Episode 39: That Viral Social Recipe Was A Lie!!

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Good morning, Steph. Hello, Hannah. Welcome back

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to another episode of Bariatric Banter Podcast.

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And for us, it's Friday. Friday. This is our.

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Oh, no, I was going to say this is our last episode

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of November, but I don't think it is. No, I think

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we have one more. No, no, we have one more. I

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don't know. See, I'm losing all track of time.

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I know. No, I don't know. No, this is our last

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episode. Look at that. That's crazy. My God.

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What? Okay. Yeah. Because we'll come back to

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you guys December 1st with our next episode.

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That's crazy. This is, what is happening with

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Tom? I am not, I am not ready for like Christmas.

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No, I am. Okay. Listen, I am one of those people

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that will not decorate before Remembrance Day

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because. Neither will Devin. Oh my gosh. They

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deserve to have that. You know, they do. And

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I also just need a break from decorating for

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Halloween and just getting a little bit of like

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fall because October is all Halloween. And I

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kind of want like a little bit of late fall.

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So I wait. And then usually I start to see pictures

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of people decorating. Facebook does a great job

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of telling me, hey, every year you've decorated

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around this time. I'm not decorating this weekend.

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I'm going to wait. The last week of November.

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I know. Controversial. Weird. I get it. No, that's

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okay. There's a lot of people that wait until

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December 1st. Like they finish November. We,

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Devin's a very big, like no Christmas until after

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Thanksgiving also. Yeah. But then the other day,

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I think it was like the 8th or something. It

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was just slightly before Thanksgiving and I was

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out with the girls. We were doing some shopping

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and we went to the dollar store and they saw

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the Christmas decorations. So I let them each

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pick out like one little thing to put on top

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of the piano. And, uh. So I put them out. Devin

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was at work. I put them out and he comes home

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and I was just waiting and he didn't notice at

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first and he didn't notice. And then all of a

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sudden he walks past the piano and he just stops

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and he looks and he looks at me and he goes,

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what is this? And I said, well, we went to the

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dollar store and the girls had fun picking something

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out. And he goes, first of all, it is not Remembrance

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Day. Second of all, we have so much Christmas

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shit already. in the garage. And I was like,

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I know, but it's just, it's snowy, you know?

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And he, so he let me keep them up, but nothing

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else is allowed out until after remembrance day.

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And I put, I put a Christmas song on the other

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day. Cause it started snowing here. He made me

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turn it off. Oh, OK. See, I can't do Christmas

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music before December 1st because we have like

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50 Christmas songs that just get played on repeat

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for the whole month of December. So I get real

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tired of I want a hippopotamus for Christmas

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by, you know, December 3rd. So I can't do that

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till December 1st. But OK, so hilariously, I'm

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at. HomeSense last night because basically I'm,

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you know, self -funding that entire company with

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how much I'm not. And they had the weirdest music

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and all the Christmas decorations are out. And

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I walk in with a friend and I go, I'm sorry,

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is this like a techno rave music right now? See,

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I can't handle that Christmas music. But it wasn't

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Christmas. It was like piano techno rave. And

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I'm just standing there going, what? They don't

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know what to play right now. They don't know.

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They shouldn't be playing Christmas music, but

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they don't know what else to play. And it's like

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that weird middle, the weird middle moment. So

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bizarre. And so we keep walking and then every

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other person that walked into the store, you

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could see it on their face. They just kind of

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went, what is this? What is playing right now?

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It was. See, I like, I like Christmas music at

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home because like now, because I can control

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it. I don't like Christmas music yet in the stores

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because. shopping Christmas music and like at

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home Christmas music I find to be very different

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the shopping yeah shopping Christmas music is

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always the same standard crappy songs and it's

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always on repeat in every store I swear like

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every store has the same Christmas CD that they

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loop for the whole month of December and part

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of November so I don't mind Christmas music at

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home or in the car When I drove with the girls

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the other day, I put it on. And Leah, my youngest,

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called me out. She's like, Mom, it's not Remembrance

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Day. Dad says no Christmas. I said, well, you

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know what? Dad's not in the car. So I put it

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on. But at home, yeah, Devin's like, no Christmas

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stuff till December 1st. I get that, though.

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I've been starting to sneak it in. I will say

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some little things have made their way out. And

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then, you know, am I excited that the Christmas

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menus are coming back? Yes. I think I'm kind

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of. excited to see those things back at stores

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so you know Starbucks is a great example it's

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got its Christmas menu out and I think I said

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to you this morning oh gingerbread syrup's back

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so you know I'm finding a way to work that into

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my diet because I love the gingerbread syrup

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like I am just such a big fan of that so I'm

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working that into It's I think it's between eight

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and nine grams of sugar, which I know like that

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is a substantial amount, but I'm not going to

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work that in, though. Yeah. You just kind of

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build around it. So I'm glad that's there. And

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then and this is a treat and this kind of goes

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into what I want to talk about this week for

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me. But. They have their Turkey Sage Danish.

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And if you haven't had it. I haven't even seen

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this. Okay, so this is like, and I apologize

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for telling everyone about this who's very early

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in their bariatric journey or who struggles with

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fast food stuff. But like the Turkey Sage Danish

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at Starbucks is just chef's kiss. I didn't even

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know this was a thing. Oh, this is a thing I

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think they started last year. So it's like. It,

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you know, looks like, have you seen the ham and

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danishes or the spinach and feta danishes? Yeah.

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But it's filled with turkey sausage, which I

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was like, oh gosh, thank you. Thank you. And

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then a bechamel sauce. Not much. Like it's really

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lacking on the, it's a good thing. And then sage,

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like a lot of fresh sage flavor and it's 270

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calories. So I do know like this is a, this is

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a treat, but it's grams of sugar and only 13

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grams of fat. And I was like, okay, this is not

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that. No, you can make that work. And it has

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eight grams of protein. Would I love the protein

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to be higher? Sure. But it is a small pastry.

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I just love that they're doing turkey sausage.

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I'm happy that this is turkey sausage. Now it's

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a treat. But if you're going on a road trip,

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you're running late, this is one of the lower

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calorie things you can get outside of the egg

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white and spinach wrap, which I know. But I'm

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so tired of the end. You can only have that so

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much. The feta is so salty and I've had it for

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so, so. Yes, there's a Starbucks in my plaza.

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Yes, I tend to go to it if I'm driving places

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or I'm heading into the office. This is cute

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Christmas. One off. I like. You know, you got

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to like work things in it. We kind of talked

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about this the other day when we were going down

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the whole like discussion about an Instagram,

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not on that podcast. And you and I were talking

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about like always doing swap outs and always

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finding alternatives. And sometimes you just

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got to say, screw it and eat the real thing.

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And are we sometimes doing more damage to ourselves

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and our pocket books because those things are

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always more expensive? Are we sometimes damaging

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ourselves and doing more doing more damage to

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ourselves by stressing out about trying to find

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swap outs, trying to find alternatives, trying

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to find, oh, I can't have that. I can't have

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this. I can't do that. to sometimes just do it

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and be mindful, work it into your day. But like

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I said, I don't want to live in a diet mentality

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anymore. I don't want to have that mindset all

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the time that I am on a lifelong diet and I'm

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dieting and I'm noticing my kids are always like,

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oh, you can't have that because of your diet.

