Episode 32: Our Deep Dive into GLP-1s (Part One)

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Hey, Steph. Hello. How's it going? Good. How

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are you? Good. Good. Ready to chat. I know. Welcome

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to another episode of Bariatric Banter Podcast.

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I love it. I can't think of what number this

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is, but you'll all know it's number insert here.

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We're coming at you with a very special two -part

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episode this week. So this is going to be part

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one of what we think is actually a really cool

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two -part series that we're doing. So there's

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been a lot of discussion, especially in the bariatric

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community recently, about GLP -1s. We go via

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Magrano, Ozempic. I'm just going to refer to

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all of them as GLP -1 because I'm not going to

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remember how to pronounce those names properly.

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Too many. Too many. And so we wanted to... A,

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talk about our thoughts and feelings on them.

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And maybe kind of put some of our misconceptions

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and concerns out into the open. Because next

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episode, we're going to have a guest on who actually

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is on GLP -1s. And we're going to be able to

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ask her all of our questions, our myths, our

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misconceptions. We're going to actually be able

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to speak to what led her to do this. What does

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she like? What doesn't she like? Does she recommend

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it? So we're very excited to bring you part one

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where Steph and I are going to talk. through

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what we know about it. And, you know, some of

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them are probably misconceptions. We probably

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don't know everything about GLP -1s because we're

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not on them, but we get asked a lot about, oh,

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it's very similar to bariatric surgery, right?

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And you must know a lot about that and you're

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going to go on it, right? Because a ton of bariatric

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influencers have started taking it. And we will

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put an asterisk right at the start of this episode.

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Do it. We have absolutely no problem with people

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doing it. No, we don't. We don't think it's.

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Yeah, we don't think there's anything to be shamed

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about by taking it. We support it. But we want

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to talk through the questions that we both have

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about it. Some of the concerns we have about

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it. But we think it's great if you want to be

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on it. And then next week, we'll have an expert

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who's on it. Come hopefully help answer some

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of those questions and concerns we have. Yeah,

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and I think that's what it comes down to, right?

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Questions, concerns, things we've heard, things

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we've seen. Like you said, there's no judgment

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to anyone who's on it. I'll be very honest. It's

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not something that I think I will ever do. I

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have my own reasons why. I have my own history.

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But again, that doesn't mean I judge anybody

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who does it. If it works for you and it's what

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you want to do, you go right ahead. Do I have

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my concerns on it? Yep. Do I have my own personal

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feelings on it? Yep. But if it works for you

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and it fits into your lifestyle, that's great.

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I just think kind of as you alluded to, I just

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think there's some misconceptions. I think there's

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some maybe lack of preparation on some people's

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parts who maybe are jumping into it. I don't

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want to say with the wrong reasons, but maybe

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too quickly or without thinking the entire process

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through. Similar, no different than some people

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who do bariatric surgery, right? And we've talked

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about it where they think it's the magic pill

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or the easy pill. The easy way out. I think the

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same can kind of be said for the GLP -1s as well.

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And I think that's kind of where we're headed.

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Yeah. And I think I'm open to taking them. I

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don't think I could actually inject myself every

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day, but I think you'd get over it pretty quick.

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But I've had a lot of people, both personal and

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professional, ask. my thoughts and opinions on

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taking GLP -1. You've heard me say a few times,

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I've seen a rise of bariatric influencers on

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GLP -1, which we don't care. My large concern

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is I do believe you owe the public a disclosure

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that you're on it, especially if you're an influencer

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who promotes yourself as a bariatric influencer.

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It's not okay to hide that you're on a GLP -1

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because now you're making people believe that

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this is what. eating looks like after bariatric

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surgery, and it's not. Or that your success is

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coming soon from bariatric surgery. And you're

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setting unrealistic examples. So that's where

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I have a bit of an issue. If you're going to

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be on it and you're an influencer, not just an

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average everyday person, then I do think you

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owe the public disclosure that you're on it because

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you're kind of falsely misrepresenting bariatric

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surgery. So that's one little issue I have with

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GLP -1s. And then The other kind of issue I have,

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and please call me out on this, listeners, because

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I don't want to be a hypocrite. I hate when people

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say bariatric surgery is the easy way out. And

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you all know why. The immense amount of work

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that we need to put into this. This is not easy.

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And I hate what I'm about to say. But I don't

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like people comparing GLP -1s to bariatric surgery

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in any way. They're vastly different. Not the

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same journey. And I'm not trying to diminish

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that there is an effort that goes into taking

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GLP -1s. And I'm not trying to do what everyone

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does to bariatric surgery and call it the easy

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way out. However, it is not bariatric surgery.

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We are not the same person. We have similarities.

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But in no way is this the same journey or experience,

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or I hate to say it, level of work that bariatric

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surgery is. So don't compare the two. And okay,

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here's how I'll describe it. Having a kid and

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having a dog are not the same thing. So please

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don't pretend that raising a puppy is just as

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hard as raising a child. It's kind of insulting

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to parents. The process is... vastly different.

