing weight.

1200
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960
I'm exercising where I should be.

1201
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,840
And I'm gonna start showing you guys what I eat

1202
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,320
because I don't see it represented

1203
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,840
in 90% of the people I see on social.

1204
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,360
And I think that that's dangerous.

1205
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,200
Agreed.

1206
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,840
There's a really good girl on TikTok.

1207
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,000
She's also from Ontario.

1208
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,280
I just looked her up to make sure I get it right.

1209
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,640
But her name is bariatric Kayla.

1210
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Okay. Kayla.

1211
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,800
She, I have followed her since I started deciding

1212
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,840
if I was going to be having the surgery.

1213
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,160
And one of the things that I really liked about her is

1214
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,360
she shows her what she eats in a day.

1215
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,280
She shows how much she's making.

1216
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,080
She tells you how much it is,

1217
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,320
how many grams, how many ounces, whatever.

1218
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,560
And then she always shows you the after,

1219
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,640
which I find very helpful.

1220
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,080
And if she goes- I love that.

1221
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,560
So she did a video the other day.

1222
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,960
I don't know if it was over one day

1223
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:01,920
or a weekend or whatever, but she said, you know,

1224
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
she goes out sometimes.

1225
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120
But this just happened to be one of the times

1226
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,680
where she went out twice.

1227
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,120
And so she posted her videos

1228
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,600
and the one was chicken wings.

1229
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,600
And so she was showing how, how she,

1230
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,960
how many chicken wings she ordered,

1231
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
how she decided what to order, first of all,

1232
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,400
which is helpful.

1233
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,240
Yes.

1234
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,400
She showed the chicken wings.

1235
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,120
She showed how, you know, she eats her chicken wings.

1236
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,320
She waits a minute.

1237
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,880
She eats the chicken wings, she waits a minute.

1238
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,000
And she showed, I think she only ate three of them,

1239
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,400
took the rest home.

1240
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Another one, she went to Subway and she said the same thing.

1241
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,040
I'm having my bread.

1242
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,880
Like I like bread.

1243
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,700
Oh, yeah.

1244
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:34,540
I'm having carbs.

1245
00:45:34,540 --> 00:45:35,760
Yeah. So she explained that.

1246
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,400
She gets a six inch and then she gets

1247
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,440
in half again.

1248
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,640
So she said, number one, it's good

1249
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,240
because she usually doesn't even finish a six inch.

1250
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,160
And it's also kind of that mental thing of,

1251
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,000
it looks like a bigger sub.

1252
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Oh, that's genius.

1253
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,920
Yeah.

1254
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,740
So she said, you kind of still feel

1255
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:53,480
like you're having a real sub.

1256
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,320
Oh, I like that.

1257
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,600
She showed like what she put on it.

1258
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,000
And then she said, you know,

1259
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,040
she'll probably only eat half of the sandwich.

1260
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,880
Which then she did.

1261
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,080
She showed exactly how much was like,

1262
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,760
she's just very transparent.

1263
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,640
And as somebody, when you're early on in the stage,

1264
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,520
you want to see that because again,

1265
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,200
we talked about comparing yourself to other people,

1266
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,200
but to have some sort of guideline or guideposts

1267
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,720
to follow and say, okay, this is,

1268
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:22,560
this what I think maybe not normal.

1269
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,160
This gives me an idea of where I need to be.

1270
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Yep. And don't be afraid to eat out.

1271
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,680
And again, don't think you have to give up everything.

1272
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,160
You don't, you really don't.

1273
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,140
Now you have to eat in moderation and be smart

1274
00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:36,640
because regain is a huge thing.

1275
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,080
We'll talk about it in a podcast.

1276
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Statistically, it's going to happen to 30% of you

1277
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,880
that have this surgery,

1278
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
regardless if you have bypass or sleeve,

1279
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,440
but it's almost a hundred percent because of lifestyle,

1280
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,380
not because the surgery fails.

1281
00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:51,120
So you gotta, yeah, you gotta make those choices.

1282
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,920
You gotta eat, you gotta listen to when you're full.