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And I don't want to live like that. I want to

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have a lifestyle. And I just want better choices

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to be part of my lifestyle and it to be the norm.

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And I find when we get too caught up on, I can't

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have that. I can't have that. I can't have that.

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We start going down that diet mindset again.

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And so for me, like you said, it's a treat. It's

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not something you're having all the time. The

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other day I went out with my kids and I knew

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I had a lot of calories and stuff left. I just

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hadn't been really hungry. for the earlier part

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of that day. And we went to Tim Hortons. I had

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promised them a treat. We had gone grocery shopping.

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We went to the dollar store. We were having like

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little girls day. Did I have a Boston cream donut?

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You bet your ass I did. But you know what? Yeah.

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Did I track it? Yes. Did I add it into my day?

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Yup. And did it impact the scale the next day?

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Nope. Nope. Am I going to have one every day

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of the week? No, but you know what? I don't give

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a shit. I'm having my donut. Yeah. When I had

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pneumonia, I lived on sour cream glazed donuts.

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Now, okay, I'll put the caveat out there. I was

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told I had to eat high calorie, high fat. Yes.

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I was like, I had lost a... Gaunt. Yeah, I was

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very, very ill. I had lost a certain amount of

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weight and I just, I couldn't eat anything. So

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they were like, please eat high fat. Eat a donut.

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And I was like, I could go for a sour cream glazed

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donut. And I think they thought that was like,

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oh my God, she's hungry. And I was like... She's,

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yeah. I could eat a sour cream glazed donut.

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And it took me all day to eat that damn donut,

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but it was great. But yeah, it's fitting it in

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where it works. And this brings up like two conversations.

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The one that we'll get to is like we tested a

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recipe and this is, you know, we want to tell

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you our thoughts on that recipe and why we think

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like just eat the damn pizza. But then the other

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big thing for me, because we had talked about

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this was. I feel like I'm getting into really

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slippery slope territory. And you're going to

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have good seasons and you're going to have bad

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seasons. And I think I've mentioned seasons on

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the podcast before where some months are going

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to be good for you and some years are going to

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be good for you and some years just aren't. And

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this feels like a year where I'm worried that

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I'm already not making the best choices, that

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I really... am craving sugar, that I want to

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be eating sugar, that I want to be out here eating

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stuff. And I said to Steph, like, oh, this isn't

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great because I really was at the grocery store,

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Shoppers Drug Mart, getting cold meds, and they

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had fudge for $3 .99 in a bottle. It was like,

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oh, I'm going to get a bottle. Like, who cares?

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Like, I'm going to have some of that. It'd be

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great. And I stopped myself and went, what are

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you doing? You don't need a box of fudge. In

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what world do you think that this is a good life

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choice? And I wasn't trying to be too hard on

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myself, but I was like, no, what are you doing?

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Like, what are you actually doing right now?

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You don't need to buy this. Why do you think

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you need this? And so I started to reflect a

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little and I was like, oh, no, I am making really

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bad choices lately. You know, I have friends

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over. Well, let's order. Let's just order some

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food. You must be hungry. Yeah, I'm hungry. Let's

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order. We can order out. Yeah, I could do that.

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And they made a comment like, oh, it must be

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so nice to be you because you can eat anything

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you want because you just you can't eat a lot

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of it. And I was like, yeah. And it was almost

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as if it was like, oh, you know, it was like

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that. That old Hannah was waiting, like peering

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in the windows like she's going to do it. And

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I said it and it was old Hannah kicking in the

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door like the Kool -Aid man being like, oh, yeah,

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here we go. Here we go. It was like the confirmation

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that that you were waiting for to be like, yes,

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I can. Yes, I can eat whatever I want. This is

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great. And it was. it kicked off like a, yeah,

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who cares? So I'll be very raw and honest on

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the podcast. It hasn't been a great couple of

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weeks. Like I've had burgers, like I had A &W

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and then I'm not even kidding. By the end of

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that week, we went to Harvey's and I ordered

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the kids meal. So at least I feel a little bit

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better about that. I had A &W, I had Harvey's.

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I have been trying to make my own stuff, but

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I've been really slacking at it. I have found

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myself keeping more snacks in the house. Like

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I had party mix in the house for some reason.

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I was like, well, it's on sale and I really like

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Humpty Dumpty party mix and it's mainly pretzels

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anyway. So I bought that and I was like, wow,

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you single -handedly will eat this whole bag

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of party mix because you live by yourself. And

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it was kind of hard this week when I woke up

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from this and went. Wait a sec. Like, what are

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you doing? Is all of this going to culminate

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in me gaining 100 pounds this week? No. No. I

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don't get off of this path. Like, what is happening?

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And I was justifying it by going, well, I'm running

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again. I'm running three days a week again. And

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I go to the gym on Sundays as well. And well,

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you know, during October, the move was so stressful

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that I wasn't really eating much anyway. And

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I can only have kids meal sizes. It's not that

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bad. I was kind of disgusted in myself, not in

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like a, you're a disgusting person type of way,

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but like a, why are you making these excuses?

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You work so hard to, to not get where you are,

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but to like train yourself that you don't need

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high sugar. You don't need high fat. You don't

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need these quick solutions, but what. what's

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going on? Like, why are you doing this? And it

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was really scary how easy it was to fall back

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into justifying bad habits that take notes a

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lot that bad that I'm too tired to make my own

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food. Yeah. And it's just a little, it's just

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a little bit. It's just a little bit. It's just

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a bit, but it's the add up of those things. Like

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you said, like doing it here and there is fine.

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Like you want to, you get your chicken nuggets

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on the weekend. That's cool. You do your hamburger

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here. That's cool. But it's when it becomes.

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One after another, after another, after another.

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Yeah. And so it creeps up. And that's when I

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had to stop myself and go, oh, and some of the

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bad habits were, you know, oh, I'm going to Starbucks

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for my I usually get a tea in the morning because

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I'm trying to not have as much caffeine. So I

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usually go and get the chamomile mint tea. If

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you know, it's like so good. So I usually go

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get my tea and I found myself and this was a

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bad habit from before. Oh, well, I can't just

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get a tea. Like I can't while I'm here for a

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tea. So I'm going to get the cake pop or I'm

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going to like in that the sugar. I want sugar

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back into my life. And I regret it so much because

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kicking sugar was one of the best things I ever

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did for myself. The energy levels were great.

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My health was great. My physical health was great.

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My skin looked amazing. And I do know I was very

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rigid with it. And I do know pneumonia really

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changed my eating habits. And the road trip to

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Nova Scotia as well. Like that's when I really

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noticed I was eating a lot more sugar. And if

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there's one thing I'm going to fix, it's the

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sugar. I'm really mad I let the sugar back in

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because I'll go through the Starbucks drive -thru

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and go, well, I'm going to get a cake pop too.

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Like I should get a cake pop. I can't just get

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tea. Or, you know, it's okay to have the Turkey

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Sage Danish every single morning, Hannah. Like

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it's only X amount of calories. Just do it. Yeah,

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it really scared me how easy it was for me to

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justify that I was tired. Totally. Oh, I was

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sick. You know, oh, I'm getting the flu. I'm

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in a rush. I don't have time. Yeah. That was

00:15:20.970 --> 00:15:22.769
a funny one. Oh, you know, I think I have the

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flu. I should go get takeout. Whatever you want.