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From day one, vastly different process, vastly

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different requirements, vastly different processes

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to get into bariatric surgery to have the surgery

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versus getting a GLP -1. Now, again, that doesn't

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mean that there's not people who are taking GLP

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-1s that are working out, that are tracking their

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food, that are busting their butt. But what we're

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seeing is a rise of people who are I don't want

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to say not taking it seriously, but who are just,

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well, I'll just take a GLP -1 and that'll solve

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my problem. And that's what we're seeing arise

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in. And that's what I think is concerning is

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that there's no, we talked about it for bariatric

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surgery. For us, we have the pre -op. program

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and we have to work with a dietician and we have

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to work with a social worker and we have to work

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with a nurse practitioner and we have to go through

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all the mental side of everything and learning

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about proper eating and tracking your food and

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how to like there's so much that goes into that

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process and forgetting your GLP -1 you have blood

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work you have doctors and there are certain requirements

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you have to hit for most people I know in different

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countries and stuff it's different but there

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are typically requirements you have to hit but

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there's nobody guiding you through the rest of

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the process. There's no dietician helping you

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along the way. There's nobody helping you with

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the mental shift. And we're just seeing a rise

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of people who are taking the GLP -1 and then

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just not eating, not tracking food, not eating.

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And then of course you're losing weight. Of course

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you're going to lose weight, but it's not sustainable

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and it's not healthy. Like Hannah said, there's

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no judgment around GLP -1s, people taking it.

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No, take it. The thing that kind of scares us,

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having gone through this year -long pre -op program,

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is the lack of education or the lack of resources

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that a lot of these people on GLP -1s are going

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into it blind and just thinking, well, I'll just

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take the GLP -1 and I'll lose weight. But there's

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so much more to it. So much more to it. And you're

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kind of nailing where I get a little heated.

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So again, I'm not trying to say easy way out

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because nothing ever is. There is work for anything

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you do. This is why I don't like it being compared

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to bariatric surgery, because this is not in

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any way the same journey or the same beast. I

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have very large concerns that people are able

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to just get on this medication. with like virtual

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consults so now I know technically there are

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people who've gone through their doctor and I

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love it because like if you have a great family

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doctor that's going to support you on this journey

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that's awesome but there are people who circumnavigate

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that and just do online assessments like back

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in the day before weed was legal and everybody

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got to do an online consultation to get a license

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to buy marijuana and it was like kind of a doctor

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but not really a doctor You can do this in Canada.

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There's a few websites where you can just do

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a virtual consultation where they'll just ask

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you very basic questions about your health and

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then be like, you're approved. Here's your injection.

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Start at this. Very large concerns about that

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because these are people taking it for weight

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loss specifically who have no dietician, no therapist,

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probably aren't using their primary care doctor,

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or even if they are, aren't checking in with

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them like weekly, who've had no training. no

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schooling, no nothing on eating, overcoming emotional

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eating, dealing with the demons that led you

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to be overweight and are now injecting themselves

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with a weight loss drug. with no support system

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except for Reddit and Instagram and TikTok who

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are seeing all these people now not eating because

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I've actually had a friend reach out who was

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like, I'm thinking of going on it and I'm really

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supportive of that. I think it's a great idea

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if you do it properly with your healthcare provider.

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And then like two days later was like, oh my

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goodness, I know someone who's on it and they

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basically don't eat anything. And I was like,

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yeah, I'm gonna, I hate to be that guy. But don't

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look up on social media because everyone on social

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media, not everyone, but vast majority, they're

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not eating. There are famous bariatric influencers,

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two of them who are incredibly famous, one who

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I think most of you probably follow, who is on

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a GLP -1 because she has regained some weight

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recently, I think like 30 pounds in a short period

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of time. I have very, very, very big concerns

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about the fact that she posts barely eating anything.

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Like people have called her out. What I eat in

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a day is like nothing. It's disturbing. She's

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posted and people have called out. This is all

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liquid. You barely ate anything. And we're talking

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like woke up, had a protein coffee, not even

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a big one, and then had a few bites of some leftovers

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and then went six and a half hours with no food

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to eat a built bar. And then eat a little bit

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of cottage cheese with some meat. And that's

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it. Called it a day. But it's like super happy

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because they've lost over 30 pounds and here

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we go. This is my big concern because in surgery

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we learned you have to eat small meals a day

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and you have to learn how to eat. You have to

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have a good healthy relationship with food. You

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need food. And it's not sustainable. If that

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is your relationship with food on Ozempic, you'll

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never be able to come off of it. And it's not.

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healthy. You really shouldn't just be not eating.

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Bodies cannot survive on one meal a day. And

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I am very, very, very troubled by how many GLP

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-1 people on social aren't eating and thinking

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that's totally normal. I was talking to somebody

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who was on it and they were like, yeah, you know,

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like I ate twice today. I was like, that's not,

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that's not enough. And it's this counterintuitive

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misconception of, well, if I want to lose weight,

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I just don't eat. Well, no, that's not, that's

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actually extremely bad for you. Not eating is

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the opposite of what you want to do. You want

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to eat and fuel your body. And so trying to talk

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to these, to this individual and say, hey, like

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you still need to be eating five to six times

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a day. But similar to us, like smaller portions,

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more consistent, keeping that satiation consistent

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throughout the day instead of trying to cram

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this big meal in. And then you're so hungry that,

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like you said, then you go six hours with no

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food. And that becomes a problem because if you

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put your body into that habit of not eating,

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you're going to lose weight. You're going to

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think that you're being successful. But what

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happens when you go off of the medication? You

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can't come off of it. Right. You either have

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to stay on it forever or you're going to come

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off the medication. The hunger cues are going

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to come back. And you haven't built those habits

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during however long you've been on the medication.

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You haven't built those habits in. So what's

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going to happen is you're going to go back to

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your old habits. You're going to be starving.

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You're going to be hungry. The hunger cues are

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going to come back. The food noise is going to

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come back. And you're just going to eat and eat.

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So being on a GLP -1 is fine, but you still have

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to eat properly, eat enough, follow good, I don't

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want to say diet because I don't like the word

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diet, but follow a good diet, good food guidelines.

