Episode 28: TikTok vs. Reality: Separating Bariatric Facts from Fiction

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Hey Steph. Hello. Welcome to another episode

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of Bariatric Banter Podcast. Here we go. 28 to

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8. My goodness. I know. Still here, still doing

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it, still loving it. And the shorter format is

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working so much better for us, which is great.

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Today, we're going to have our phones with us

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because we're doing a really, I think, fun, but

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also probably spicy episode. But I'm pumped about,

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you know, I'm pumped about this one. It's going

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to get good. We're going to do what TikTok gets

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right and more importantly, gets wrong about

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bariatric life. So yeah, it's kind of going to

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be like a reaction style discussion on viral

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weight loss trends and topics on TikTok. I think

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with the rise of social media in general, it's

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kind of important to talk about these things.

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For sure. And especially with, as we've said

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so many times, the lack of resources out there.

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So many people are turning to social media to

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do their research before the surgery. I certainly

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did. Thank goodness I had Hannah to reel me in.

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But social media is a huge... resource that people

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use when they're looking at all sorts of things

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health and wellness related right and exactly

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it's funny because i was actually listening to

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a podcast today um for part of my drive to hannah's

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about it was with the one trainer from the body

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program i'm doing right now two trainers but

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the guy that's doing this program and he was

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talking about you have to be really careful when

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you're looking on social media for health and

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wellness information because between ai and the

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fact that people can say whatever the hell they

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want you have to take what you see there with

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a grain of salt and you have to double check

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things and not just rely on one source or one

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person for your information. And it's very easy

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on things like TikTok to get pulled down that

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rabbit hole. So you need to be careful. That

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being said, there is some great stuff out there.

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So we just want to bring a little bit of awareness

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to what that looks like and what we've seen.

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exactly and like it's not all bad so you know

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you know there there is some that most certainly

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is Stay away. I'm going to need to fake TikTok

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to go look at some of these creators. But yeah,

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I think it's just, and we are no experts. We

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are not the moral authority or the ethical authority

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or, you know, TikTok's queens over here. But

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I just think in our early days and in our journey,

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it's important for us to highlight maybe what

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we did not find beneficial and helpful and what

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actually ended up being detrimental, but also

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who's been absolutely amazing. Who's been somebody

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that we love following, that we'll continue to

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follow. some things to like always keep in mind

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when you're looking at social media things that

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i think you know to me maybe think i think of

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them as common sense but i realize i work in

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tech and social i'm in this field all the time

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and it's not always common sense so yep you know

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things like how to how to actually look at tick

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tocks and stuff on social and realize it's it's

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usually a tiny percentage of their entire life

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you're filling in the gaps and you're not always

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filling them in accurately so just remember what

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you're seeing is Usually not accurate, even from

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the best intention to people. It is curated for

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social for a reason. The majority of people are

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putting their best self on social media, the

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portions of their day, the best parts of their

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day. A lot of people, and there are some who

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do, but a lot of people are not sharing the nitty

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gritty, the downfalls, the negatives, the darker

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side, we'll say. So that's really important is

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it's not all. roses and rainbows and sunshine

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there are challenges and there are hard days

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and there are things that you will need to overcome

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so I think that's a big one is yes we've talked

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about the surgery itself being easier than we

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anticipated in terms of the physical element

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of it the surgery itself but it's not all easy

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and like I said sunshine and rainbows so a lot

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of times you only see the good stuff and that's

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great we want people to see the positives yes

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because there's so much goodness here keep in

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mind that there's a lot of things that these

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people are going through that you're not seeing

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or things that they're eating that you're not

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seeing so that's I think that's a big one for

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me interesting things that they're lying about

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oh my gosh yeah Like when you see them eating

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a bunch of junk and then they say, I went to

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my doctor's office and I told my doctor what

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I'm eating and they said it was fine. I know

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who you're talking about. I have to call total

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bullshit because I can guarantee you that if

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you went to your doctor's office and told them

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that you were eating seafood boils and Dunkin'

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Donuts and Doritos at lunch. mozzarella sticks

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and going out to Chili's all the time for your

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triple -decker whatever, I can guarantee you

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that your doctor would say, hey, maybe you need

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to rein that in a little bit. That's probably

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not okay. They're not here to shame you, but

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at some point they need to be like... that's

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not okay and if you're excluding telling them

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things you know it's not okay 100 and did did

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we see the video of their doctor's appointment

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no we just saw them afterwards at home being

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like oh yeah oh it was fine oh yeah and it's

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like no no you didn't you did not because no

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doctor in the right mind would be like this is

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totally okay and i know exactly who you're talking

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about And I think that's where, and you've heard

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us say, like, we're not trying to be preachy

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or on a high horse here because we do things

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that lots of bariatric people would be like,

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what the hell? Like people are super against

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ketchup. People are against straws. Carbonation.

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People would be angry about not doing enough

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weightlifting and doing too much cardio. Like

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I get it. There are definitely things that, and

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whatever, we're on social. We've opened ourselves

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up for that. I'm not going to sit here and be

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like, we are not allowed to be criticized or

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have people have opinions about us. That's the

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price you pay when you put your story and yourself

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out there. Don't condone hate. You don't go and.

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actively tear people down no but it is okay to

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ask questions um the problem I have with some

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of those people too is like they'll say things

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like well I know a friend of a friend who doesn't

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take any of their vitamins and they're totally

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fine so I'm not going to take my vitamins and

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it's like yeah this is terrible don't put that

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out on the internet because people will hear

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things on the internet and go well I heard this

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influencer say she doesn't take them and she

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knows two people who don't take them so in the

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rule of social, that means that everybody in

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the world isn't taking them. And I'm totally

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fine to do that too. Right. And it's like, there

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was an influencer, big Chris or something. I

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can't remember her name, but she passed away

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recently, which is horrific. And it was because

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she wasn't eating properly and wasn't taking

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her vitamins. And I'm not trying to scare anybody

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by saying that, but that was literally the cause.

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She documented it from the hospital that she

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was on a feeding tube and her organs were failing

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and that she took full responsibility. that she

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should have listened and she wasn't paying enough

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attention and she should have done what she was

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told to do unfortunately she she didn't she didn't

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survive which is horrific but that's why like

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i don't care if so -and -so's friend of a friend

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of a cousin of a relative did it and they're

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fine that's not your body and that's not your

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life so like please Listen to your team. Social

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is a great place to help with like meal prepping

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or questions like, should I have surgery for

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my loose skin? Like, hey, did you have this happen?

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Did you ever have the phantom pain in your incision?