1283
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920
That's a big one we'll cover in that episode too.

1284
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,540
Like you gotta stop pushing through

1285
00:46:57,540 --> 00:46:59,240
and just eating because it's in front of you.

1286
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:02,280
So the rule in bariatric surgery too, is there's no grazing.

1287
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,300
Do not order something and then take two hours to eat it.

1288
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,620
You have 30 minutes, eat what you've eaten,

1289
00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:08,720
and then you're done.

1290
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,380
Don't mindlessly eat on the couch.

1291
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:11,880
Don't eat while you're playing video games.

1292
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Is this such a big one for me?

1293
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,320
I have to stop eating while mindlessly doing things,

1294
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,800
but don't graze.

1295
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,480
And then just be wary of who you follow on social.

1296
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
This will kind of sound hypocritical,

1297
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:29,120
but follow people that like fit what you believe

1298
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,960
like this looks normal,

1299
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,800
but do not follow people that give you an excuse

1300
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
to break the rules and do bad things.

1301
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,640
There is someone who we will not name on social

1302
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,600
that is literally not following the rules.

1303
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,280
Like I'm talking about ordering takeout several times a day,

1304
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,440
like just did a big post about Taco Bell.

1305
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,800
I think her first diet pop was like a week after surgery.

1306
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Like just multiple a day.

1307
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,940
Multiple a day.

1308
00:47:57,940 --> 00:48:00,860
Eating fast food and takeout,

1309
00:48:00,860 --> 00:48:02,420
like eating fried mozzarella sticks,

1310
00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:04,420
like complaining that they ordered from Taco Bell

1311
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:05,660
and only ate half of it.

1312
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:07,060
And what a waste of money that was.

1313
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:09,180
Like two hours eating the quesadilla

1314
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:11,100
and like forcing herself to finish it.

1315
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,700
Forcing herself to eat this deep takeout quesadilla.

1316
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:15,900
And then wonders why like,

1317
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:17,660
oh, I'm not really losing the weight

1318
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:19,100
and I'm kind of in a stall.

1319
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:21,420
Yeah, it's just, again,

1320
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:23,580
there are people like that who are gonna break the rules.

1321
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:26,040
And what breaks my heart is seeing all the people comment

1322
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,740
going, I finally found someone real.

1323
00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:31,680
And oh, girl, I can't wait to go do this too.

1324
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,380
And I can't wait to order Taco Bell.

1325
00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:35,980
And like, thank you for showing the real side of surgery.

1326
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:37,780
So while we do advocate,

1327
00:48:37,780 --> 00:48:42,060
go find people with a more realistic view of surgery,

1328
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:46,020
don't find people that justify bad eating habits

1329
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:47,260
and call it real.

1330
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:49,300
So the two people we listed will share their,

1331
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:50,140
like we don't know them,

1332
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,260
we're not affiliated with them,

1333
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:54,900
but we'll show their Instagram because we just felt for us,

1334
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:59,900
it showed a very healthy, like not unrealistic view

1335
00:48:59,980 --> 00:49:01,380
and they shared all the details.

1336
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:03,200
That's what we're saying when we say find real,

1337
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,460
not influencers that don't share the macros

1338
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:07,620
that say they're eating a thousand calories or less,

1339
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:10,540
like unless they're like less than a year post-op,

1340
00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:12,060
that's dangerous.

1341
00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:13,940
But don't follow people that are eating fast food

1342
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:15,300
and telling you it's super normal.

1343
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,140
Sure, it is.

1344
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:17,500
Yes, you can eat fast food.

1345
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,380
You can after surgery.

1346
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:21,740
There's three times I got a happy meal

1347
00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:24,060
because I was on a road trip and just needed something.

1348
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:25,500
So I got a little kid's hamburger

1349
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:26,900
because it was 300 calories.

1350
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,900
And I was like, well, better than, you know,

1351
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,100
I guess other things,

1352
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,980
but this person eats it several times a week

1353
00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:36,740
and like you're just back in your old bad eating habits.