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Yeah. You can't just say, I'm going to take a

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GLP -1 because then I'm not going to eat and

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I'm going to lose 100 pounds. And that's great.

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Yeah, you are, but that's not healthy. Do you

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know what's going to come from that? So we're

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not, again, we're not trying to scare people,

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but here's the thing. When you jump on a GLP

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-1 and you don't have all the info and you don't

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have someone to check in with every week and

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you don't have a therapist and a dietician, you

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maybe aren't being told the full picture. Pancreatitis,

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while not an epidemic, is very high. among people

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who take GLP -1s. There's a really incredible

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Reddit channel of healthcare providers. I think

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it's called like Nurses in Action or something

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like that, where it's doctors and nurses, and

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they get to just share and talk about things.

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And somebody put up a post about, let's talk

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about GLP -1s. And overwhelmingly, the nurses

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were like, God, I wish people would tell them

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that pancreatitis is up. huge problem or uh cristed

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bowels like that becomes a really big well sorry

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compacted bowels becomes a big one because you're

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barely eating everything is becoming compacted

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and hard in there and like you don't really want

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a doctor to have to go up in your poop chute

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and pull it out uh because i don't but the pancreatitis

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it's becoming a big big big problem with a lot

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of people jumping on glp -1 and then not following

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proper protocol on it and if you don't know When

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your pancreas becomes infected and inflamed,

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they have to, they don't take it out, but I think

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they have to remove a portion of it or do something.

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That then leads to you being a diabetic. There

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is no way around that. If it's severe enough

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that you have to go to the hospital, you come

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out as a diabetic because now you can't produce

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insulin the way you need to. So there are very

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real ramifications from not eating. And from

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just thinking that all you have to do is drink

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liquid. Vitamin deficiency kills bariatric patients.

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And I hate to bring this person up again because

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they've been brought up in a lot of podcasts.

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But Big Chris, look her up, was a very popular

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bariatric influencer who notoriously did not

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take her vitamins and did not eat the diet she

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was supposed to and wasn't really eating and

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documented her journey in the hospital and took

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full accountability for what happened. Her organs

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started to shut down and she passed away. When

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you like vitamin deficiency. Yeah. Vitamin deficiency

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doesn't just happen overnight. It takes months

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to happen, but it can take years to. come back

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from that. We're not talking like my vitamin

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D is low because that happens to a lot of us.

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We're talking you're deficient. And before surgery,

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I was deficient in vitamin D. It kind of explains

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a lot of like why I had such high anxiety and

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I was having a really hard Christmas and I was

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depressed. Like I just did not feel like myself.

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My vitamin D was just in the garbage. I had to

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go on four and a half months. You went the opposite

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way. Yeah, I had to go on four and a half months

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of 10 ,000 IU a day. Well over the like. Which

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is crazy. Under medical supervision, I was taking

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over 70 ,000 IU a week. And it took four and

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a half months to get to low normal. Like didn't

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didn't push me through the roof, got me to a

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level where I was allowed to have surgery. I'm

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now since then, I'm great. And I do supplement

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vitamin D and I'm back at a normal vitamin D

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level. But vitamin deficiency takes a really

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long time to hit and then an even longer time

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to correct. And you can't cause permanent deficiency.

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No, it causes permanent damage, long term side

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effects. Yeah, that's why we always say, guys,

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there's guidelines, like in our program especially,

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but there's guidelines for a reason. It's not

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there to be a pain. It's not there to make your

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life annoying. It's not there because we all

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want to take eight, nine supplements a day. It's

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there for a reason. And so I think I wish there

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was more guidance for people who are on GLP -1s

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because we know there's people who are on it

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for the right reasons. We know there's people

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who are doing. it the right way, who are watching

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their food, who are making healthier choices,

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who are exercising. They're using it like we're

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using surgery as a tool. A tool. But we also

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know, a tool. We also know there's people who

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are seeing the rise in GLP -1s and thinking,

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well, shit, if all I have to do is inject myself

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once a week and I can lose weight and not eat,

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perfect. Easy. And that, yeah, that's the concern,

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right? So how do we try to mitigate that? How

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do we. They're looking for. They're looking for

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the easier way out. And I think you're right.

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The the amount of people that and I don't use

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that word lightly because I know that that's

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such a hypocritical thing to say. But the ones

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that are looking for the easy way out are the

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ones doing it for that for looks. And I remember

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when I entered this bariatric program, the. social

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worker asked like why are you doing this and

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even my therapist asked why are you doing this

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every call every call what's your why you don't

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want to hear it's because you want to be skinny

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or that this is all about looks um And even my

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therapist was like, I don't want to hear you

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say, well, I want to be healthier. She's like

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that. Like everybody says the same generic shit.

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She's like, what do you want to achieve after

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this? And that's how we built my bucket list

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of I want to ride a horse. I want to travel without

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blah, blah, blah. Like and when we started piecing

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it together, she said, do you see how none of

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this has to do with your looks? Not once did

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you say, well, I want to look, you know, like

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this or look like that. Like you wanted you want

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to get married. You want to find a husband. You

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want like, you know, big, big goals. But. In

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the program, they ask the same thing, and they

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don't want to hear someone be like, well, I need

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to look hot. Like, I need to look skinny. I need

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to be skinny. I want to be size 10. I want to,

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yeah. And I've had people. Those answers aren't

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allowed. No. And I've had people, and so has

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Steph, reach out to us being like, I want to

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look like you, so I'm going to start taking Ozempic.