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How are you hitting your calorie count? Like,

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that's great. Where you shouldn't be listening

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on social is when they tell you not to eat something,

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not to take your vitamins, not to follow through

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with things. It's like. Or it's okay to have

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McDonald's two weeks after surgery. Oh, it is.

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Listen, is McDonald's okay? Sure. I've had a

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kid's meal. I literally cannot. I've had nuggets.

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I've had it. But like two weeks after surgery?

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No. No. And like we've seen that too, right?

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Where every now and then we go down a rabbit

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hole that just kind of depresses us a little.

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Like we're not even really. mad at these people

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or judging them, we feel bad for them because

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they're clearly struggling. And I wish that they

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had a bigger support system. Like I wish that

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they talked more to their doctors or they talked

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more to other people because someone needs to

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tell them that like three months post gastric

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bypass, you shouldn't be eating McDonald's. And

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that's a full size burger, by the way, double

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patty burger. As I said, that's a McDouble right

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there. Yeah. And just because you can doesn't

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mean you should. And the fact that people rely

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on this as valid and accurate information, that's

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what gets me, right? That's what drives me nuts.

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Whether you want to admit it or whether that's

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why you're doing it or not, you are influencing

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people. There are people out there who are relying

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on your content to give them information and

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teach them. Should they do more research than

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just that? Yes. Is the onus on them too? Yes.

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You are out there and you are basically saying,

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hey guys, this is what I'm doing and it's fine.

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And other people are seeing that and saying,

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oh, well, if she's doing it, then I can do it.

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And that is where I have issue is that these,

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a lot of these people aren't putting, we'll say

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like almost like disclaimers out there. They're

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not saying, hey guys, you know, just because

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I'm choosing to do this doesn't mean you should

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or, and they're trying to say that. This is part

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of their program or that this has been okayed

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by their. It has not been. And I can guarantee

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you that is all a lie. And so that's what concerns

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me is you're getting all of these people out

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there who are doing these things and they're

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choosing to make. bad decisions and that's on

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them that is on them but when other people you

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see the comments coming in of oh my gosh I'm

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so glad I'm not alone and I'm so I feel so validated

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because you're doing this and that's that's the

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scary part yeah and I think one of the biggest

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things that well first of all like the amount

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of people in the comments being like it's so

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great to see a real person and this is so amazing

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and thank you I think what I want to stress is

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that's not a what you're looking for is an excuse

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to go back to your old eating habits. Like you

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are looking for somebody to give you the right

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to just eat whatever you want to eat. And the

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thing is, um, that's not what you should be looking

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for. So I. I get really annoyed when I see these

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people that are clearly either not in the surgery

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program at all or in it and very early days.

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And in the nicest way possible, I can tell that

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you're struggling to lose weight and you're in

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there being like, thank you for being so real.

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I can't wait to have a Big Mac and I can't wait

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to eat like this. I'm like, you're actually telling

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what real life is like, like this is how we're

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going to eat and it's totally fine and we're

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still going to lose weight. And it's like. it's

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not though like the whole point of surgery is

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not that oh but you can eat that stuff it's that

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you shouldn't want to eat that anymore because

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that's what led you where you are today like

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fast food occasionally and i mean like once or

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twice a year great you should not be eating fast

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food after surgery every single day it should

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not be in your diet every day the whole point

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of this was that you have to give up that crutch

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and that relationship fast food is never going

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to be good for you you can fit it into a diet

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every now and then but like you okay you can

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get a breakfast burrito at mcdonald's the little

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tiny snack wrap one that's 290 calories or you

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could literally make scrambled eggs and a tortilla

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and some sausage at home for like 200 calories

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and five times as much protein. You have to make

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better choices. But it's really infuriating when

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I see the comments being like, oh, fuck the haters.

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Like, this is so real. And we love, you know,

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we love that they're showing real life. And it's

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like, no, you love that they're showing you that

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you don't have to change your life at all and

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that you're going to be allowed to eat whatever

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you want to eat. You know, you aren't praising

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the people who are making homemade food, cutting,

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you know. the fatty stuff out, working on like

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incorporating real whole foods. Like the other

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thing that's crazy is when people are like, why

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would you have surgery to go back to eating like

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this? Like, why aren't you making changes? And

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the response is I am making changes. I would

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have eaten this whole burrito before surgery.

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Now I only have half. I would have eaten the

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whole thing of Tex -Mex fries from Taco Bell,

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but now I only have half. And it's like, girl.

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No, that's not success. These are the people

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who we've talked about it where they do think

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this is a magic pill and they do think that,

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well, all I have to do is have surgery. I can

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still eat the same crap I ate and I'm going to

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lose weight. And we've talked about this, that

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in the beginning, yeah, you will lose weight

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because even the people who are still eating

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the junk and are eating less, they're still eating

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less than they were before. So they are going

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to lose weight. However, is it going to be sustainable?

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No. Are they going to lose as much? No. Are they

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being healthy? No. Are they getting their nutrients

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in? No. Are they going to be able to sustain

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weight loss long term? No. So yeah, they're losing

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weight. So they're thinking, sweet, I can still

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eat all this crap and I'm still losing weight.

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Well, yeah, that first year, as the surgeon says,

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that is a gift from them to you because you could

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do dick all and lose weight because you physically

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can't eat as much. But that's not. the point

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of the surgery that is not going to set you up

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for success long term and that's why we see so

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much regain and that's why the statistics are

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so high and it's we've talked about it It's not

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the easy way out. It's not the magic pill. But

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you do get these people that think, well, okay,

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I'm just going to go have surgery. I can keep

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living my same life I want to eat and it's going

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to solve everything. It's not because your restriction

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will go away. You will have more capacity to

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eat. You're not doing anything about your mindset.

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Yeah. And that's where so much of this comes

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into play. And so, again, you're having these

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people who are seeing the videos thinking, well,

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shit. Yeah. I could have this surgery and still

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do all these things. Sign me up. Well, that's

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sadly not how it works. And you're not getting

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the full picture. You're not getting the realistic

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view of. what this is going to look like for

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you one year down the road, two years down the

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road. You're not thinking about it. And that's

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what people are trying to say in these comments.

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But my God, they come for people in the comments.

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Heaven forbid you suggest they cut back on the

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processed food. Or even I've seen comments where

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people have made suggestions of other options

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at that fast food location. So you can tell they're

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still trying to be nice about it. And I did see

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somebody was eating the McDouble or whatever.

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And somebody in the comments said, why don't

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you try the nugget? because they're less calories.