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You don't feel good. And it's like, what in the

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actual fuck, Hannah? Your mind is just looking

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for anything to somewhat justify the choice that

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you're making. Yeah. Whether it makes sense or

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not, if you can somehow tie it in your brain

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to justifying it, you will jump on that for sure.

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Now, have I gained weight? No. However, that's

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not a brag. That's not me being like, well, I

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got to follow consequences. There are consequences.

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My potential arthritis is way worse. a lot of

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joint pains. I do feel very run down. I do feel

00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.000
like I have the flu, like I have the like there

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are other symptoms than just weight gain that

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come back from falling off the wagon and from

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ingesting way too much sugar and shit in your

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diet. Right. So and then it becomes harder to

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get back on track. Yes. Your body is now like,

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no, I don't want it. Like it's like it's like

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the broccoli, but I don't want the vegetables.

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So now I'm dealing with like. fighting my own

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like internal thoughts about you know no you

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don't want that you know like oh you need so

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it's not great and also just because I didn't

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gain weight now doesn't mean it wasn't gearing

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up to be that like it doesn't mean that like

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our bodies are they gain weight in different

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ways and different things happen so yeah it's

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not great that this happened um and yeah it makes

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me really mad because yeah Almost like it was

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out of your control to an extent. It's like falling

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off the wagon. Getting back on is hard. Yeah,

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because I was like, you did all this work. And

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it's going to take time to get back there because

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now my body's like, no, I don't want to do that.

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Right. Okay, well, tough shit. You made me do

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it before and now you're giving me the good stuff

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back. Don't make me go back there. Don't make

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me do it. Don't make me do it, right? Like, shit.

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So, yeah, it's it's not spectacular, but I'm

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honest and open with people. It happens. And

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I know that you'll see a lot of stories being

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like, oh, well, it happened because there was

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high stress in my life or someone passed away

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or I lost my job. Like, yes, those things are.

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Yes. Triggering, but definitely happen. Like

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I. I can also just just be. It can just be the

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cravings coming back and it can just be the old

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habits coming back. There are 100 % life triggers

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make a big difference for sure. But it's just

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part of the whole journey of dealing with the

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cravings, dealing with the why, dealing with

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the food addictions. For me, like, yeah, stress

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is a big thing. But for me, I know I've always

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been a Bordemeter. Always. And so I got really

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good at distracting myself with, okay, go for

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a walk, do a workout, do something else. But

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then you drop the ball on the workouts, you get

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tired, you're super swamped at work, you're super

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swamped at life. And that stuff starts to fall

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off. And then the boredom starts to creep in.

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And then the snacks start to creep in. So it

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doesn't have... It can be like you said, exactly

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that. You'll see people that, you know, went

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through those challenging times and went through

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those hard things in their life and are having

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something go wrong. Oh, yeah. But it can also

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just be something that happens and just part

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of the normal process. And it's being able to

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identify it early on, being able to admit it

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like you're putting yourself out there and saying

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this is the reality of it. But that's the thing,

00:19:02.619 --> 00:19:04.940
right? Being able to own it, being able to be

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accountable and then. saying I'm going to do

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something about it versus sitting there being

00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.940
like oh it's fine it'll go away it's just temporary

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let it go and I know like I know I had talked

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about ozempic but my doctor and I we have not

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started it yet just because I did manage to lose

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weight on my own I lost the the gain on my own

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and I got back into running so the big thing

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for us was it was for blood sugar regulation

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which you know worked itself out so it's still

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in the fridge it's still there and I don't know

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if I would consider this food noise necessarily.

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So yes, if this got bad and I can't get on top

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of this, I would go to him and say, listen, I

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am, I am eating shit again. And I don't know

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why, and this is getting, but it was less like

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food noise and more convenience, laziness. Yeah.

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Like food noise for me is like, eat, keep eating.

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You're full. Yes. Like eat, eat, eat. You can,

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you can fit more. You can fit more. You can have

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more, have more, have more. And that wasn't the

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case because I was buying this food and I wasn't

00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:08.799
even eating majority of it. And I was like, you're

00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:12.160
just buying this for fucking routine. It's just

00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.359
a habit. Yeah, you don't need. You don't even

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really necessarily sometimes want it. And you

00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:20.329
know you're fine without it. but it's just a

00:20:20.329 --> 00:20:23.130
habit of having it in the house or on hand. I

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do that too. And I go grocery shopping. If I'm,

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if I have the girls with me and I'm distracted

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or I'm in a rush and I'm not being cognizant

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about what I'm doing, I just, I'll, I'll grab

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things. And it's just that habit of always previously

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having that in the house. And then I get home

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and I put groceries away and I'm like, did I

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buy this? Like, did I, did I actually grab that?

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Okay. And that happens, but I don't miss it if

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it's yeah. But when it's not there, I don't miss

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it. No. But then it's there and then it's like,

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well, shit, now I feel like I have to eat it

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because it's there. Yeah. Because I bought it

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and, you know, can't go to waste. Don't waste

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it. Yeah. Doing my best to, I am going to be

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a creature of habit. I like quick things. I like

00:21:02.529 --> 00:21:06.309
quick, easy things. So I'm just trying to reimagine

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what that looks like in a healthy environment.

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So one thing that's really great is Longo's,

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Longi's, my favorite little grocery store. They

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now make fresh rolls. And so I've been keeping

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those in the fridge because it's the rice paper

00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:21.059
wrap. So low carb and it's filled with a ton

00:21:21.059 --> 00:21:23.279
of fresh vegetables, avocado and then a little

00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.000
peanut dipping sauce. And the peanut dipping

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sauce is like a teaspoon. It's in one of these

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tiny little itty bitty cups. So I don't even

00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.299
feel bad about it. And you get three in a pack.

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Keeping that. So like, are you, is it time for

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dinner? But you didn't eat. Now you're kind of

00:21:37.339 --> 00:21:39.200
hungry, but dinner's going to be an hour. Like,

00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:42.339
yeah. of one of these little rolls. I'm getting

00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:45.039
mini mozzarella. Trader Joe's sells it for our

00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.519
American listeners, but so does Longo's. It's

00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.599
a little pack of three mozzarella balls in a,

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and they're all individually packaged. I keep

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that in the fridge. Cause like that is so milk

00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:56.859
fat, really good, quite filling, pop it in and

00:21:56.859 --> 00:22:00.180
away you go. So I'm trying to just remind myself

00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:02.619
that there's quick grab and go things that are

00:22:02.619 --> 00:22:05.930
not, you know, like that are there. There are

00:22:05.930 --> 00:22:08.329
good options out there. There are. It is hard,

00:22:08.509 --> 00:22:12.470
though. I get it. And the other thing I think

00:22:12.470 --> 00:22:14.730
you all need to know is you're going to fall

00:22:14.730 --> 00:22:17.809
off. You're going to. It's going to happen. Yeah.