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And I'm like, okay, so just my looks should not

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be the reason to do this. I literally had a conversation

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this week with somebody who was like, oh my gosh,

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you're wearing smaller clothes than I am now.

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I want to look just like you. I have an appointment

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at the doctor to talk about GLP -1s. And I was

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like, first of all, I'm not taking a GLP -1.

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Second of all, this has taken a lot of time to

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get to this point. Third of all, just because

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I'm wearing a size small, and I know for a fact,

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there's somebody I talked to the other day that

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made a comment like this. I know for a fact that

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I, numbers wise, I weigh more than them. I know

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for a fact I weigh more than them. But I'm taller

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than they are. They are shorter than me. So yes,

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the sizes are one thing, but our weights are

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different. It's like you cannot compare what

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you're seeing. Nope. Because you and I are different

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heights. So you probably will be a different

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size than me. But standing side by side, we're

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going to look the same size. But like you will

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get. you're taller than me. There's like, you'll

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probably be a six and I'll be an eight and that's

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fine. I'm short. Yeah. Like your weight's going

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to be different. Your size are going to be different.

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Everything's going to be different. And I remember

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listening to a podcast a while ago and it was

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from the, um, your way weight loss ladies that

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who got me hooked on this, the red pepper dip.

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And I remember them saying about how. She used

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to look at people and say, I wish I was them.

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I wish I had their life. I wish I looked like

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them. But what you always have to remember is

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you don't know what went into that. And you don't

00:21:01.660 --> 00:21:04.319
know why they look that way. Do they look that

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way because they had an eating disorder that

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they're trying to overcome? Did they look that

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way because they'd been putting four years of

00:21:10.019 --> 00:21:12.859
hard -ass work into it? You don't know. So you

00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:15.059
don't want to say, I wish I looked like you or

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I wish I was your size. You don't know the implications

00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:19.680
of that and you don't know what it took to get

00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:24.539
there. I do get it because I always wanted to

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be skinny and I would say I always want to be,

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I wanted to be skinny and I wanted to look good.

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But I think the thing you should want is to,

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I want to look as good as you, you know, like

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you smile more and you look healthy and you like.

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Your goal should be, I want to feel like that.

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I want to have. Yeah. Yes. I want to have that

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confidence. I want to have that smile. I want

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to have that joy. That's what you should be looking

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for. Not I want to weigh what she weighs. My

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problem, too, with this is I think in Canada

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there needs to be a program. that you go into

00:22:02.019 --> 00:22:04.140
and I think the program because it's similar

00:22:04.140 --> 00:22:06.579
to bariatric surgery we did say there's no qualifications

00:22:06.579 --> 00:22:09.559
to get in however your doctor likely will say

00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.200
something like I've seen you try I've seen that

00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.099
you've been putting the effort in and that's

00:22:14.099 --> 00:22:16.160
what mine said it's been a year you've been with

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a dietician and you have a personal trainer and

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you've been in and out of here and I've seen

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that you have tried and he said you have a lot

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stacked against you and I think surgery is your

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best option So that's what I'd like to see from

00:22:27.460 --> 00:22:29.380
people that want to take it as well. And I mean

00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:31.299
this nicely, but like even just for two weeks,

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can you make a meal plan, stick with it and start

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exercising? Because a lot of the people and it's

00:22:36.819 --> 00:22:38.980
not all of them. I have wonderful humans that

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I'm encouraging to take this because I've seen

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.299
the hard work they've put in. And I know that

00:22:44.299 --> 00:22:47.119
this paired with their hard work will be exceptional

00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.920
for them. But then I also see the people who

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don't walk, don't exercise, eat like shit. who

00:22:54.150 --> 00:22:55.569
kind of think like, well, I'm just going to go

00:22:55.569 --> 00:22:57.269
grab this and it's going to fix everything I've

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done. And I know people feel the same about me

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being like, fuck you, Hannah, you were super

00:23:01.329 --> 00:23:03.329
obese and you did dumb shit and ate like crap

00:23:03.329 --> 00:23:06.029
and you took the easy way out. Sure, it's easy

00:23:06.029 --> 00:23:08.009
to look at me and say that, but I went through

00:23:08.009 --> 00:23:10.549
a year program where I had to stop drinking,

00:23:10.609 --> 00:23:13.910
stop eating certain things. If you were smoking

00:23:13.910 --> 00:23:15.730
weed or cigarettes, you had to give those up.

00:23:15.789 --> 00:23:17.549
I had to go through intense blood testing every

00:23:17.549 --> 00:23:19.329
three months. I had to speak with social workers.

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I had to prove that I could stick to a diet.

00:23:22.910 --> 00:23:25.049
I also had to have my doctor say, like, she has

00:23:25.049 --> 00:23:27.910
tried. She can do this. But actually, you don't

00:23:27.910 --> 00:23:32.230
know what somebody's put into what they put into

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or what got them there. And I know, like, we

00:23:34.509 --> 00:23:37.190
try and show things on social media. But I'll

00:23:37.190 --> 00:23:39.849
be honest. Like, yeah, we show some hard stuff.