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Or the junior burger. Yeah, and people came at

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them like, she can get whatever she wants. How

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dare you tell her what to order? She's still

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hitting all her goals and she's still losing

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weight and it shows what you know. Or the people

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who are like, it's just calories in and calories

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out. Yeah, I get that. but it's also fat in and

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it's sodium in and it's cholesterol in like,

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like the labs are going to be atrocious. But

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also the point of surgery is not just that you

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can eat what you want and still lose weight.

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What nobody seems to remember is the weight gain

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after the 12 month mark is critical. Like we're

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not talking five or 10%. It's over 35 % of people

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will regain more than they lost. Like more than

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when you started. And it's because of this. And

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also, You should not be bragging three months

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post -op that you're eating 1500 calories and

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like able to eat all that. Like it, people seem

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to think that you're going to have this surgery

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and magically wake up and your body will reject

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anything that you're not supposed to have. That's

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not how it works. Wouldn't that be amazing? That's

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not how it works. Like you're supposed to spend

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the first year, which they called the magic year

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for a reason, trying to rewire your brain to

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get off of high fat, high sodium, high sugar.

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make more at home, really pay attention to what

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goes into your body and try to make better choices

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that isn't, I'm going to eat out junk every day.

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And then they try to come on TikTok and act like,

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well, today I had fruit and bubble, like, oh

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God, they'll come on and have like a good day

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of eating, right? In between the week of nonstop

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fast food all the time. And people in the comments

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will be like, I see that the haters have nothing

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to say about like when you're eating good food

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and, you know, doing the right thing. And it's

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like, cause that's once a month that there's

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a video about that. Right. Like it's, and I also

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find that there's a lot lately about like competition

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mindset of how much people can eat. Oh God. So

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like, yeah, like I'm three weeks post -op and

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I can eat a junior cheeseburger from McDonald's.

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Well, I'm three weeks post -op and I can eat

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a six piece nugget set. Like, first of all, again,

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don't eat the shit. Also, you're still supposed

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to be on, like, purees. So let's tone that back

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a little bit. Oh, but I don't follow the rules.

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Right. But my body can handle it. That's what

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I'm saying. I'm not good at rule following. But

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this whole, like, I can eat this much, I can

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eat this much, it's not a freaking contest, people.

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It is not. It drives me bananas. It drives me

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batshit. There's days, and, like, there was,

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not yesterday. The day before, I think it was,

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when like I barely ate all day. Not because I

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didn't want to, because I physically couldn't.

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It was high restriction. It just happens. There's

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certain days where your stomach just says, hell

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no. Oh my God, yeah. I don't want anything in

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here. Leave me alone. Yep. And you have three

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bites of something and you feel like you've eaten

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three pounds of something. Oh yeah. And then

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the next day, all day, all your stomach is saying

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is. give me more, give me more, give me more,

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bring it on, let's go. And it just happens. And

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so there are some days where you can eat a shit

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ton. There's some days where you can eat nothing.

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And it varies. And everybody's different at different

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points. Like there's guidelines, right? That,

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okay, at this point, you should be eating a quarter

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cup. At this point, you should be eating this

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many ounces. But there's no set rules of... You

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have to be at this point by this time. And it

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doesn't make you better if you can eat more than

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the person who's at the same point as you. It's

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not a contest. It's not a race. Stop trying to

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brag and show how much you can eat. Because again,

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you're going to get people who can't reach that.

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And they're going to think, oh my gosh, I'm so

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far behind or I'm not where I need to be. They're

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going to push themselves to try and match you.

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And they're going to damage, do damage to themselves

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physically and mentally. This is a marathon.

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This is not a sprint. And there's so many people

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out there. And I don't know. I'm wondering. Like

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a lot of the content we see around surgery on

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TikTok is American. And so we've talked about

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how their programs are vastly different than

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Canada. Very different. And so I don't know if

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part of this is because they don't have the same

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education in their program that we get. They

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don't have the same resources. I don't know what

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it is. I would think that plays a part. It has

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to, right? I would think so. We've said this

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to each other before. Like this has to be part

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of the reason. And we're not trying to shit on

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Americans here in any way. Their programs are

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just different. They're just. but like even then

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there was that one influencer who secretly recorded

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her doctor's appointment and he seemed pretty

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like on the ball with like you need to do this

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you need to do that like right I think a lot

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of people are lying to their doctors about things

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but yeah okay here's a great I don't know like

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see I go back and forth on like I think it's

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the education system for sure but then I can't

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think of her name but you know the girl she drinks

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drag up coffee a lot she's so awesome and remember

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she gained a couple of pounds trophy queen trophy

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queen I love Kofi Queen. She's awesome. So she's

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an American and it sounds like she's got really

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good resources and help, but like - She has long

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-term follow -up appointments that we don't have.

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Oh, we don't even have those. So like, I think

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it depends on what state you're into. But the

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other thing I remember, and like, again, I'm

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really not trying to offend anyone. So my mom

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was a nurse in the States for 30 plus years,

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you know, cross border. We lived in Canada. We

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didn't live in the States. And one thing she

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said was, because I remember she would say it

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often, oh my God, they eat out for everything.

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breakfast, lunch, dinner, everything is eaten

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out. They rarely cook at home. And I know that's

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not all of them at all. I'm painting with a very

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broad brush here, but it was very big in the

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culture that your breakfast, lunch, and dinner

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was all fast food. So I think that's also a big

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thing is that it's really hard for a lot, because

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a lot of American TikTokers that we don't agree

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with that have had surgery are eating takeout

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a month post -op. Even a lot of bariatric TikTokers

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in general, a lot of their what I eat in a day,

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there's takeout in it. So I think that's like

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a cultural thing there. But like at least a lot

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of them are making better choices, like the kale

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salad and the grilled nuggets from Chick -fil

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-A. I was going to say grilled nuggets, yeah.

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Which like I actually want to try. Or getting

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just the meatballs from Subway. I kind of want

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to try that too. Me too. Like at least they're

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making better choices. I'm shocked and concerned

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by the ones that are just eating full on cheeseburgers

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and burritos and fries. Like boy. So like if

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it was once a day, I could get over it. But it's

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like the whole day is eating out. But I think

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it's an American thing. Like, and again, I'm

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not trying to knock anybody. Like, it's just

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not a thing here that you would eat out all the

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time here. And it was like eating out was like

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a special thing. We don't have as many restaurants

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and chains as they do. We don't have a lot of

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like fast, casual places to eat. Like, do I get

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a coffee? Sure. Like I had a Starbucks coffee

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this morning, but it's a. espresso over ice with

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nothing in it that I add a protein coffee to.