00:22:17.890 --> 00:22:20.089
And I think the big thing is, and you see this

00:22:20.089 --> 00:22:24.369
with a lot of really good fitness and health

00:22:24.369 --> 00:22:27.710
influencers out there, and it's something that

00:22:27.710 --> 00:22:32.390
I used to be really bad at, is not beating yourself

00:22:32.390 --> 00:22:36.190
up. when it happens and it's realizing that it's

00:22:36.190 --> 00:22:39.349
one thing or it's one day or it's, it's one week,

00:22:39.410 --> 00:22:42.390
whatever it may be, but it's not going to ruin

00:22:42.390 --> 00:22:45.549
everything and you can get back on track. And

00:22:45.549 --> 00:22:48.130
just like, like my friend Denise, who's going

00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:49.890
to listen to this always says, bless and release,

00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:53.710
move on. It is what it is, right? It is what

00:22:53.710 --> 00:22:58.009
it is. Bless and release, move on. Just, it is

00:22:58.009 --> 00:22:59.829
what, like you can't change that it happened.

00:22:59.910 --> 00:23:03.619
So the whole wallowing about it. Not going to

00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:05.759
help the whole mentality of, well, I already

00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.000
screwed it up. I might as well keep going. No,

00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:11.599
this is the big thing. Like for your own mental

00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.140
health and journey, you have to learn to let

00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:19.220
yourself go. Like you have to say it's, it is

00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:22.480
fine, Hannah. You're not. A failure because like

00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.680
it's very easy to fall into this trap of you

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:28.039
fat fucking failure. Like what is the matter

00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:29.759
with you? You're going to get fat again. You

00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:32.319
are getting fat again. Like if I were to gain

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.660
weight after doing this, it would absolutely

00:23:34.660 --> 00:23:37.140
be like, wow, good for you. Like now you're like,

00:23:37.140 --> 00:23:38.980
look at you just getting fat again. Like, yeah,

00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:42.200
screw it up. I have a horrible negative critic

00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.059
because I had such lows while being overweight.

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And I work in therapy because I love my therapist.

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But this is why we keep thought records because

00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.259
she'll tell me like, well, let's, you know, why?

00:23:54.420 --> 00:23:55.880
Why did you go to the drive -thru? Or why did

00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.200
you say? And I'll write it down because in the

00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.380
light of day, when I read it again, I go, oh,

00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.519
fuck you. Like, what? No, that like thought down

00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:05.039
that like, well, I'm going to get fat again and

00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:06.720
I've ruined everything I've done with surgery

00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:09.140
and I'll just be fat forever. And then we'll

00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:11.400
read it. together and I'll be like, well, that's

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.400
no, that's absolutely not true. Right. In that

00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.180
moment, that critic is so loud that you're like,

00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:19.400
fine, I'll routine and I'll just, who cares?

00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:21.420
And it's a hundred percent the truth in that

00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:24.259
moment. Yes. In that moment. Yeah. You believe

00:24:24.259 --> 00:24:26.599
that thoughts are not actions. Thoughts are not

00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.720
truth. Your brain, your former fat self, your

00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.279
anxiety, whatever it is you have really wants

00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:36.200
you to believe it's true. It's not. And some

00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.819
pounds and like, whether it's five or 50. You

00:24:39.819 --> 00:24:41.799
absolutely can lose that because you did do it.

00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:45.220
Surgery was cool. Surgery in no way is the only

00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:47.660
reason that you lost weight. So please remember,

00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.779
it's that you finally started walking for the

00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:52.119
first time. You started counting calories for

00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.460
the first time in a healthy way. Right. You paid

00:24:54.460 --> 00:24:57.720
attention to what protein is. You cut down on

00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.319
your sugar. You didn't put butter in things.

00:25:00.539 --> 00:25:03.839
You're mindful about everything. Yes. And remember,

00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:08.619
you can do that again. You absolutely can. So

00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:11.619
just be kind to yourself. And also, if you have

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:13.720
to go to your doctor and be like, oh, I need

00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.180
help. I've gained 50. I've managed to get 20

00:25:16.180 --> 00:25:19.059
off. But like, boy, this is tough. OK, talk about

00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:22.759
some GLP -1s or maybe going into a weight loss

00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:24.920
clinic, maybe going back to the bariatric clinic

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.099
and doing their medical versus their surgical

00:25:27.099 --> 00:25:31.759
program. Like there are you can do this. I felt

00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.420
like shit. And I'm glad I was able to talk about

00:25:34.420 --> 00:25:37.250
it because I definitely had that. dark rain cloud

00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.190
telling me like, you've ruined everything you've

00:25:39.190 --> 00:25:41.309
done and you're going to gain all this weight

00:25:41.309 --> 00:25:43.730
back. And like, boy, you spiral quick. And a

00:25:43.730 --> 00:25:46.410
large part of what happened was the shitty food

00:25:46.410 --> 00:25:49.029
I was putting in my body. Right. It also affects

00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:50.869
your hormones. It affects your mental health.

00:25:50.930 --> 00:25:53.690
When you eat like shit, you feel like shit. Yes.

00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:57.809
And I'm not one of those pseudoscience, you know.

00:25:57.869 --> 00:26:00.269
No, but it impacts your body and your hormones.

00:26:00.829 --> 00:26:02.750
And then you feel like crap. Then you crash.

00:26:03.170 --> 00:26:06.069
Then you feel shitty. Then you start to wallow.

00:26:06.089 --> 00:26:08.809
Then you're like, Oh my God. Like when you eat

00:26:08.809 --> 00:26:10.910
healthy food, you feel good. It fuels your body

00:26:10.910 --> 00:26:13.250
with positive things. Yeah. Like I'm not a hippie,

00:26:13.250 --> 00:26:15.529
dippy, whatever you want to call it, but it's

00:26:15.529 --> 00:26:17.130
true. No offense if you are. We're not saying

00:26:17.130 --> 00:26:19.069
that. But you eat shit. You feel like shit. Like

00:26:19.069 --> 00:26:20.109
how many times do you eat shit? And then you

00:26:20.109 --> 00:26:22.190
sit there going, Oh my God, why did I do that?

00:26:22.349 --> 00:26:25.569
Why did I eat this? I was eating this. Yeah.

00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:27.769
You get the meat sweats. You get bloated. You

00:26:27.769 --> 00:26:31.789
feel sluggish. The meat sweats. The meat sweats.

00:26:32.069 --> 00:26:33.890
The meat sweats are the worst. But like that's.

00:26:34.190 --> 00:26:36.170
That's a lot of what sugar does to your body.

00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:37.750
And I know there's going to be people listening

00:26:37.750 --> 00:26:39.650
being like, oh, shut up. That's not true. It

00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:42.509
is. As someone who kicked sugar for over three

00:26:42.509 --> 00:26:45.430
years and didn't get rid of it, but really reduced

00:26:45.430 --> 00:26:48.769
it. Wow. Sugar plays such a bigger part in your

00:26:48.769 --> 00:26:50.990
body than you realize. And there's a reason why.

00:26:51.250 --> 00:26:53.369
Sure. There's somebody listening today who's

00:26:53.369 --> 00:26:55.630
like, well, I can eat sugar and I feel fine after.

00:26:55.730 --> 00:26:58.950
I can eat 25 grams of sugar from a candy and

00:26:58.950 --> 00:27:01.910
feel fine. Well, aren't you special? It doesn't

00:27:01.910 --> 00:27:04.569
happen overnight, guys. Like, it fully adds up.

00:27:04.569 --> 00:27:06.890
And that's why I say pneumonia was in January.