00:23:39.950 --> 00:23:42.569
But we probably don't show. We don't. Like a

00:23:42.569 --> 00:23:44.450
lot of people out there. We don't show our entire

00:23:44.450 --> 00:23:46.990
life. We don't show everything. Right? We try

00:23:46.990 --> 00:23:49.490
to be real and genuine and honest. But, guys,

00:23:49.569 --> 00:23:53.140
there's a lot of shit that you don't. see that

00:23:53.140 --> 00:23:55.940
goes on there's a lot of hard ass days and a

00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:59.759
hard ass time and like we like Hannah said the

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amount of stuff we have gone through to get here

00:24:02.819 --> 00:24:05.440
and yeah we've made stupid choices yeah we've

00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.779
eaten like shit yeah we let ourselves go yeah

00:24:07.779 --> 00:24:10.619
we didn't look after ourselves um yeah we've

00:24:10.619 --> 00:24:13.279
we've made mistakes and I guarantee there's people

00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:16.079
judging both of us left right and center and

00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.599
that's all the time but we know we know we're

00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.859
putting in the work We know we're doing what

00:24:22.859 --> 00:24:24.720
needs to be done. And like there's days I messaged

00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:26.059
Hannah the other day and I was like, man, I was

00:24:26.059 --> 00:24:30.140
a bad bariatric patient today. Like I did not

00:24:30.140 --> 00:24:32.960
enough. Yeah. Like I did not eat enough. I did

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:35.759
not pack for being on the road. I was not prepared.

00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:38.799
I didn't hit my hydration. Like it happens. But

00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.420
I think the key is what Hannah said is when used

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.579
as a tool, same as same as surgery. And again,

00:24:45.619 --> 00:24:47.440
they're not the same thing, but they have that

00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:53.339
same underlying. When used as a tool in conjunction

00:24:53.339 --> 00:24:57.579
with eating better, eating healthier, moving

00:24:57.579 --> 00:25:01.319
your body, it can be phenomenal. And I have seen

00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:04.380
so many people benefit from it. I have family

00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:06.180
members who are on it. And that's phenomenal.

00:25:06.940 --> 00:25:12.339
But it's a tool. It's a tool. It is not a magic

00:25:12.339 --> 00:25:15.079
fix. And that's where I worry about people is.

00:25:15.630 --> 00:25:17.970
The people who you see who are using it as a

00:25:17.970 --> 00:25:20.009
magic fix, they're losing all this weight. They

00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:22.230
think they're doing so great, and then they're

00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:23.849
going to stop taking it, and what's going to

00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:27.130
happen? And I don't want to see them fail. I

00:25:27.130 --> 00:25:29.829
don't want to see them just go back to the way

00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:31.910
they were. So maybe they'll stay on it forever.

00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:33.930
That's one of my questions, right? And that's

00:25:33.930 --> 00:25:36.910
one of my things as to why I'm so hesitant for

00:25:36.910 --> 00:25:39.869
GLP -1s is so for anyone who doesn't know, my

00:25:39.869 --> 00:25:42.470
husband and I did a couple years of fertility

00:25:42.470 --> 00:25:46.230
treatments back. years ago. And part of that

00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:50.750
was injections. And I have and had and have long

00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:52.910
-term side effects from those injections that

00:25:52.910 --> 00:25:55.809
were never told to me, never explained to me,

00:25:55.849 --> 00:25:59.390
were not made clear, that only came out years

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:04.690
later. And so that's where my personal concerns

00:26:04.690 --> 00:26:08.230
with GLP -Lanser is I don't feel there's enough

00:26:08.230 --> 00:26:11.130
research around the long -term effects or around

00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:15.319
what happens when you stop it. So for me, that's

00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.259
my thing. And that's my thing. That doesn't mean

00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:19.940
I don't think anyone else should take it. Like

00:26:19.940 --> 00:26:22.339
I said, you do you. What works for you? Phenomenal.

00:26:22.900 --> 00:26:24.640
But that's where my concerns are. And that's

00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.180
where I always worry when I see certain people

00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:29.099
who are kind of taking in and throwing caution

00:26:29.099 --> 00:26:32.539
to the wind. I've seen more doing that. Yeah.

00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.059
If you don't have those habits built in place,

00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:37.880
when you stop taking the medication, what happens?

00:26:38.099 --> 00:26:40.079
Those are my questions. We know what that is.

00:26:41.230 --> 00:26:43.509
Yeah. And that's why I'm excited next week to

00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:45.910
talk to someone we have coming on who's on a

00:26:45.910 --> 00:26:49.089
GLP -1. Yeah. Because I've never, to be totally

00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:52.089
honest, I've never had that discussion with my

00:26:52.089 --> 00:26:54.009
doctor because GLP -1s was just never something

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:56.950
that was on my radar. So I'm curious around like

00:26:56.950 --> 00:26:59.369
what were her discussions like with her doctor?

00:26:59.589 --> 00:27:02.390
What was her, what information was given to her?

00:27:02.450 --> 00:27:05.269
I'm curious for that side of things. Yeah. And

00:27:05.269 --> 00:27:07.430
I know that people, you know, do go into maintenance

00:27:07.430 --> 00:27:11.009
mode and are able to maintain. And I know that

00:27:11.009 --> 00:27:12.809
it's the same as bariatric surgery. We will all

00:27:12.809 --> 00:27:14.829
have a bit of regain. They've told us you'll

00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:16.529
go low and then you'll come up a little bit.

00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:20.529
That is normal. But I know that the statistics

00:27:20.529 --> 00:27:22.329
out there say that like, well, you're only going

00:27:22.329 --> 00:27:25.309
to gain like 30 % back or blah, blah, blah. I

00:27:25.309 --> 00:27:27.470
don't understand how that's possible because

00:27:27.470 --> 00:27:31.269
the GLP -1 doesn't. It doesn't burn fat. It doesn't

00:27:31.269 --> 00:27:33.430
go into your system and completely suck the fat

00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:35.890
out of you. It suppresses your appetite and that

00:27:35.890 --> 00:27:38.089
is what causes you to lose weight. So I genuinely

00:27:38.089 --> 00:27:39.950
don't understand how you're going to come off

00:27:39.950 --> 00:27:43.710
the GLP -1 and not put the weight back on because

00:27:43.710 --> 00:27:48.009
you cannot survive on one meal a day. And that's

00:27:48.009 --> 00:27:51.009
where I'm having a lot of issues is, and people

00:27:51.009 --> 00:27:52.829
are saying it, I think it is the right label.