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Have I had nuggets at McDonald's? Yeah. Well,

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I have. I was on a road trip and had no option.

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That's just it, right? It's one of those things

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where you're out and about, you don't have an

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option. So that's just it, right? You get the

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four -piece nugget and you have three, like I

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can't finish a four -piece nugget. You're further

00:21:05.049 --> 00:21:08.230
than me, right? But that's just it, right? So

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when you aren't, we're not saying never eat the

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fast food and never go out for dinner. Make the

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better choices. And there's a time and place

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for everything. I've deleted my delivery apps

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because it became a really big crutch, especially

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in the first year. I was like, oh, you know what

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would be great? Like chicken wings. They're high

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in protein and blah, blah, blah. And I was like,

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you know what's going to happen? This is going

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to turn into a really slippery slope. And I did.

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I stopped myself because especially in my second

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year, I went to place an order. And I was like,

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well, I'm going to have this like chicken bowl.

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And then you know what? I'm going to get the

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guacamole with the chips because like that would

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be really good. And like I went back into like

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old obese Hannah ordering habits where I'd have

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to get a meal, an appetizer, a dessert. And I

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remember this bag arrived at my house and I went.

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What did I do? What the fuck is the matter with

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you? Like, first of all, would I eat all of that?

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No. But would I eat it over a few days? Maybe.

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Did I really need any of that? Absolutely not.

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Like if I want a guacamole, I could make some

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guacamole and like portion it out. And I didn't

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order anything overtly terrible, but like restaurants

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in general are going to be bad. This chicken

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bowl with just chicken and grilled vegetables

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was 900 calories because of how it was cooked

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and the rice and the mayo. And so I had kind

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of a wake up moment where I looked at this bag

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of food and went, first of all, what are you

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doing? What are you doing? Like this is like,

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and delivery apps have made it way too easy to

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fall off the wagon. And like you convince yourself,

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we'll do a whole episode on food noise, but like

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you convince yourself you need to eat all of

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that. Like it's very easy to come into your own

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head and go, you know what? My blood sugar is

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really low because I've been feeling a bit off.

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I worked out really hard today. So I think it's

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okay if I just have like some ice cream or a

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treat, you know, and I'll just have it delivered

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and it's fine. It catches up with you. very quickly

00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.180
and um yeah i have like a weird sinus thing going

00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:58.720
on you can hear it in most of the episodes we

00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:00.650
can't really figure it out but it's led me to

00:23:00.650 --> 00:23:02.309
be a little dizzy. And I remember the doctor

00:23:02.309 --> 00:23:04.109
saying, oh, let's start watching your blood sugar.

00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:05.890
Like maybe you're just having blood sugar dips,

00:23:06.069 --> 00:23:08.430
which like you have PCOS and blah, blah, blah.

00:23:08.450 --> 00:23:10.410
It'd be super normal if that's what's causing

00:23:10.410 --> 00:23:12.890
this. It's very easy to then have that voice

00:23:12.890 --> 00:23:15.569
in your head go, Hannah, I think maybe your blood

00:23:15.569 --> 00:23:17.470
sugar's low and like you should go have a donut

00:23:17.470 --> 00:23:19.869
or a cookie or you know what? I think you should

00:23:19.869 --> 00:23:21.450
keep more sweets in the house because you've

00:23:21.450 --> 00:23:24.410
been so good having such low sugar. Maybe it's

00:23:24.410 --> 00:23:27.309
like too low sugar. And I remember telling him

00:23:27.309 --> 00:23:29.359
in one of our appointments like, oh, I put some

00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:31.680
more sodium back in my diet because like my sodium

00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:33.539
was kind of like on the lower end. So like I've

00:23:33.539 --> 00:23:36.319
started adding more and he goes, no, it wasn't.

00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.240
I don't really want you adding more sodium. And

00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.759
I was like, yeah, but I thought that was like

00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:42.380
kind of on the lower end. He was like, it's not,

00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:44.480
it's normal. Like that's where I want it to be.

00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.259
Like don't go adding it. But it's very easy to

00:23:47.259 --> 00:23:49.299
convince yourself that you're feeling a bit off.

00:23:49.299 --> 00:23:51.380
We can make excuses for everything. Yep. So I

00:23:51.380 --> 00:23:53.519
delete the, I delete the ordering apps off my

00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.359
phone. If I'm hungry enough and I want it, I'll

00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:57.380
get in the car or I'll walk my fat little leggies

00:23:57.380 --> 00:23:59.859
down somewhere and get it. But like, this is

00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:01.680
my problem with TikTok mainly. There's a lot

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:03.460
of other things, not food related, but the biggest

00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:06.339
one is whatever someone else is doing, please

00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:08.779
remember it's, probably a lie or a fraction of

00:24:08.779 --> 00:24:10.599
their day. Even the ones that are absolutely

00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.079
lovely and amazing and showing you things. Remember,

00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:15.940
we all struggle with body dysmorphia, with being

00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:18.319
enough, with doing enough, with eating, you know,

00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.259
like no one is actually out here being like,

00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.299
this is my actual day. Because if they did, there

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:24.220
would be failure and there'd be missteps and

00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:27.150
people would come for us and criticize us. We

00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:29.069
don't comment on these TikToks, even though we

00:24:29.069 --> 00:24:30.950
talk about them here. We're not going to add

00:24:30.950 --> 00:24:32.910
to the hate and the shit. And we don't call them

00:24:32.910 --> 00:24:34.750
out. We don't. But I do agree with some of the

00:24:34.750 --> 00:24:36.869
comments that are politely saying, why would

00:24:36.869 --> 00:24:38.609
you have this surgery if you're not going to

00:24:38.609 --> 00:24:41.210
actually put the effort in? But again, like,

00:24:41.230 --> 00:24:42.869
that's why a lot of people don't show you their

00:24:42.869 --> 00:24:44.849
day to day because comments aren't always like

00:24:44.849 --> 00:24:46.809
that. Comments are like, you fat pig. And how

00:24:46.809 --> 00:24:48.950
dare you? You fucking suck. And some people just

00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:51.970
don't want to see that. But like, I have missteps.

00:24:52.029 --> 00:24:54.009
People would come for me for my ketchup. People

00:24:54.009 --> 00:24:55.509
would come for me because every now and then

00:24:55.509 --> 00:24:57.309
I have some, like, I have the little mini spring

00:24:57.309 --> 00:25:00.269
rolls from President's Choice. And I'm like,

00:25:00.329 --> 00:25:02.250
sometimes I want to have two chicken spring rolls.

00:25:02.269 --> 00:25:05.890
Like, get off my dick. But I get that, like.