00:27:06.890 --> 00:27:09.589
My road trip was in June. And I'm paying the

00:27:09.589 --> 00:27:11.789
price for the decisions I made then, right? Like,

00:27:11.829 --> 00:27:14.769
I really started going off the rails, not watching

00:27:14.769 --> 00:27:16.750
sugar. The road trip, we had chocolate bars and

00:27:16.750 --> 00:27:19.089
stuff because we're on the road. And I realized,

00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:22.750
like, okay, sugar's really, it plays a part in

00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:25.529
your hormones, your brain function. Like, there's

00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:27.730
a reason they say 10 grams of sugar or less per

00:27:27.730 --> 00:27:31.289
serving. encourage you out of everything whether

00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:34.329
it's calories fat sugar to watch the sugar sugar

00:27:34.329 --> 00:27:39.990
the sugar has just it impacts so much yeah it

00:27:39.990 --> 00:27:41.849
impacts so many things it's hard to kick once

00:27:41.849 --> 00:27:43.950
you bring it back in it's one of i would say

00:27:43.950 --> 00:27:46.750
it's one of the hardest things it is to to kick

00:27:46.750 --> 00:27:49.970
out because it is whether people agree with this

00:27:49.970 --> 00:27:52.349
or not it's addictive sugar's addictive I'm sorry,

00:27:52.450 --> 00:27:55.769
it's addictive. And you feed off of it and you

00:27:55.769 --> 00:27:58.369
crash when you don't have it and you feel like

00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:01.130
crap and you possibly get the headaches. And

00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:04.670
it's just not a fun one to pick out. Horrible

00:28:04.670 --> 00:28:07.690
blood sugar regulation issues. And your body

00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:10.390
panics. Yeah. So I'm not saying cut it out altogether.

00:28:11.219 --> 00:28:14.779
But most of us are ingesting far more sugar than

00:28:14.779 --> 00:28:17.539
we need to be. And it impacts, yeah, it impacts

00:28:17.539 --> 00:28:19.420
your hormones. It impacts your skin. It impacts

00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:21.619
your blood sugar. It impact, like it just impacts

00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:23.500
everything. The ups and the downs and the crashes

00:28:23.500 --> 00:28:26.880
and the addiction. And yeah, I still eat sugar

00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:31.240
for sure. But I aim for 10 grams. Yeah. I pay

00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.700
far more attention to the sugar than I used to.

00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.440
Yeah, I had a friend reach out who said, hey,

00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.859
my, you know, my cousins or so -and -so, they're

00:28:39.859 --> 00:28:42.559
doing the Rio Thompson fundraiser. So for those

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.180
who don't know, Rio Thompson makes that like

00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:47.920
mint smoothie bar that's like at Christmas, usually

00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.519
everybody gets it. It's like a brick. It's cute.

00:28:50.619 --> 00:28:52.640
It's delicious. It's, I don't know, the size

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.940
of like two large truffles shoved together. And

00:28:54.940 --> 00:28:56.859
she was like, would you be able to eat this?

00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.319
And for a minute, I'm not even kidding. For a

00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.019
minute, I was like, you know what? Damn straight,

00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.670
I can. It just happened. The better voice in

00:29:04.670 --> 00:29:06.289
me said, well, just look up the macros first

00:29:06.289 --> 00:29:08.529
before you say, sure, down for one, because who

00:29:08.529 --> 00:29:10.869
knows? So I said, I'm going to look it up. I

00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:13.089
said, you know what? It's probably not going

00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:16.509
to work for me, but I'll look it up. So I looked

00:29:16.509 --> 00:29:19.509
it up and sure enough, it's got 25 grams of sugar

00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:22.809
per square. And I went, oh, no, no, absolutely

00:29:22.809 --> 00:29:26.109
not. If it was maybe 15, maybe I would. Maybe.

00:29:26.369 --> 00:29:29.710
But then also as a treat. I don't need this,

00:29:29.789 --> 00:29:34.130
though. 25 is a lot. It's a lot. So I said, oh,

00:29:34.170 --> 00:29:36.390
you know what? No. And I don't want it in the

00:29:36.390 --> 00:29:38.730
house for that exact reason. Because just because

00:29:38.730 --> 00:29:41.170
I can eat it doesn't mean I should be eating

00:29:41.170 --> 00:29:43.650
it. If I really want candy or chocolate over

00:29:43.650 --> 00:29:45.829
the holidays, there are other options. There

00:29:45.829 --> 00:29:48.950
are those, you know, the grocery store near me

00:29:48.950 --> 00:29:52.329
sells the low sugar peanut butter cup things

00:29:52.329 --> 00:29:54.789
that I. Yeah, those are so good. Like they all

00:29:54.789 --> 00:29:56.390
have different flavors and stuff. So there's

00:29:56.390 --> 00:29:58.829
that. There's other things you could buy. And

00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:01.720
then it goes back to what we said. If I have

00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.859
other options and I don't want those other options,

00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:06.079
then was I really hungry, right? What's the saying?

00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.799
Are you hungry? Then go have an apple. We do

00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.380
the apple test in our house. That's our go -to

00:30:12.380 --> 00:30:15.099
here. If the girls have eaten and we've had dinner

00:30:15.099 --> 00:30:18.539
or whatever and they're hungry, then we always

00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:20.240
do the apple test. And I'll say to them, go have

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.539
an apple. And they're like, oh, I don't want

00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:23.700
an apple. Well, then you're probably not hungry.

00:30:24.059 --> 00:30:26.559
Exactly. I said, go drink some water. And I'll

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.519
often say to them now too, are you bored right

00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.559
now? I said, aside from being hungry, are you

00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.500
bored? Yeah. I said, okay, then that's probably

00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:37.720
also you're not hungry. And so we always do the

00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.099
apple and the board test first. Yep. Because

00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:44.299
I'm a nesting eater. So when I play video games,

00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:46.839
I used to like, I'd sit down to play video games

00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.299
for hours and I'd have like dinner and snacks

00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:52.519
and stuff. with food because I'd be playing for

00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.019
hours. So I'm catching that habit as well, where

00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:57.319
I'm like, oh, I associate video games with snacking

00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:01.200
and trying to stop it. So, okay. One thing we

00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.579
did this week that we want to talk about is we

00:31:04.579 --> 00:31:10.440
tried the viral recipe, the pizza recipe, which

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.230
it was a thing. So for those... Those who haven't

00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:18.150
seen it, it's that recipe where she mixes cottage

00:31:18.150 --> 00:31:20.170
cheese with a little bit of flour and oregano,

00:31:20.190 --> 00:31:22.410
puts it in her air fryer, takes it out, puts

00:31:22.410 --> 00:31:25.150
mozzarella, pizza sauce and pepperoni on it,

00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:27.250
bakes it again. And then it looks like a puffed

00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:32.250
up personal sized pizza. It's that simple. So

00:31:32.250 --> 00:31:34.470
Steph and I set out to make the recipe. The recipe

00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:38.130
is cottage cheese, flour, baking powder, oregano,

00:31:38.329 --> 00:31:42.089
salt, pepper. And don't blend it. So this was

00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:44.950
a contentious point for me. You don't blend it.

00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:48.309
And I was like, okay. You just fold it all together,

00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:50.769
put it on parchment, put it in the air fryer.

00:31:51.369 --> 00:31:53.670
I can't remember how long it was to cook. It

00:31:53.670 --> 00:31:56.369
was like 350 for like eight minutes or something.

00:31:56.490 --> 00:31:59.180
Which was completely wrong. Total bullshit. Total

00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:02.460
horseshit. So we cook that. You take it out.

