Episode #2: Bariatric Influencers, the good, the bad, the downright toxic

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Welcome to the second episode of Bariatric Banter and it's going to be a spicy one today,

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but hey Steph.

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Hey Anna, thanks for coming back everybody.

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I know I can't believe we're on episode two, this is pretty exciting.

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How was your week?

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You know what, it's so good to have the kids coming off of holiday break, have the kids

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back in school, have some routine back, get the normalcy back.

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It's been great, we're back into activities, the swimming lessons, the gymnastics, getting

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back into the swing of things has been so good.

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I dig it, I think that's pretty awesome.

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My whole company is at an offsite that I couldn't go to because of pneumonia, but it means that

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I have a super quiet week.

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Which is super nice.

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So nice in the third week of January to just be like, nobody's here to bug me, leave me

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alone.

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Get your stuff done, catch up on things that you couldn't get done earlier.

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That's a great feeling.

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Super good feeling.

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We're about to open a can of worms with this episode I think.

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I can't wait, we're going to ruffle some feathers big time.

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I'm so excited it's our second episode and it's like, cool, well we got two and then

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everybody told us to fuck off and we're done.

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We tried.

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Bariatric Bantra podcast is now finished after two episodes.

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But this week we're talking about influencers in the space.

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Now oh boy, there's going to be good in here because we're not going to try to be that

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podcast that's just not happy about things.

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No.

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There's going to be a lot that we think needs to change and yeah, just a lot of problems

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that we have with this space as well.

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Not major problems, but things that like, come on guys, let's do better.

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If you're somebody who's just researching bariatric surgery, things to be aware of and

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keep your eyes open to.

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Definitely things that I was not aware of when I was first researching that definitely

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either got me down rabbit holes or skewed my view on things until I realized the truth

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behind a lot of them.

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Exactly.

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And that's the lens that we're taking this from is we were researching, we relied on

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you.

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Here's what we'd kind of like to see you do differently because it either didn't help

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us or kind of enraged us a little.

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And typically influencers get a lot of smoke blowing up their ass and maybe it's kind of

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nice to hear some constructive criticism because I think we can all grow and learn.

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So with that being said, we might as well dive into episode two of the bariatric banter

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podcast, influencers in the bariatric space.

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Let's do it.

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Oh boy.

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Because there's so many.

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Yeah, which might even in itself be a problem.

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There's a lot of American ones as well.

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So we will give a shout out to some great Canadian ones, but come on Canadians, let's

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step it up and become bigger in the space.

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Maybe you need to be on TikTok more.

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I don't know, but I'm so tired of just seeing Americans, Americans, Americans, Americans,

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Americans, like let's get more Canadian representation.

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Come on.

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All the more things, more things that we can relate to because there are, like you said,

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there's so many Americans out there, which is great.

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They definitely helped me during my research, but I couldn't relate to their programs, the

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products they're using, the places they're shopping when they're doing their grocery

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hauls.

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It's great to get an idea, but I would love to see more Canadian content creators where

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I can more closely follow them when they do their grocery hauls, for example, because

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those are products I can get here.

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Yeah.

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They're actually going to order from websites that we can order from.

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We're not driving two hours to Michigan to spend 700 Canadian dollars to get like a Trader

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Joe's haul, like I do all that and I will always share my US haul with you guys, but

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it's not realistic in the winter.

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It's likely not going to be a realistic for the next four years, given what's going on

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with all that jazz, but I would like to just see more.

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This is what's available here because we can't even get the goddamn like bariatric vitamins

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that you guys have here.

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So, sometimes it is a bit frustrating where I'm like, well, fuck, what's the Canadian

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equivalent to that?

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And you know what?

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We do have great equivalents to that.

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And maybe, maybe if we have a little surge and some great Canadian influencers in this

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space, maybe Costco will start bringing in more of the great shit that they sell in the

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States because they already are.

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The nuggets are here folks and the nuggets are good.

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And some built bars.

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Yeah, we have built bars now.

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We're starting to slowly see it, but a surge, an increase would be great.

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Yeah.

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So, let's go Canada.

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Apologizing for the coughing, I am overcoming pneumonia, but yeah, let's, we're just going

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to start this one out hot and heavy.

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Here we go.

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Yeah, let's go.

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Lack of eating is a huge issue that you and I have been talking about recently.

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It runs rampant in the bariatric community.

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And you heard us say last week, we're going to do a whole episode on eating disorders

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in this space because eating disorders really become like a huge problem in the bariatric

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community.

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And it's, once we cover that topic, I think it's easy to see how and why, but my problem

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with influencers in this space is the lack of eating.

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We follow a lot of the same ones and you and I almost immediately reached out to each other

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at the exact same moment when an influencer in our space posted a video.

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And this video basically showed that they didn't eat anything all day.

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They literally were drinking.

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And I'm not going to out the influencer because it's not important and I don't believe they

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deserve any type of hate for this, but basically it was like, I'm going to drink a protein

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water.

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I'm going to drink a protein shake.

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I'm going to drink a coffee and then I'm going to have two bites of something and call it

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lunch and then I'm going to go drink more protein shakes.

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And then I'm literally going to eat two or three bites and call it dinner and call it

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a day.

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And Steph and I were both just kind of like, what the fuck?

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We had never seen this before from this influencer.

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No, it was a drastic change in their typical behavior.