00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:08.400
If you choose to be out there though, and putting

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.200
this out there without the disclaimer of like,

00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.460
don't copy me. My body is not your body. I'm

00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:15.420
just sharing what's working for me without actually

00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:18.200
telling people. But like the worst ones are the,

00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:21.019
are almost more arrogant. Yes. That are like,

00:25:21.099 --> 00:25:22.880
well, whatever it works for me. I can do what

00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.400
I want. Like, I remember the one who knows that

00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.960
I talk about her because she made a post being

00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:29.619
like, I can't look her stuff up because she's

00:25:29.619 --> 00:25:31.079
going to see that. I can't look her up anymore

00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:33.500
because she knows, she knows I was referencing

00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:37.210
her, but like. Very, very, very, very literally

00:25:37.210 --> 00:25:39.609
out of surgery. Like I think maybe a month post

00:25:39.609 --> 00:25:42.789
-op of surgery, drinking a full sugar, full size

00:25:42.789 --> 00:25:46.130
iced coffee from a popular fast food restaurant.

00:25:46.250 --> 00:25:48.869
I looked it up. It's got over 22 grams of sugar

00:25:48.869 --> 00:25:53.650
in it, which is a lot. But I just remember saying

00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:55.950
on one of our episodes or on one of my TikTok

00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:58.960
videos. why would you do this when you know you're

00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:00.960
not supposed to? At least tell people just so

00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.359
you know you're not supposed to do this, but

00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.920
I chose to anyway. But instead, the answer, when

00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.420
people politely said, how are you allowed to

00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:11.519
have this? The response was, I didn't have the

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.500
surgery to not enjoy things anymore. And it's

00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:17.700
like, that's the wrong way to paint this because

00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:20.730
what you should have said was. I really like

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:22.589
these coffees. I wanted to see if I could handle

00:26:22.589 --> 00:26:24.369
it. I do recommend you don't do this because

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:26.109
it's high sugar. Maybe next time I should try

00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:28.329
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's this mentality

00:26:28.329 --> 00:26:30.849
of I'm not going to restrict myself. I'm going

00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:32.569
to have what I want. And I'm not changing my

00:26:32.569 --> 00:26:35.069
life. Gaslighting where you're trying to like

00:26:35.069 --> 00:26:38.130
convince yourself that like by somehow giving

00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:41.529
up a 22 gram sugar iced coffee, you're being.

00:26:42.970 --> 00:26:44.849
the man has got you. Well, you're being punished

00:26:44.849 --> 00:26:48.049
or like, woe is you or that's diet culture. And

00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:51.170
the truth is it's not. Consuming that is actually

00:26:51.170 --> 00:26:53.869
the bad culture and the bad influence on society.

00:26:54.069 --> 00:26:57.029
Nobody needs a 22 gram of sugar drink. And that's

00:26:57.029 --> 00:26:59.190
the thing. If you are really struggling post

00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:01.630
-surgery to give things up, I get it. It's normal.

00:27:01.690 --> 00:27:04.410
It's hard. But then you know what? Maybe instead

00:27:04.410 --> 00:27:07.890
of the venti, get the tall. Yeah. Right? So,

00:27:07.890 --> 00:27:12.410
and we've said, we've said too, like, We don't

00:27:12.410 --> 00:27:14.809
want to get in that diet mentality and that diet

00:27:14.809 --> 00:27:16.890
culture. This is a lifestyle change. And that

00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:19.069
we still want to live our life. We still want

00:27:19.069 --> 00:27:21.910
to enjoy things. We still want to have food we

00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:24.569
love. And that we have even said, you know, when

00:27:24.569 --> 00:27:27.750
you say you can't have this, our obese brain

00:27:27.750 --> 00:27:30.670
goes, oh, watch me. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. And

00:27:30.670 --> 00:27:33.250
I will have five servings of it. Yes, I will.

00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:36.839
We're not saying don't have it. Just make better

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.279
choices. And that's just it. Say, you know what,

00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.599
guys? I know this isn't the best choice, but

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.420
this is what I am doing for myself. Or, hey,

00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.119
guys, what could I do differently? Because I

00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:47.740
think the sugar is really high on this. But I

00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:49.819
really like it. Do you have recommendations?

00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.630
Do you have thoughts? Just be a bit humble. I

00:27:53.630 --> 00:27:55.869
don't know. I'm not out here bragging about severely

00:27:55.869 --> 00:27:59.009
breaking the rules. Like, yes, I use a straw.

00:27:59.089 --> 00:28:01.109
That's great. But I think what worries me about

00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:03.569
TikTok is they are overtly trying to convince

00:28:03.569 --> 00:28:05.730
you that this is fine and that you're the problem.

00:28:06.009 --> 00:28:08.509
And the amount of people blowing smoke up their

00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:10.710
ass, that it's totally great to see a real person.

00:28:10.869 --> 00:28:13.849
Like, that's not real for bariatric surgery,

00:28:14.049 --> 00:28:15.750
though. Like, that's not going to be great. And

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:17.549
yeah, they need to learn and have missteps and

00:28:17.549 --> 00:28:22.299
figure it out. I don't know. It's almost in how

00:28:22.299 --> 00:28:24.839
they handle the misstep. Like it's how arrogant

00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.400
and rude and, and annoying they are when somebody

00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.519
says, shouldn't you not be doing this though?

00:28:31.700 --> 00:28:34.660
Right. And then there's people, there's people,

00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:38.519
I saw a person who again, like, yeah, not following

00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.059
the rules, eating junk, eating stuff they shouldn't

00:28:41.059 --> 00:28:43.359
be. And then we're so I'm going to get called

00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.420
out for this. I already know. But I'm not saying

00:28:46.420 --> 00:28:51.259
your name. So whatever. Then doing a video on

00:28:51.259 --> 00:28:54.400
hair loss. And don't get me wrong, guys. My hair

00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.220
was falling out in clumps and I was terrified

00:28:56.220 --> 00:28:59.940
and I would cry and I was worried. And it's horrible

00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:04.099
to deal with. But this person is like a month

00:29:04.099 --> 00:29:07.420
or two out. They should not be having hair loss

00:29:07.420 --> 00:29:10.220
yet. Yeah, that's early. It's supposed to start

00:29:10.220 --> 00:29:12.299
around six -ish months. Mine started at about

00:29:12.299 --> 00:29:17.200
five and a bit. The average is six -ish, five

00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.759
-ish. It can't be three. But this was drastic.