00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:04.900
You put pizza sauce, mozzarella, pepperoni. Whatever

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:06.960
toppings. Yeah, whatever toppings you want. We

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.920
just did cheese stew. Pop it back in and pull

00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.460
it out. Does it poof up? Yes, absolutely. Did

00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:16.119
it look fantastic? Yes. Absolutely. This was

00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.559
like... Looked so good. I keep forgetting to

00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.279
post my... I'll make my reel about it. I keep

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.839
forgetting. It looked phenomenal. I was so excited.

00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:25.500
It was, I would dare say, the pinnacle of what

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:28.480
an Instagram food dish should look like. It was

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.579
the traditional, whoa, looks so good. And that

00:32:31.579 --> 00:32:34.640
should have been indication number one that this

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:40.019
probably wasn't the best. So we made it and Steph

00:32:40.019 --> 00:32:44.180
made it first and then I made it after. It was

00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:46.799
rough, guys. It was rough. I made, I had to make

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.930
two versions. Because the first one, so I did,

00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:51.890
I mixed it together. Like I said, I put it on

00:32:51.890 --> 00:32:53.470
the parchment. I put it in the air fryer, followed

00:32:53.470 --> 00:32:55.650
the instructions. Exactly. Pulled it out to put

00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:57.549
the toppings on. It looked phenomenal. Looked

00:32:57.549 --> 00:33:00.210
fantastic. Was brown, looked crispy, looked great.

00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:02.509
Put my toppings on, popped her back in the air

00:33:02.509 --> 00:33:04.190
fryer, brought it out. Like you said, looked

00:33:04.190 --> 00:33:07.029
so, I was so excited. It looked so phenomenal.

00:33:07.710 --> 00:33:12.170
Yep. Went to take it out of the air fryer. Like

00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:16.609
not happening. It was so. soggy on the bottom

00:33:16.609 --> 00:33:20.450
and inside like it that shit fell apart so fast

00:33:20.450 --> 00:33:23.190
I lifted the parchment out of the air fryer couldn't

00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:25.490
could barely get it off the parchment cut it

00:33:25.490 --> 00:33:27.789
went to like pick a piece up it was like it was

00:33:27.789 --> 00:33:30.910
not happening so I popped that sucker back in

00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:33.309
the air fryer like three more times and it still

00:33:33.309 --> 00:33:35.650
wouldn't really get where it needed to get it

00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:38.329
got enough that like my oldest like Haley ate

00:33:38.329 --> 00:33:40.390
it and really liked it which shocked me but at

00:33:40.390 --> 00:33:42.369
least it didn't go to waste so then I said okay

00:33:42.369 --> 00:33:44.210
I'm gonna make another one and I'm gonna do the

00:33:44.210 --> 00:33:47.990
initial part for higher temperature and longer

00:33:47.990 --> 00:33:53.549
yes it was better it was better um and i put

00:33:53.549 --> 00:33:58.250
the toppings on whatever but it just i don't

00:33:58.250 --> 00:34:02.029
know the the crust i don't even want to call

00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:06.349
it a crust the base was just very like eggy in

00:34:06.349 --> 00:34:10.710
texture and and squishy it didn't have a pizza

00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:16.010
crust texture to it the flavor was okay um but

00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:18.150
by the end of the day for what it costs to make

00:34:18.150 --> 00:34:21.389
it and the letdown of it this is what we're saying

00:34:21.389 --> 00:34:25.269
just build your day around real pizza have one

00:34:25.269 --> 00:34:27.969
or two pieces whatever you're however you're

00:34:27.969 --> 00:34:29.510
eating if you're bariatric not whatever it may

00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:32.510
be but build your day for the real pizza just

00:34:32.510 --> 00:34:36.190
eat the damn pizza because between the cost of

00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:39.679
this one and it just Like we said, trying to

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.900
find, always find a replacement or a swap out.

00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:44.860
And then you don't hit that craving or you don't

00:34:44.860 --> 00:34:46.780
fill that need. Then you're just going to eat

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:48.480
something else and something else. And you're

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.199
just going to end up overeating or binging because

00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.679
you're not fulfilling that need. Whereas sometimes

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.840
it's better to just give in and say, okay, I'm

00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.659
going to have pizza today, but that I'm going

00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:01.960
to make sure the rest of my day lines up to fit

00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.039
that into my macros, fit that into my calories,

00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.039
be responsible the rest of the day and eat the

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.340
piece of damn pizza. Yeah. And be fine. Yes.

00:35:10.420 --> 00:35:13.099
Yeah. And I had, so I had the exact same frigging

00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:16.599
experience. Yeah. Where I was like, oh, okay.

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.920
This is not great. Like, texture's a big thing

00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.260
for me. And I was real. Yeah, me too. About this.

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.699
So, yeah. It was like, I don't even know how

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:29.099
to, like, spongy. Would you say, like, eggy,

00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.900
spongy? It was, I don't even know how to describe

00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:36.079
it. It was. Okay, so this is my problem with

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.300
stuff that people put out there. The eggy texture

00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:40.460
is really driving me nuts. There was no egg in

00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:42.719
this though, so I don't understand. It was eggy.

00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:44.960
But the fact that you didn't blend the cottage

00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.219
cheese is what I think made this really terrible

00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:49.320
because the cottage cheese has nothing to bind

00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.099
together. Cottage cheese is going to continue

00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:53.440
to be curds. That's what it is. It is curds and

00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.159
whey. Like, hello, Little Miss Muffet. So it

00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.940
continued to stay curds and whey with some flour

00:35:58.940 --> 00:36:01.539
thrown in and some baking powder. So it had a

00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:03.519
weird texture and taste. I don't think it was

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.219
enough time to cook the flour either. So I had

00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:07.380
a little bit of an issue with that too. I would

00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:10.019
personally blend that for two seconds going forward,

00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:12.909
see if it makes a difference. But then also it

00:36:12.909 --> 00:36:14.929
just wasn't good. Like it looked good, but it

00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:17.110
wasn't good. That does not satisfy the need for

00:36:17.110 --> 00:36:20.070
a pizza. That does not satisfy. I kept saying

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:21.929
to Steph, I would rather just make an English

00:36:21.929 --> 00:36:24.809
muffin pizza or a non -bread pizza or just some

00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:27.690
other little tiny pizza or sweet Jesus, just

00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:30.210
have a pizza. Like just go flat. I'd rather just

00:36:30.210 --> 00:36:32.250
have my family order pizza and me eat a piece

00:36:32.250 --> 00:36:34.369
of that than go through the trouble of making

00:36:34.369 --> 00:36:36.409
this because it's not, I'm still going to sit

00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:39.460
there mad that I'm eating this. trying to tell

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:42.239
myself it's as good as pizza. When I see them

00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:43.440
eating pizza, and then you know what I'm probably

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.320
going to end up doing? I'm going to end up having

00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.559
a piece of the real pizza anyway, on top of the

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.199
shit that I made. So I might as well have just

00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.360
had the pizza. I might as well have just had

00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.000
it and had it in moderation. And so this, I know

00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.579
we're going over this week a little bit, but

00:36:58.579 --> 00:37:01.820
this was my big argument to you was, do we feel

00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:06.559
that potentially This is causing more harm. Yes.