00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:55.200
this seems like a lot of eating disorders. And

00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:58.140
it is because you were obese. You're on this

00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:00.440
because you want to be thin. You're way too scared

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.859
to eat enough food while doing this. And like,

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.220
that's dangerous. Like the, you need to be in

00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.859
a GLP -1 and setting alarms or setting reminders

00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:11.920
that like, I know you're trying to lose weight,

00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:14.700
but you still have to eat. Like you can't just

00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:19.059
not eat and be like, there we go. So counterintuitive.

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.119
And I said that to somebody today. I was like,

00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:25.029
I know. I know the thought process is eat less,

00:28:25.069 --> 00:28:28.009
lose weight. And I know it's counterintuitive,

00:28:28.049 --> 00:28:30.690
but you have to make sure you're eating. And

00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:32.509
I said to them, like, you got to be eating six

00:28:32.509 --> 00:28:35.750
times a day, small throughout the day, keep it

00:28:35.750 --> 00:28:37.430
consistent. And I said the same thing. I said,

00:28:37.509 --> 00:28:41.990
I still, hydration is still my big struggle every

00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:44.769
day. I set a timer on my watch and on my phone.

00:28:44.829 --> 00:28:47.309
It just went off every 15 minutes. It says water

00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:50.609
reminder. So you do what you do what you got

00:28:50.609 --> 00:28:54.839
to do. I had that exact conversation today is

00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.940
I know you think you're doing good by not eating

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:00.299
because we're always told eat less, eat less,

00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.140
eat less. But you need to make sure you're eating

00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:07.359
enough to fuel your body, to hit your nutrients

00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.559
and to be healthy. There's a difference between

00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.680
eating enough to fuel yourself and be in a healthy

00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:17.220
spot than eating 3000 calories a day. Right.

00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.079
We're not saying you should be eating like you

00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.509
used to eat. But we're saying you still need

00:29:22.509 --> 00:29:27.569
to eat. Yeah. And the thing is, like, there hasn't

00:29:27.569 --> 00:29:29.809
been enough studies on your muscle loss as well.

00:29:29.829 --> 00:29:31.950
Like, that's a huge thing for bariatric patients,

00:29:32.049 --> 00:29:33.990
which is why we have strength training and why

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:36.890
we eat such super high protein meals. There have

00:29:36.890 --> 00:29:39.990
not been enough studies on GLP -1 and your muscle

00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:42.309
wasting. And if anything, that should be the

00:29:42.309 --> 00:29:45.289
most terrifying part. You don't want your muscle

00:29:45.289 --> 00:29:48.390
density to drop. want to lose muscles and fat.

00:29:48.569 --> 00:29:51.289
And unfortunately, a lot of people on Ozempic

00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:53.470
have been reporting that they have drastic muscle

00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:56.029
loss, even with working out. That's where you

00:29:56.029 --> 00:29:58.309
start to become super weak and unable to do anything.

00:29:58.490 --> 00:30:00.890
And so I'm scared about that. And then there

00:30:00.890 --> 00:30:03.279
are a lot of people who've said. you know, now

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.019
they're exercising. Like that's the best part

00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:06.720
about it. If you lose weight, you feel better.

00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:08.880
You want to exercise more. So is it possible

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.079
to come off of it because now your life has changed?

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:14.039
Probably. But there's more stories, unfortunately,

00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.960
of people saying I was eating well and exercising

00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.500
a lot. So we decided to come off the Ozempic

00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:22.480
and I didn't change my diet or exercise and I

00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.200
somehow gained all the weight back. And it's

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.299
like, that's depressing. That's really hard to

00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:28.700
be on Ozempic, have changed your eating habits

00:30:28.700 --> 00:30:31.019
and started exercising more, come off this drug

00:30:31.019 --> 00:30:33.849
and gain your weight back. And like, that's what

00:30:33.849 --> 00:30:36.289
I want to ask this person is from my understanding,

00:30:36.609 --> 00:30:40.650
this doesn't melt fat in your body. It quiets

00:30:40.650 --> 00:30:42.890
the conversation and the food noise and makes

00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:46.309
you not as hungry. So you eat less. So how is

00:30:46.309 --> 00:30:49.950
it? That if you're eating less and you swear

00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:52.769
that you stick with that diet and come off, you

00:30:52.769 --> 00:30:55.609
gain all your weight back. Right. How is that?

00:30:55.670 --> 00:30:57.970
Is it that people are lying and that their diet,

00:30:58.009 --> 00:31:00.569
in fact, did not stay the same or their exercise?

00:31:00.809 --> 00:31:03.130
And that's the thing. Like ozempic quiets the

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:04.970
food noise. So maybe you think you're eating

00:31:04.970 --> 00:31:07.349
the same diet when you come off of it, but you

00:31:07.349 --> 00:31:09.769
actually are snacking in between or you're having

00:31:09.769 --> 00:31:12.490
slightly bigger. Grazing comes back. Because

00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:15.170
I don't quite understand how coming off of it.