1354
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:40,180
Like I kicked my ass when I am back in my old eating habits

1355
00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:42,540
and I go, okay, it's time to wake up.

1356
00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:43,380
So-

1357
00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:46,280
Somebody who wasn't ready mentally for the commitment

1358
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,300
and the lifestyle change.

1359
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,060
No, they were not.

1360
00:49:50,060 --> 00:49:52,820
That is this program and is this surgery.

1361
00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:56,740
It is more, and a friend of mine had bypass yesterday

1362
00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:58,860
and I said to her this morning and I said,

1363
00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:01,060
the hard part, the hard physical part's over.

1364
00:50:01,060 --> 00:50:03,700
You had your surgery, you're going home this morning.

1365
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:04,860
Now it's the mental.

1366
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,100
And I said to her in particular,

1367
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,420
I know she's gonna crush it.

1368
00:50:07,420 --> 00:50:08,740
I know she will.

1369
00:50:08,740 --> 00:50:10,700
But I said, now it's the mental.

1370
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:12,940
And that is the biggest part of this.

1371
00:50:12,940 --> 00:50:16,260
And if you are somebody who's going into this journey,

1372
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:19,420
you have to be mentally prepared

1373
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:21,700
for the changes that need to happen.

1374
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:23,340
You have to be willing.

1375
00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:26,740
So you gotta get rid of your takeout obsession.

1376
00:50:26,740 --> 00:50:28,380
You gotta delete those apps off your phone.

1377
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:32,100
Hard truth, you gotta get rid of fast food from your life

1378
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,420
because it's a slippery slope.

1379
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:36,220
And there were times that I did it

1380
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:38,400
because I was like, well, the calories don't seem that bad.

1381
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,580
The servings are small, they're full of fat.

1382
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:42,820
They don't satiate you.

1383
00:50:42,820 --> 00:50:45,020
You have to make your own stuff

1384
00:50:45,020 --> 00:50:46,380
and become reliant on your stuff.

1385
00:50:46,380 --> 00:50:49,020
Eating out is great, but pick high quality restaurants.

1386
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:51,780
Don't be like, yo, you know where we're going? Eastside Marios.

1387
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:54,560
Probably not, probably not a great choice.

1388
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,580
Why don't you go to a local restaurant that has fresh food

1389
00:50:57,580 --> 00:50:59,140
and maybe try something different?

1390
00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:01,500
You all probably don't wanna hear what I'm saying,

1391
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,500
but it's the hard truth that-

1392
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:05,100
You wanna be successful.

1393
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,580
You gotta change your diet.

1394
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:07,980
You gotta change your lifestyle.

1395
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:09,100
It's not about dieting.

1396
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,300
It's about literally smaller portion sizes,

1397
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,220
controlling what goes into that,

1398
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:15,740
making your own food,

1399
00:51:15,740 --> 00:51:17,860
and not falling back into bad patterns

1400
00:51:17,860 --> 00:51:20,380
of high sugar, high fat, easy takeout.

1401
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:23,380
That's what's gonna put you back where you are

1402
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:25,180
because it's a slippery slope.

1403
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:26,860
You're gonna have good years and bad years.

1404
00:51:26,860 --> 00:51:28,120
So you have to prepare yourself

1405
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,460
to navigate the good and bad times

1406
00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:32,140
so that you don't just go,

1407
00:51:32,140 --> 00:51:33,860
because you can absolutely,

1408
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:35,340
regardless of the surgery you had,

1409
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:36,460
gain all your weight back.

1410
00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:38,340
And it happens much quicker than people think.

1411
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:39,980
It's within the first five years.

1412
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:42,420
And it happens to 30% of patients.

1413
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:43,800
And that's a Canadian statistic.

1414
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,740
So God help me, I don't know what the American one is,

1415
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:48,340
but this is why they stress,

1416
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:49,540
probably don't drink again.

1417
00:51:49,540 --> 00:51:50,980
It's empty calories.

1418
00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:52,740
You can't be drinking all your protein.

1419
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:54,140
You can't be having a ton of sugar

1420
00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:55,940
and you can't be having a ton of high fat.