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.660
And they were really upset about it. And I get

00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:27.019
it because it is a part of the surgery that they

00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:29.990
kind of skip over. And your hair is, for a lot

00:29:29.990 --> 00:29:32.029
of people, a big part of their identity, right?

00:29:32.269 --> 00:29:33.589
Oh, I struggled so badly with this. And I remember

00:29:33.589 --> 00:29:35.970
being in the shower and crying. Yeah, I cried

00:29:35.970 --> 00:29:38.609
to my mom. Yeah. And so I totally get where they're

00:29:38.609 --> 00:29:42.890
coming from. And I feel their pain. But that

00:29:42.890 --> 00:29:46.150
early on, you shouldn't be having that severe

00:29:46.150 --> 00:29:48.690
hair loss. And maybe that's an indication to

00:29:48.690 --> 00:29:51.950
you that, hey, something I'm doing isn't right.

00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:55.660
And again, in the comments, like... People got

00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:58.259
reamed for making that. And they're just trying

00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:00.019
to be helpful, right? They're just trying to

00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:03.039
say, hey, maybe this is an indication and maybe

00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.440
this is showing that something needs to be tweaked

00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.799
here. Something's missing. Something's not right.

00:30:09.019 --> 00:30:12.000
And use that as a learning experience and use

00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.579
that to reevaluate what you're doing versus getting

00:30:15.579 --> 00:30:18.339
all defensive and getting all uppity about it.

00:30:18.420 --> 00:30:20.420
And like I said, I totally feel the pain because

00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:23.829
I had many a cry sessions with my hair. I was

00:30:23.829 --> 00:30:26.490
so upset about it. But it's things like that

00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:29.390
where people are trying to be helpful. People

00:30:29.390 --> 00:30:30.990
are trying to say, hey, maybe this is a little

00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:34.730
bit of a red flag. And it's heaven forbid, heaven

00:30:34.730 --> 00:30:36.990
forbid you try to help somebody or give them

00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:41.210
a tip or an idea. God help you. And that was

00:30:41.210 --> 00:30:43.109
100 % coming through in that video. And I just

00:30:43.109 --> 00:30:44.769
remember thinking, this is a clear indication

00:30:44.769 --> 00:30:46.890
that something's not right. No, my hair loss

00:30:46.890 --> 00:30:50.390
started early in month three. Now, I will say

00:30:50.390 --> 00:30:53.839
I have like... thick ass hair. So it also was

00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.539
my summer shedding. So that was PCOS. Yeah. I

00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:58.180
have PCOS and summer shedding, but like thick

00:30:58.180 --> 00:31:00.240
hair, like I might as well be Greek how thick

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.099
my hair is. Um, it lightly started in month three,

00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:04.700
but it was month four. Cause I just went and

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:07.599
checked my Instagram month four. It just kicked

00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.160
off and it was alarmingly a lot now. The difference

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.000
between my surgery and your surgery was my multivitamins

00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.259
didn't start till month six. Because for some

00:31:17.259 --> 00:31:19.920
reason, back when I had surgery, multivitamins

00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.000
didn't start till the six month mark. So there

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.839
was a reason I entered it early. We know that's

00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.480
not the case with this influencer. They should

00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.279
be taking their vitamins and should be trying

00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.039
to aim for like super high protein. And if the

00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:33.819
hair loss has started before three months, that

00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:36.980
is quite concerning, especially if it is an alarming

00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:40.740
amount. It was extremely noticeable on the video.

00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:42.519
Which like, again, if you have thinning hair

00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.759
and like, I get it, I'm sorry. But the other

00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.950
thing is like people have a... If you want to

00:31:46.950 --> 00:31:48.490
put your stuff on social, people have a right

00:31:48.490 --> 00:31:51.250
to question it and you don't have to be a dick

00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:53.509
about it when responding. If you don't want people

00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:56.450
to question things, get off social media. I can't

00:31:56.450 --> 00:31:59.150
stand that. If you're not prepared for the comments,

00:31:59.349 --> 00:32:02.289
the criticism, the questioning, everything that

00:32:02.289 --> 00:32:04.230
comes with it, then don't put yourself out there.

00:32:04.289 --> 00:32:05.470
And Steph's right. Nobody was in there being

00:32:05.470 --> 00:32:07.630
like, ha ha ha, you deserve it or you're a horrible

00:32:07.630 --> 00:32:09.109
person. No, people were generally saying, hey,

00:32:09.210 --> 00:32:12.250
I think maybe this is a sign that this could

00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:14.049
have caused it. And like, why not just be humble

00:32:14.049 --> 00:32:16.519
enough to say, I really don't think it is. I

00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.880
spoke to my doctor. My doctor doesn't think it

00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.460
is, but I don't know. Maybe I should look into

00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:22.440
it. Like the other thing was like there was somebody

00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.400
and I don't know who, but somebody came in and

00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.039
left a comment on something. And this person

00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.220
snapped back quite shittily. And this person

00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:31.940
responded and said, well, I, you know, I've just

00:32:31.940 --> 00:32:33.960
been post -op for 23 years, but what the fuck

00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.160
do I know? And I was like, yeah, see, here's

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.299
the other thing. Simmer down. Start listening

00:32:39.299 --> 00:32:41.640
to people who've had success with bariatric surgery.

00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.299
I'm going to be nice. And like, I'm sorry, because

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:45.220
I know that this alienates Steph here slightly.

00:32:45.660 --> 00:32:48.400
If you haven't been post -op for a year. You

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.140
shouldn't be following that person for advice

00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:52.859
on how successful this will be. If you follow

00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:54.700
Steph, it should be because like, oh, I want

00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:56.380
to know what she did in the early days of what

00:32:56.380 --> 00:32:58.420
she bought or what. I can tell you what's working

00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:01.119
for me right now. And you can take note of that

00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.839
and you can use that as research. But don't take

00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.059
what I say as gospel. The people I followed,

00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:11.519
they're like one or two of them were baby bariatrics.

00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:13.799
to be honest. And it was more just like, what

00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.380
did they buy? And, you know, a few light ideas.

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:19.779
But most of the people I followed were two to

00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:23.279
10 years post -op because I needed to see. that

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.720
they succeeded. And so this is another large

00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.599
problem with TikTok I have. There's nothing wrong

00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.980
with watching the baby bariatrics. It's awesome.

00:33:30.059 --> 00:33:32.299
We're technically baby bariatrics. It's kind

00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:34.059
of cool to watch them go through their journey

00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:36.420
and see where they end up. However, the amount

00:33:36.420 --> 00:33:39.220
of people scooping this shit up like gospel and

00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:41.539
acting like this is exactly how it's supposed

00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:43.440
to be. And thank God, because this is exactly

00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.799
what I'm doing too. And it's like, hey, you know

00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.859
who you should go follow instead? Someone who's

00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:50.460
seen success with it. Because the amount of regain.