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.619
And eating a low calorie, low fat diet causes

00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:21.779
you to gain all that weight back then. If you're

00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:25.339
sticking with that same barely eating. I think

00:31:25.339 --> 00:31:28.599
it's the food choices. And like I said, I think

00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.059
it's the falling back into the habits of grazing,

00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.960
of still thinking you're not eating that much,

00:31:33.980 --> 00:31:39.079
but you are. A lot of people that I know or that

00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.700
I've seen who are on GLP -1s are not tracking.

00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.319
their food. And I think that's a part of it too,

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.599
is then when you come off the GLP -1, you think

00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.460
you're eating the same amounts, but are you tracking?

00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.119
Do you know that for sure? And I think like we

00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.900
see a lot on social media, I don't think we're

00:31:57.900 --> 00:31:59.500
always getting the full picture. Like you said,

00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.299
maybe we're not quite getting the truth, getting

00:32:01.299 --> 00:32:02.980
the full story because it doesn't make sense.

00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:06.039
Right. So I think there's still, there's still

00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.440
so many questions out there about GLP -1s. I

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.019
think like we've said, they can be a phenomenal

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:15.519
tool. when used correctly, zero judgment on anyone

00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.019
who uses them. It's not a thing that I personally

00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:22.420
will use, but that's just me. And who knows?

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:24.900
I say that now, maybe five years down the road,

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.980
who knows? But at this point in my life, not

00:32:26.980 --> 00:32:30.000
a thing for me. But if it works for you, if it

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.279
fits into your lifestyle, if you're using it

00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.740
in conjunction with other healthy choices and

00:32:35.740 --> 00:32:37.720
you're making it a part of a healthy lifestyle,

00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:40.980
I think it's fantastic. But I think we have to

00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:44.680
be very careful. with labeling things as an easy

00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:49.440
fix, a magic pill, and getting lost in that mindset

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.440
and that slippery slope of, well, this is all

00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.140
I have to do. If it were that easy, if it were

00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:58.079
that easy, everybody would be skinny. Everybody

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.799
would be skinny, right? Yeah, it'd be great.

00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:04.039
And like, again, I want to know more about it

00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:05.880
because there is a world that maybe I'll go on

00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.539
it. But my only hesitation is I won't be on something

00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:11.559
for life. I just won't because... And genuinely,

00:33:11.579 --> 00:33:13.380
I know it's been around for like 30 plus years

00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:14.940
and blah, blah, blah. But like they never study

00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:16.839
these things on women. They never study them

00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.519
on women with certain medical. Like, sure, they've

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.200
done studies, but I guarantee you it's been on

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.579
men, predominantly men, because that's how we've

00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:25.920
done all of our medical testing for years. There's

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.000
a great book called Invisible Women that you

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:29.859
should read. That's all about how all the data

00:33:29.859 --> 00:33:32.670
and testing we have. across advertising, medical,

00:33:32.809 --> 00:33:36.049
everything is predominantly done on white men.

00:33:36.269 --> 00:33:38.750
So there is a little bit of a concern for me

00:33:38.750 --> 00:33:40.650
about what actually is this going to be doing

00:33:40.650 --> 00:33:43.390
for long term for weight loss. And there's always

00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:45.390
going to be information that doesn't come out

00:33:45.390 --> 00:33:48.049
and that you don't get, right? Like I have glasses

00:33:48.049 --> 00:33:51.789
now permanently. I had beyond perfect vision

00:33:51.789 --> 00:33:54.910
for years, beyond perfect vision. And then we

00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:56.509
did our fertility treatments. And then a couple

00:33:56.509 --> 00:33:58.950
of years later, my eyes got really bad. And I

00:33:58.950 --> 00:34:01.700
remember going to the eye doctor. And she looked.

00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:03.220
She did my test. She looked at me. We're looking

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:05.960
at my scans and my photos. And she said, I don't

00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.699
want to scare you. But the only time I've seen

00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:11.940
eyes get this bad this fast is cancer. She's

00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:14.340
like, so hold on. Like, let's go through this

00:34:14.340 --> 00:34:16.440
again. And we went through everything. And I

00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.219
was talking. And I said, fertility treatments.

00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:20.039
And I kept going. And all of a sudden, she went,

00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:21.719
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What did you say?

00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.460
And I said, fertility treatments. And she said,

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:26.380
were you on, like, injectables? And I said, yep.

00:34:26.539 --> 00:34:28.340
And she said, which ones? And I told her. And

00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:30.590
she just looked at me and goes, bingo. And I

00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:34.150
said, what? She goes, massive eyesight deterioration

00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:37.369
as a long -term side effect. But that was never

00:34:37.369 --> 00:34:40.789
told to me. It was never, I never read it any,

00:34:40.849 --> 00:34:43.809
like it was never made public. It was not one

00:34:43.809 --> 00:34:46.969
of the listed side effects. So even though there's

00:34:46.969 --> 00:34:48.690
some studies out there, do we really know the

00:34:48.690 --> 00:34:51.530
full picture? No. And when we say long -term,

00:34:51.550 --> 00:34:55.070
like the definition of long -term in these studies

00:34:55.070 --> 00:34:57.110
can be very different too. So yeah, I have a

00:34:57.110 --> 00:35:00.670
lot of questions. I'm very curious. I think it'll

00:35:00.670 --> 00:35:03.670
be really interesting to talk about her journey,

00:35:03.809 --> 00:35:07.510
why she chose it, what she's seen. Does she have

00:35:07.510 --> 00:35:09.449
any regrets? What's worked well for her? What

00:35:09.449 --> 00:35:11.269
hasn't? What does she see in her future? I just

00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:12.530
think it'll be a really interesting conversation