1421
00:51:55,940 --> 00:51:57,980
You gotta make better choices.

1422
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:59,780
Because if not, you do exactly what happens.

1423
00:51:59,780 --> 00:52:01,700
Oh, I'm in front of the TV and I'm just gonna snack.

1424
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,060
Oh, it's Super Bowl Sunday.

1425
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:04,260
Just gonna have pretzels and dip.

1426
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:05,460
Like it's fine, it's okay.

1427
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:07,060
It is.

1428
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:10,000
But if you don't watch that

1429
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,660
and then make sure that the rest of the days are okay,

1430
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:13,900
then it becomes, well, it's okay.

1431
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:14,740
Well, it's okay.

1432
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:15,560
Well, it's okay.

1433
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,140
It's like, oh, oh, yeah.

1434
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:21,900
And once you go too far over,

1435
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:23,980
you get back into where you were before surgery

1436
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:26,800
where it becomes really hard to restrict

1437
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,620
and eat the calorie deficit.

1438
00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:31,420
Because now your body is raring to go.

1439
00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:33,780
And it's like, no, I want 2000 calories again.

1440
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:36,060
And it's like, no, no, no, we gotta get back to 1500.

1441
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:37,180
Good luck.

1442
00:52:37,180 --> 00:52:39,380
Once you've got your body into a mode

1443
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:42,220
where that's now gonna feel like a really hard challenge.

1444
00:52:42,220 --> 00:52:45,140
So if you can stay between 12 and 15

1445
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:47,940
and let it vary in that range,

1446
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:49,860
you can get yourself back on track.

1447
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:52,060
But if you start going way past it,

1448
00:52:52,060 --> 00:52:54,000
getting your body back to 1500,

1449
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,080
it's not gonna want to go back to that.

1450
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,620
And you will feel it starving.

1451
00:52:57,620 --> 00:52:59,460
Your brain, the chemicals in the food,

1452
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:03,380
the hormones, the cravings, it's all gonna come back in.

1453
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:05,180
And so your body's gonna want it.

1454
00:53:05,180 --> 00:53:06,300
Your brain is gonna sit there.

1455
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,660
The food noise is gonna be super loud.

1456
00:53:08,660 --> 00:53:09,500
Super loud.

1457
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,020
The cravings are gonna be just sitting in your mind.

1458
00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:14,540
And that's why we talk about this person

1459
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:16,620
having diet coke two weeks post-surgery.

1460
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:18,160
We're not saying you can't have diet coke.

1461
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,000
No, but-

1462
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,840
Right, right?

1463
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,520
But it's so important to set the habits in place

1464
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,900
from day one and get that strong foundation in place

1465
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,260
so that it just becomes the norm.

1466
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:30,100
It becomes the norm.

1467
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,480
So you're building those building blocks.

1468
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,820
You're building the foundation.

1469
00:53:33,820 --> 00:53:35,580
It becomes your lifestyle change.

1470
00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:36,880
It becomes habit.

1471
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,020
You don't have to think about it.

1472
00:53:38,020 --> 00:53:40,020
It's just more moving forward.

1473
00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:40,860
Exactly.

1474
00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:42,980
And then you can start, okay, you want your diet coke?

1475
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:44,100
Have your diet coke.

1476
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:44,940
Yeah.

1477
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:47,380
Because you know you're not gonna drink seven of them

1478
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:48,900
or three in a day.

1479
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,620
You know like, oh, okay.

1480
00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:52,660
And again, it's not that diet coke

1481
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:54,060
has sugar and calories in it.

1482
00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:56,220
It's that it's filling your stomach

1483
00:53:56,220 --> 00:53:58,580
and not giving enough room for protein.

1484
00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:01,120
And again, it's like when is diet coke

1485
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,360
gonna stop being enough and regular coke needs to come in.

1486
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,200
And if you're gonna slip on that-

1487
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,820
And when you used to have the diet coke,

1488
00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:08,860
you probably had it with the burger.

1489
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:09,940
You had it with the nachos.