00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.099
From this surgery, I wish that I could paint

00:33:53.099 --> 00:33:55.079
this on a billboard and share it on these accounts

00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:56.880
or that there was a warning. Ridiculous. It's

00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.940
huge. So until these people have crossed the

00:33:58.940 --> 00:34:01.000
two -year mark and haven't regained anything,

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.079
and regaining five to 10 pounds is not what I

00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.140
mean by regain because there's tons of popular

00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.159
influencers that are five, six, seven years out

00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.679
who've regained. Profi Queen has been very open

00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.699
about gaining 10 pounds and then working to lose

00:34:13.699 --> 00:34:17.769
it. However... you need to follow people that

00:34:17.769 --> 00:34:19.449
have had long -term success with this because

00:34:19.449 --> 00:34:21.210
they will tell you about the story. Like these

00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:23.130
people will not know anything about regain yet

00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:25.670
or the struggles of like gaining weight or that

00:34:25.670 --> 00:34:27.469
their eating choices have caught up with them.

00:34:27.530 --> 00:34:29.690
So just be very careful because if you start

00:34:29.690 --> 00:34:32.570
following them now, you don't know if they're

00:34:32.570 --> 00:34:34.269
going to be successful or not. And you might

00:34:34.269 --> 00:34:37.010
be throwing yourself way off. And there's going

00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:39.389
to be things that change. Like even through the

00:34:39.389 --> 00:34:42.210
eight months that I've been doing this and on

00:34:42.210 --> 00:34:44.440
this journey. Things have changed. Things that

00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.119
worked for me at one point don't work anymore.

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.019
Things that didn't work, work now. I've changed

00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:52.619
my maybe attitude or thoughts on certain things.

00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:57.099
So you have to follow somebody, either follow

00:34:57.099 --> 00:34:59.239
them through a good length of their journey to

00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.960
see that, or like Hannah said, go to somebody

00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:03.880
who has been through the ups and downs. They've

00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.500
been through the challenges and they have proven

00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:09.340
what works and what doesn't. And so, yeah, like

00:35:09.340 --> 00:35:13.449
I... don't take what I say as gospel, but take

00:35:13.449 --> 00:35:15.670
it as, hey, this is what worked for Steph. I'm

00:35:15.670 --> 00:35:17.429
going to take note of that. Or this is what,

00:35:17.429 --> 00:35:19.449
you know, Steph and Hannah recommend. I'm going

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:20.889
to keep a mental note of that. I'm going to try

00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:22.250
it, see if it works for me. And it might not

00:35:22.250 --> 00:35:24.150
work for you. And it might not be the right thing

00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:25.750
for you. It might not be what your program says.

00:35:26.230 --> 00:35:29.329
But that's why it's important to do lots of research

00:35:29.329 --> 00:35:32.369
and look at lots of people and like double check

00:35:32.369 --> 00:35:34.070
what you're seeing. Steph is close enough to

00:35:34.070 --> 00:35:36.059
the one year mark that she can say. Here's what

00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:37.659
I've done over the last eight months to lead

00:35:37.659 --> 00:35:39.820
me to X amount of weight loss. I don't really

00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:41.139
know what you're learning from someone three

00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:43.119
months post -op. I like, and they're not, I'm

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:44.559
not trying to say don't watch them, but I'm just

00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.500
trying to say like, what are you learning from

00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:47.360
them? You're in the infancy of this journey.

00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.719
Yeah. They're still learning everything. There's

00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.900
some foolproofness to the first couple of months

00:35:51.900 --> 00:35:54.139
of this surgery. And it's been like, I've said

00:35:54.139 --> 00:35:56.659
it before too, when I documented early on, there

00:35:56.659 --> 00:35:58.739
were definitely things and choices I made that

00:35:58.739 --> 00:36:00.699
were really not great, but it was foolproof in

00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:03.760
the first year. So go nuts and have fun. But

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.789
like. just be cautious because we're just seeing

00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:09.650
such a rise in this. I don't follow the rules.

00:36:09.769 --> 00:36:11.969
I'm going to do what I want. Yeah. And it's because

00:36:11.969 --> 00:36:13.929
bariatric surgery is way more prevalent right

00:36:13.929 --> 00:36:16.630
now, which like I totally get. It's hugely on

00:36:16.630 --> 00:36:20.409
the rise. However, I think you will also start

00:36:20.409 --> 00:36:22.449
to see the rise of people saying it didn't, and

00:36:22.449 --> 00:36:24.590
like go on Reddit. It didn't work. It didn't

00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:26.809
work. It failed. It didn't work. It's not what

00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.289
everyone said it would be. And then unanimously

00:36:29.289 --> 00:36:31.900
on Reddit, the response is always. Well, I need

00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:33.420
you to tell me what you've been eating. What

00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:35.400
does your day actually look like? Because I hate

00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:36.900
to say it, but I think you failed. I bet you

00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:38.900
it's you. And like a lot of the times it is.

00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:40.840
Well, I got sick and I had mental health issues

00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.139
or somebody died or I lost my job. And life happens.

00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:46.000
Like I'm telling you. Just be honest about it.

00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:47.980
Life happens. When I got super sick, it derailed

00:36:47.980 --> 00:36:50.820
everything in my life. But just be honest about

00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:52.619
it. Yeah. And be like, I got to figure it out.

00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:55.679
And here we go. I don't know. I think TikTok

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.500
is great. I think there's a lot of great resources.

00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.420
And boy, we follow some incredible, amazing people,

00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.380
amazing women on there. Bypass Cass, Profi Queen.

00:37:05.179 --> 00:37:07.840
Kaylin Armstrong. Kaylin Armstrong. Love her.

00:37:07.860 --> 00:37:10.239
I even love like Flushed Away. Like Laura does

00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.480
a great job. And like some of them are getting

00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.679
better. There is a big influencer in this space

00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.300
who... you know, a few people started to kind

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:19.940
of realize something wasn't going right with

00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:21.679
the videos. Like, it looks like you're not eating

00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.519
and you're avoiding food. And like, sure enough,

00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:25.800
they came out and said, I've regained and I'm

00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.119
going through some stuff. And so that's the other

00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.300
thing to watch too, is I know we promote watching

00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:32.219
the biggies, the ones that have been around for

00:37:32.219 --> 00:37:34.579
a while, but they lie too sometimes. And they

00:37:34.579 --> 00:37:36.579
struggle too. They struggle. And like, you have

00:37:36.579 --> 00:37:38.980
to be critical of it because we would see videos

00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:41.340
and go, this is not a healthy video to put out

00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:43.320
where basically all they did was drink until

00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.579
2 p .m. and then have a few bites of something.