00:35:12.530 --> 00:35:15.130
to hear her take on it because I know she's very

00:35:15.130 --> 00:35:19.530
open about it. And to see what she's thinking

00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:20.929
in her journey. I think she's a couple months,

00:35:21.150 --> 00:35:25.630
I want to say maybe three, four months in. It

00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:26.949
could be a little bit off. But a couple months

00:35:26.949 --> 00:35:29.809
in. So I'm very curious to see. And she's increased

00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:32.050
her dose a few times. So I'm very curious to

00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:35.329
see what her thoughts are and what she sees long

00:35:35.329 --> 00:35:37.630
term with herself. Yeah. And that's what I want

00:35:37.630 --> 00:35:38.889
to know. Like, will they come off? Will they

00:35:38.889 --> 00:35:41.789
try? Is she one of those people that only eats

00:35:41.789 --> 00:35:43.650
once a day? There's, you know, there's a lot

00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:45.789
of comments about, oh, yeah, I came off of it

00:35:45.789 --> 00:35:47.730
and I've been successful for six months off of

00:35:47.730 --> 00:35:50.250
it. I intermittent fast and eat one meal a day.

00:35:50.469 --> 00:35:53.289
That's also like just in pure transparency, not

00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:56.510
a life I want to. really horrible to me. I'm

00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:58.289
not going to be one of those people that only

00:35:58.289 --> 00:36:00.309
eats once a day and then comes off of a weight

00:36:00.309 --> 00:36:02.309
loss pill and is so fucking scared to gain weight

00:36:02.309 --> 00:36:04.610
that I just stop eating. Yeah, that's not for

00:36:04.610 --> 00:36:07.809
me. Absolutely terrible in my mind. So yeah,

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:09.590
just curious. Also, it doesn't work for some

00:36:09.590 --> 00:36:10.969
people as well. There's some people who take

00:36:10.969 --> 00:36:14.610
it. It doesn't work. But the overwhelming response

00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:17.170
is that the food noise comes back. So you have

00:36:17.170 --> 00:36:19.489
to be Like you have to put your guard up when

00:36:19.489 --> 00:36:21.909
you come off of this and not give in to the food

00:36:21.909 --> 00:36:24.409
noise and the eating. So I almost think for me,

00:36:24.429 --> 00:36:27.030
it would be worse to go on this because if I

00:36:27.030 --> 00:36:30.030
did come off of it, I think, oh my God, no, like

00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:32.340
I'll just deal with the. level i'm at now that

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:34.639
i can handle but i feel like if i went on it

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.300
and then came off of it that food noise would

00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:39.139
feel like it was amplified and i know thank you

00:36:39.139 --> 00:36:42.820
i also am very curious to see like yo -yo people

00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:45.420
going on it losing weight eating whatever they

00:36:45.420 --> 00:36:47.239
want knowing that they can go back on it and

00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:49.260
just lose again and then like i don't know how

00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:51.119
that's gonna be and we know that's probably not

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.360
good for our internal systems to yo -yo but i

00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.780
think people see this as well i can do whatever

00:36:55.780 --> 00:36:58.099
i want and then hop back on it and drop the weight

00:36:58.099 --> 00:37:00.360
real quick and kind of come and go so that's

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.159
something that i'm interested in knowing about

00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.039
is is that common what is that like and then

00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.159
um do they think it's sustainable to be eating

00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.079
so little because that that genuinely is what

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.199
worries me is that it's it's overwhelming at

00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:15.920
this point it's not even like a few individuals

00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.800
it's almost every single one of them we talk

00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:24.280
to or we see barely eating and um OK, I don't

00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.840
I don't think that sustainable. So, I mean, look

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.860
great and look skinny as hell. And I kind of.

00:37:31.019 --> 00:37:33.139
Yeah. Are there days that I'm really envious

00:37:33.139 --> 00:37:36.519
because I I don't want to go on it and lose even

00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.719
more weight? Yeah. But do I think it would benefit

00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.820
me? No. Do I think I need to figure out how to

00:37:42.820 --> 00:37:45.599
do this myself? Yes. But with that being said,

00:37:45.659 --> 00:37:48.599
as I. Turn the corner on looking at menopause

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down the road. Sure, if my hormones started getting

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way out of whack and I started rapidly gaining

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weight due to menopause, or if I was on medication

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causing me to gain a substantial amount of weight,

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I would absolutely be calling my fucking doctor

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and saying, OK, let's do this because I can't

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lose the weight on my own at this point. It's

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a huge struggle. But the difference is I have

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a huge. like it's a tool for me. I have a huge

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background of what I would know I need to do.

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So I would take this and continue my bariatric

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strength training, walking, eating, meal prepping,

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you know, like to go with it. But next week.

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Two -part episode. We bring the guest on. We're

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going to ask her all these questions. So please,

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on social, let us know. What are your biggest

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questions about GLP -1s? What are your biggest

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.659
misconceptions about GLP -1s? What concerns you

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about them? We want to make sure we answer and

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talk about everything you guys want. And maybe

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she can answer some of these things that we've

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talked about today and maybe put some of our

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concerns or fears to rest. But two -part episode

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next week. Guest on who is on a GLP -1 currently.

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And we're going to ask her. all about it and

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see what she, you know, what she thinks. And

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we're going to ask the tough questions. Love

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it. Can't wait. I can't wait either. Like always,

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Steph, thanks for joining me and for everybody

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listening. Thank you so much. Stay tuned for

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part two next week. Love it. Thanks guys. Bye

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everybody. Bye.