1490
00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:11,660
Oh, the Doritos.

1491
00:54:11,660 --> 00:54:12,500
Right?

1492
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,820
So it goes hand in hand and like I said,

1493
00:54:14,820 --> 00:54:16,100
it goes down that slippery slope.

1494
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,160
So that's why that beginning part is so important

1495
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,180
to listen to the rules, listen to your body,

1496
00:54:22,180 --> 00:54:25,240
focus on the good things and set that foundation in place.

1497
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,420
Everything in moderation because the thing is like,

1498
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:29,780
could you lose weight on diet coke?

1499
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:32,420
Yeah, you could, but you're not getting the protein

1500
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:33,820
and other things in that you need, right?

1501
00:54:33,820 --> 00:54:36,020
So you're gonna become weak and then you're tired

1502
00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:37,300
and then you don't wanna work out

1503
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:38,340
and then you get in a headache.

1504
00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:40,580
And you're wondering like, why is it not working?

1505
00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:42,820
Well, because there's a reason they say you need

1506
00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:45,140
to get X amount of fiber and X amount of protein

1507
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:48,740
and X amount of carbs and like you have to balance it.

1508
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:50,620
Like again, we're gonna get into this

1509
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,700
in a whole other episode where we're gonna talk about

1510
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,500
regain and what you need to follow and all of that jazz.

1511
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:00,260
But we are gonna start sharing on Instagram

1512
00:55:00,260 --> 00:55:02,700
as we wrap up here, what we're eating.

1513
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,260
We're gonna share it from our personal channels

1514
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:06,020
and just reshare it onto the podcast one.

1515
00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:07,340
So follow us on Instagram.

1516
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:10,140
We are at Bariatric Banter podcast.

1517
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,580
Subscribe to us on whatever platform you listen to us.

1518
00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:14,340
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1519
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:17,260
Like go such a long way in helping us find other people

1520
00:55:17,260 --> 00:55:18,900
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1521
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:20,620
Let us know what you wanna see us cover.

1522
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:22,380
But in the next couple of episodes,

1523
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:25,100
we are gonna cover a lot of what we went over.

1524
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,940
In the next few, we're gonna talk about comorbidities,

1525
00:55:27,940 --> 00:55:29,660
something we mentioned last week

1526
00:55:29,660 --> 00:55:31,020
that we didn't have time to get into,

1527
00:55:31,020 --> 00:55:32,660
but we're gonna go over high blood pressure,

1528
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:35,860
blood sugar, cholesterol and answer the question

1529
00:55:35,860 --> 00:55:38,140
of does surgery erase these things?

1530
00:55:38,140 --> 00:55:40,620
We're gonna also talk about dating and relationships.

1531
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:42,500
So what's it like being single and dating

1532
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:43,660
after being obese?

1533
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:44,900
How is it having surgery,

1534
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:46,660
being in an existing relationship

1535
00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:48,220
and navigating all of that?

1536
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:51,980
And then later on, we're gonna talk about regain and fears.

1537
00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:54,540
We're gonna talk about exercise routines and a lot more.

1538
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:58,620
So thank you so much for all 200 of you that listen to us.

1539
00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:00,700
Please subscribe, please review us.

1540
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:02,460
Let us know what you want us to talk about.

1541
00:56:02,460 --> 00:56:03,580
Follow our Instagram.

1542
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:06,780
We're gonna start sharing recipes when we go out to eat,

1543
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,980
what we eat in a day, macros.

1544
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:11,180
We're gonna share all of this with you guys

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in the next coming weeks and over the next couple of years.

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But just a huge thank you to every one of you that listen

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and of course to you, Steph,

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for joining me again for another wonderful week.

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No, love it.

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We're gonna, yeah, I said we're gonna start getting

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into some of the personal ins and outs of our daily life

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on Instagram too so you can see what it's like

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in the life of Han and Steph.

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But like Hannah said, thank you so much.

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Hope you guys are loving the video format.

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Let us know and we'll see you next week.

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See you next week everybody.

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Bye guys. Bye Steph.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Let's a go.