00:37:06.619 --> 00:37:09.719
That's good. Yes. I wonder if like what it's

00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.900
going to end up happening is you're going to

00:37:11.900 --> 00:37:14.679
be very disappointed with this. Yep. To the point

00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.039
where you're like, OK, well, now I'm going to

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.320
go get a whole pizza or now I'm totally going

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.300
to, you know, do up, up, up, up. And the other

00:37:21.300 --> 00:37:24.559
thing is like these are not these are not that

00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.800
healthy. Like they're not bad, but they're not

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.860
like, you know, if the macros were insane on

00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:33.300
it, I would suck it up and eat it. And have it

00:37:33.300 --> 00:37:35.599
because it wasn't for me, at least. I didn't

00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.739
think it was gross. I didn't think it was bad.

00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:39.780
I just didn't think it was great. And it didn't

00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:43.260
fill the pizza void for me. But if the macros

00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:46.260
were phenomenal and I had that stuff lying around

00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:49.000
anyway, sure, I'd probably make it as an option

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.900
once in a while. But it's not. It wasn't. No.

00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:56.320
So then my kind of concern was, are people going

00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:00.179
to... We tend to binge eat. We're obese. We do

00:38:00.179 --> 00:38:02.150
that. We do. People are going to be like, well,

00:38:02.210 --> 00:38:05.010
this is better for me than pizza. So I can eat

00:38:05.010 --> 00:38:08.610
this every single day of the week. And that's

00:38:08.610 --> 00:38:12.409
where I'm like, oh, no. Totally. It's doing way

00:38:12.409 --> 00:38:16.650
more harm than good. Yeah. It's also for me.

00:38:17.590 --> 00:38:21.510
These are usually more expensive than other alternatives

00:38:21.510 --> 00:38:24.469
out there. So that adds up. Then you're spending

00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:26.329
money on something that you don't even like.

00:38:26.469 --> 00:38:30.019
And that tastes like shit. then half the time

00:38:30.019 --> 00:38:31.119
you're not going to make it again. You're going

00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.059
to waste what you spent all that money on. And

00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:38.300
for me, it's also the stress of trying to figure

00:38:38.300 --> 00:38:40.380
out an alternative, trying to make something

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:43.920
work that's going to fill that void and going

00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.239
through all of that hassle, which to me makes

00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:52.050
it a chore, which then takes the... takes the

00:38:52.050 --> 00:38:53.989
fun out of it, but also makes it something that

00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:56.849
I'm less likely, less likely to stick with because

00:38:56.849 --> 00:38:58.630
then it's stressing me out. It's become a chore

00:38:58.630 --> 00:39:01.670
and it sets me back into that whole diet mindset.

00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:05.070
And it's that whole mindset of, well, you, you

00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:06.989
have to have this because you can't have that.

00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:10.210
And if you tell somebody like us that you can't

00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:13.550
have something, you better bet your ass we're

00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:17.389
going to go out and have it times five. Yeah.

00:39:17.449 --> 00:39:20.500
Right. And so that's my concern is like, they're

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:22.719
making you I don't know I think that they're

00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:24.780
also a slippery slope where it's like I think

00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:27.000
it would be better if you just indulged that

00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:31.039
need to have something better to just be like

00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.219
okay I'm going to um just have a slice of pizza

00:39:35.219 --> 00:39:36.820
and I'm going to know in my mind that this is

00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:38.920
a treat that I don't want to overdo it and do

00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.070
it a lot And I'm going to just scratch that itch

00:39:42.070 --> 00:39:43.929
because you're trying to fill it with a bunch

00:39:43.929 --> 00:39:45.389
of stuff where you're going to be like, oh, cool.

00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:46.710
I'm going to just have the cottage cheese thing

00:39:46.710 --> 00:39:49.309
every single day. No, it would have been better

00:39:49.309 --> 00:39:51.510
for you just to have a slice of pizza, be done

00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:53.329
with it, move on. Because I will say that is

00:39:53.329 --> 00:39:55.349
at least the one nice thing that I've noticed

00:39:55.349 --> 00:39:58.929
is it is really easy for me to go, I'm done.

00:39:59.030 --> 00:40:01.610
I had what I needed to have and I'm good. If

00:40:01.610 --> 00:40:03.909
I'm craving a cinnamon roll, I can go have a

00:40:03.909 --> 00:40:06.130
cinnamon roll and then not need one for a month

00:40:06.130 --> 00:40:07.909
and be like. That's just it, right? When I was

00:40:07.909 --> 00:40:09.670
at Tim Hortons with the girls, I hadn't had a

00:40:09.670 --> 00:40:12.969
donut and I couldn't tell you how long. And all

00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:14.789
I wanted in that moment was the Boston cream

00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:18.010
donut. Yes. And if I wouldn't have had it and

00:40:18.010 --> 00:40:20.429
I would have got them their treat, watched them

00:40:20.429 --> 00:40:22.269
eat it, I would have driven home, thought about

00:40:22.269 --> 00:40:24.389
the donut the whole way home. And then all day

00:40:24.389 --> 00:40:27.809
I would have still had that need to fill that

00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:29.530
donut want. And then I would have had Halloween

00:40:29.530 --> 00:40:31.369
candy. And then I would have had a couple of

00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:32.869
chips. And then I would have had this because

00:40:32.869 --> 00:40:35.409
nothing would have hit the spot that the donut

00:40:35.409 --> 00:40:37.789
would have hit. And instead of the 220 calories

00:40:37.789 --> 00:40:40.869
from the donut, I would have had 500 calories

00:40:40.869 --> 00:40:43.730
of shit that I was picking on throughout the

00:40:43.730 --> 00:40:46.969
day. So have the donut. And like you said, have

00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:49.929
I wanted a donut since then? No, I had my donut.

00:40:50.150 --> 00:40:51.989
I'm cool. Maybe in a month from now, I'm going

00:40:51.989 --> 00:40:53.230
to be like, oh, you know what? Remember when

00:40:53.230 --> 00:40:56.449
I had that donut? But okay, then have a donut.

00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:59.730
We'll go to... We'll go to Fluffy Glade. Fluffy,

00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:02.369
right. Yeah, we'll go to those donuts that are

00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:06.030
100 calories and we'll go cool. So, yeah, there's

00:41:06.030 --> 00:41:07.630
a part of me that just kind of wants to scream

00:41:07.630 --> 00:41:10.690
a little bit like, I don't know if these are

00:41:10.690 --> 00:41:13.230
helping. I think they might just be fueling your

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:18.420
desire to have pizza. In a way that maybe isn't

00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:19.940
helping you because it's never going to scratch

00:41:19.940 --> 00:41:22.760
an itch. It's never going to make you go, yeah,

00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.619
this is awesome. And it comes back to like everything

00:41:26.619 --> 00:41:29.840
in moderation that this is not just bariatric

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.539
wise, but trying to be healthier or lose weight

00:41:32.539 --> 00:41:34.940
or make better choices. It comes down to all

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:37.699
things in moderation and working in things into

00:41:37.699 --> 00:41:40.619
a healthy lifestyle. I've said from the beginning,

00:41:40.739 --> 00:41:43.280
having the surgery, I don't want this to be a

00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.820
diet. I don't want it to be something that I

00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:48.989
have to work. my life around. I want to work

00:41:48.989 --> 00:41:51.769
it into my life and I want it to teach me how

00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:54.369
to make better choices. I want it to teach me

00:41:54.369 --> 00:41:56.590
to be more cognizant of what I'm putting in my

00:41:56.590 --> 00:41:58.989
body. I want it to teach me how to make more

00:41:58.989 --> 00:42:03.630
sustainable choices and have a healthier lifestyle

00:42:03.630 --> 00:42:06.610
overall. I don't want it to be something that

00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:08.710
is a negative. I don't want it to be something

00:42:08.710 --> 00:42:10.949
that holds me back. So if I'm going to have a

00:42:10.949 --> 00:42:13.159
donut once a month. Screw it. I'm going to have

00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:14.840
a donut once a month. But like I said, I'm going

00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:16.760
to track it. I'm going to work it into my day.