00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:47.880
And it was like, this is not healthy and they

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.860
should not be sharing this without a warning

00:37:49.860 --> 00:37:52.139
that says this was a high restriction day or

00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:54.519
I wasn't feeling good today. But don't put that

00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:56.380
out and say that this is a typical day of eating

00:37:56.380 --> 00:37:59.000
because it's not. And so that's the other thing,

00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.800
right? The ones that don't tell you they're on

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.900
GLP -1s and try to pretend that this is just

00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:05.679
what a normal eating day looks like. Yes, because

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.400
people like me will watch this and send messages

00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.059
to Steph saying, I'm eating way too much food.

00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:12.820
If this is how little they're eating five years

00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:14.659
post -op, I'm eating too much and I'm going to

00:38:14.659 --> 00:38:17.019
gain my weight. weight back. So that's just something

00:38:17.019 --> 00:38:19.340
to keep in mind too, that yes, we do recommend

00:38:19.340 --> 00:38:22.360
the more long -term successful ones, but watch

00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.719
everything with a grain of salt. You know, are

00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.130
they... eating too little and does that put up

00:38:27.130 --> 00:38:28.989
a red flag? Because eventually that influencer

00:38:28.989 --> 00:38:31.150
did come out and admit that they were eating

00:38:31.150 --> 00:38:32.750
less because they gained weight and then they

00:38:32.750 --> 00:38:35.750
went on a GLP -1 to fix it. Are they on Ozempic

00:38:35.750 --> 00:38:37.489
and maybe not telling you about it? Then their

00:38:37.489 --> 00:38:39.070
portion sizes will look different than yours

00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:41.590
because you're not on it. Just be critical of

00:38:41.590 --> 00:38:44.909
it. Talk to your doctor and do what your program

00:38:44.909 --> 00:38:47.170
tells you. At the end of the day, get inspiration

00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:50.150
from TikTok, get ideas, see what works for people,

00:38:50.349 --> 00:38:52.530
maybe spark some things you never thought of.

00:38:52.909 --> 00:38:54.889
tips and tricks, all of that kind of thing. But

00:38:54.889 --> 00:38:56.789
at the end of the day, your program is there

00:38:56.789 --> 00:38:59.389
for a reason. Your guidelines are there for a

00:38:59.389 --> 00:39:03.030
reason. Please follow them. As we've said before,

00:39:03.329 --> 00:39:05.730
it's not, yeah, some of it sucks and it's not

00:39:05.730 --> 00:39:07.469
there to make your life horrible. It's not there

00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:10.630
to punish you. It's there for a reason. Your

00:39:10.630 --> 00:39:13.130
body needs to heal. You need to build habits.

00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:15.230
There is a science and a reasoning behind it.

00:39:15.289 --> 00:39:19.050
So please just see, take what you see with a

00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:20.469
grain of salt and do what your doctor tells you.

00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.559
Follow your team. The amount of people that I

00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.460
see on TikTok too that say that they're not listening

00:39:26.460 --> 00:39:28.480
to them or doing what they want or they saw somebody

00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.360
else do it. So they're like one of these TikTok

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.760
people said, well, my friend doesn't take her

00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:34.360
multivitamins and my cousin doesn't take her

00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.000
multivitamins and they're fine. They're like

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.760
two years post -op and they're fine. So I'm not

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.869
taking mine either. Don't have the surgery if

00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:42.389
you're not going to change your eating habits

00:39:42.389 --> 00:39:44.230
and you're not going to take the vitamins. Don't

00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:46.010
do it. Because eventually that will catch up

00:39:46.010 --> 00:39:47.929
with them. They'll have organ failure. They'll

00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:50.530
be in the hospital. It will be major. If you

00:39:50.530 --> 00:39:53.030
get deficient, it is not easy to come back from

00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:55.010
that. This is not like, oh, I had a cold and

00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:57.309
it took two weeks to get back on track. Vitamin

00:39:57.309 --> 00:40:00.329
deficiency will just annihilate your body. It

00:40:00.329 --> 00:40:03.050
is not a joke. So that's why we have this episode.

00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.340
We have to stress. Some of this might seem funny

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:07.440
and train wrecky and like you can't look away

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.300
and oh, well, it's not harming anyone, so who

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:12.860
cares? There are people using this as their only

00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:15.300
source of education and it is dangerous because

00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:17.619
you are too early in this journey to understand

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:19.679
the damage that you're doing to your body. The

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.940
high cholesterol, the risk of heart attack, the

00:40:21.940 --> 00:40:24.500
risk of failing, the risk of regain, the damage

00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:28.260
that you're doing due to deficiencies. It can

00:40:28.260 --> 00:40:31.179
kill people. It's not a joke. Yep, it's real.

00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.219
Be cautious on social. And hopefully we start

00:40:34.219 --> 00:40:36.659
to see more of a rise in people on TikTok maybe

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:38.760
calling out this bad behavior instead of blowing

00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.940
it up. And I'd love to see a doctor or a dietician

00:40:41.940 --> 00:40:45.139
start to do a series about, here's why eating

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:47.480
like this, although you're still losing weight,

00:40:47.579 --> 00:40:50.739
is a really bad idea. So maybe we'll find a dietician

00:40:50.739 --> 00:40:52.800
or we'll find someone to be a guest and say,

00:40:52.940 --> 00:40:55.879
are we being too critical of these people? Um,

00:40:55.879 --> 00:40:58.380
or, you know, is it, is it really that bad to

00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.400
be eating like this after surgery? And I would

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.739
love to find a guest and if anybody would like

00:41:02.739 --> 00:41:04.719
to, you know, share, and I know it's going to

00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.159
be hard, I'd love to find someone who the surgery

00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.760
did not work for, who unfortunately has regained

00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.719
all their weight or who regained it and had to

00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:13.900
have revision. And I would love to talk to someone

00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:16.940
about how did you get there and how easy is it

00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:19.639
to actually get there? Right. Yeah. That'd be

00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.480
a good one too. We'll keep you guys updated on

00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.420
how it goes. Like always, Steph, thank you for

00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:25.539
joining me for today's episode. And for everybody

00:41:25.539 --> 00:41:27.659
that's a great listener, thank you for following

00:41:27.659 --> 00:41:30.360
along and we will see you next week. Bye. Bye,

00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:30.679
everybody.