00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.420
I'm going to work it into my macros and my calories.

00:42:19.579 --> 00:42:21.239
And if that means I can't have something else

00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.480
that day, then that's the trade off. But I'm

00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.139
not going to sit there and tell myself you had

00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:26.659
bariatric surgery. You can never eat a donut.

00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:29.059
I'm not going to do it. And there's people out

00:42:29.059 --> 00:42:30.780
there who will. And that's cool if that works

00:42:30.780 --> 00:42:33.360
for you. But that's not going to work for me

00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.920
for being successful long term. Sure, there's

00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.380
going to be things I swap out and there's going

00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:41.969
to be things that I find alternatives for. But

00:42:41.969 --> 00:42:46.349
to tell myself I can never have this or you can't

00:42:46.349 --> 00:42:49.949
ever do that. Not healthy. Not. No, not going

00:42:49.949 --> 00:42:52.969
to work for me. Sustainable, not sustainable.

00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:57.849
No, I agree. Yeah. Live your life. You got to.

00:42:57.849 --> 00:43:03.849
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going

00:43:03.849 --> 00:43:07.610
to beat myself up over a donut. I'm not either.

00:43:07.710 --> 00:43:10.389
And I think that's the thing, right, is. The

00:43:10.389 --> 00:43:12.389
recipes on the Internet, unfortunately, guys,

00:43:12.449 --> 00:43:14.369
are probably going to mostly be junk, but we're

00:43:14.369 --> 00:43:15.750
going to continue to test them and give you.

00:43:15.769 --> 00:43:18.250
There are some that are great. I'm sorry. The

00:43:18.250 --> 00:43:21.130
cottage cheese bowl pizza bowl has become a staple

00:43:21.130 --> 00:43:23.050
in my life. And it is something that I never

00:43:23.050 --> 00:43:24.849
thought would be good that I never thought I

00:43:24.849 --> 00:43:28.510
would like. And it is a regular on my in my house.

00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:30.590
So there are some out there that are good, but

00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:32.829
there's some out there that right away you can

00:43:32.829 --> 00:43:35.630
tell this is crap. And then there's some like

00:43:35.630 --> 00:43:38.460
the pizza one that you have to test it out. realize

00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:40.800
it's not great. The majority of them are not.

00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:42.860
We'll be honest. Like Hannah said, the majority

00:43:42.860 --> 00:43:45.340
of them suck, but there are some winners out

00:43:45.340 --> 00:43:48.179
there. You just got to find them. Yeah. And so

00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:51.150
you guys got this. Thank you, like always, for

00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:52.909
joining us and letting us ramble a little longer

00:43:52.909 --> 00:43:55.130
than usual this week. We're going to test another

00:43:55.130 --> 00:43:57.050
recipe. So we'll have another update for you

00:43:57.050 --> 00:43:58.809
by December 1st. We'll let you know what recipe

00:43:58.809 --> 00:44:01.869
we pick. But good luck as the holidays come up.

00:44:01.909 --> 00:44:03.610
We're going to be here with you guys to navigate

00:44:03.610 --> 00:44:05.690
the holidays. We're going to be here in December

00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:07.849
to talk to you about how we're doing with the

00:44:07.849 --> 00:44:10.050
holidays and holiday shopping and holiday planning.

00:44:10.389 --> 00:44:14.110
And you've got this. And, you know, just be kind

00:44:14.110 --> 00:44:16.309
to yourself. Give yourself grace. We all fall

00:44:16.309 --> 00:44:20.039
off the wagon. It happened to me. And you can

00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.159
absolutely pick yourself up, dust yourself off

00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.159
and you can get back on track. It is not impossible.

00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.639
And it's not something to be scary about because

00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:29.219
we're all going to go through it. It's kind of

00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:31.719
like menopause for women. You can't read it,

00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:33.760
guys. There's going to be a time where you fall

00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.599
off the wagon. We're all going to help you get

00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.280
back on and there's no judgment. Totally. We're

00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:39.679
all going to go through it probably multiple

00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.659
times in our life. Shit happens. But we've got

00:44:42.659 --> 00:44:45.440
and we're going to help you get back. And that's

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.880
why if you listen to our old podcast episodes,

00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.449
that's why we are. maybe a little anal on the

00:44:51.449 --> 00:44:53.309
calorie counting and the weighing yourself and

00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:55.449
the checking in. And I'm grateful that I have

00:44:55.449 --> 00:44:58.030
Steph because she is my sounding board that I

00:44:58.030 --> 00:45:00.949
can check in every week, just check in and vent

00:45:00.949 --> 00:45:03.929
and talk and ask. And, um, so find yourself that

00:45:03.929 --> 00:45:05.630
sounding board guys, that one who's not going

00:45:05.630 --> 00:45:07.949
to fluff you up, but who's going to be real,

00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:10.590
be real, but kind. And who's going to kind of

00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:12.050
help you figure stuff out. Who's going to be

00:45:12.050 --> 00:45:14.590
the one to say, Hey, maybe we've been eating.

00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:16.960
a little too much junk lately. Do you think?

00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.679
Yeah. And you're not going to get mad and you're

00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.500
going to go, okay, thank you. Because sometimes

00:45:20.500 --> 00:45:22.599
you just don't realize it. It's the accountability.

00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:24.840
Find somebody who will keep you accountable in

00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:26.699
a positive way, but will also challenge you,

00:45:26.739 --> 00:45:29.179
right? And make you sit back and review. You

00:45:29.179 --> 00:45:31.440
need a bounce of both. You need somebody who's

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.059
going to support you and who's going to help

00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:35.579
you and hold your hand and say, you got this.

00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.079
But then you also need somebody who's going to

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.239
make you step back and think about your choices

00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.440
and what you're doing and reflect and be that.

00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:46.340
that devil's advocate for you. So yeah, we're

00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:48.699
super lucky that we have each other. So find

00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:51.219
that person. Um, it's super important to have,

00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:53.460
but like Hannah said, we will, we will be with

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:55.519
you. We'll be, we'll be struggling through the

00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:57.280
holidays too. I'm sure the temptation will be

00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.500
real, but you just got this. Yeah. Prepare, step

00:46:01.500 --> 00:46:04.059
back, remember your why and take it one day at

00:46:04.059 --> 00:46:06.420
a time. You've got this, guys. Thank you, like

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:08.679
always, for joining us. And Steph, just thank

00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.059
you for being on the podcast with me. You too.

00:46:11.420 --> 00:46:14.539
Love it. Have a good night. See you in December.

00:46:15.139 --> 00:46:15.579
Bye.