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We were both really disturbed because the big thing you're told during surgery is you

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A, the Canadian clinic anyway that we went to was really like anti-protein shakes.

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You could use them, but don't use them every day.

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You need to get all your protein from whole foods and they really push that.

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They're a one off.

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They're a one off.

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Yeah.

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They're like in an emergency in a pinch.

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Now, do I drink one every day?

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Yes, I fucking do.

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But the big thing was like whole foods, whole foods, whole foods.

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You will not be successful drinking because it leads to binge eating, overeating.

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It's not sustainable to just be living on liquid.

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You don't absorb it the same way either.

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Your body absorbs the protein from drinking a lot faster than from a whole food.

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So it's not going to sustain you.

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In a pinch, yes.

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Or like you said, have I been having protein coffee every day?

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Yes.

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Because for me, we'll talk about this in another podcast.

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It helps with my vitamins.

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It really helps with the nausea of my vitamins.

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So have I done it?

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For sure.

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If I have a really busy afternoon out with the kids, do I pack one?

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Yup.

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Because it's better than going to McDonald's.

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But the whole thing of I just had protein shakes and protein bars all day and then like

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you said, four bites of food, that is number one, not sustainable.

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And number two, not the example that you should be setting for the bariatric.

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Exactly.

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And the fact that we were both so concerned when we saw it probably says everything it

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needs to say.

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But I just remember thinking you basically ate probably less than half a cup of food.

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I'm deeply concerned that you're promoting drinking, drinking, drinking.

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And it's not to say like profe is bad because like I genuinely love my protein coffee.

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I have it because it's an easy way after the gym to get my 30 grams of protein in 30 minutes

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in.

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I mean it's longer than 30 minutes to drink it, but it's still like it's great.

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And I think it's a healthy normal part of the bariatric journey.

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But I'm very tired of seeing influencers drink 80% of their day and then barely eat.

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I don't think there's any award you should be given for that.

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I don't see any clinic that has advised you that that's normal.

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The liquid diet we are on before surgery is for medical reasons ahead of surgery.

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And for a short period of time.

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It's not an everyday thing.

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It's not sustainable.

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No and the reason we didn't like unfollow this influencer or go ham on this influencer

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is we were like something's going on.

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Whether it's like a fear of regain or just a bad week like something is clearly going

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on.

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It does.

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But as we said that video then should not have been posted.

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It should have just or explained and been transparent about it.

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Look at guys I'm having a rough day or this is what's going on.

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But to just to choose that particular video as an example of what I eat in a day in my

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opinion was bad taste.

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And dangerous because a lot of people follow this influencer and a lot of people get all

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their recipes and advice and like they are super big in the industry.

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I've been following her for years.

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Even before surgery.

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A hundred percent before surgery and I was like I just think that's really dangerous

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that you shared that.

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I think as an influencer you seem to like influencers seem to think that they're not

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held to higher standards but they are.

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You are the influences in the name of your job.

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You influence others.

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You can't be ambiguous.

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You can't assume that they're going to understand that you shouldn't do this all the time because

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some susceptible person is going to look at this and go oh so I need to barely eat and

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drink all of it.

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Like that's what I need to do.

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And so they're going to look at her and say she's been so successful.

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She's lost over 200 pounds.

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If this is what she's doing well then shit I'm going to do it too.

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I need to do it too.

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And that's dangerous.

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It's dangerous.

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People don't know any better.

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If you look at people who are just starting out on their journey they come across that

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video they think well shit I can eat.

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Yeah I can drink protein shakes all day.

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And these are the habits they're going to fall into which are going to be super hard

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to break.

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And then that's where the eating disorders come in and it just the rabbit hole it creates

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is just so dangerous.

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So so dangerous.

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So again we were just really disappointed to see this and it was a trend that we then

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started seeing a ton of influencers do.

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And I was like I am not a fan of this lack of eating.

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And again it could have just been like a put a disclaimer okay and say this is not what

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my normal week looks like.

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This was a week where I wasn't feeling good or I was really stressed or you know be honest

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I'm scared of re-eating.

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I dropped the ball on meal prep this week and this is what it was.

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Or go back and be like guys I looked at that video and you know what it wasn't don't do

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that you know like or just do that once in a while but like you don't need to not eat

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to be successful.

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And so that's a big fucking problem in this space is this notion of eating the least amount

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of food makes you the best bariatric patient.

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That's not a bad bar.

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How are you eating 1200 calories you know two years post-op.

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That's terrible.

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It's not so that's literally real food.

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Where it says in our guidelines from our clinic that that is where you're supposed to be

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at this stage post-op and for life you're supposed to be between 12 and 15.

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That's just where you're supposed to be.

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Real food has calories guys.

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Yeah.

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That's how it is your body needs the calories to burn throughout the day.

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Don't yes we need to make healthy choices and yes we need to watch what reading and

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yes we need to focus on protein.

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Yeah.

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You need calories and protein bars and protein drinks are low calorie for a reason.

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They are not enough to fuel your body.

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It is not a badge of honor to say I only had 600 calories today because all I drank was

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three protein shakes in a built bar.

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That's been terrible.

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No no no fail.

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Yep and like sorry absolutely terrible and then like it's just it's not where you're

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supposed to be that far out and again drink what you want to drink.

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We don't give a fuck if you want a protein shake because we both have them have some.

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Yeah but like please don't give up real food because you have this notion that it has been

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proven scientifically and medically that if you just drink your calories you will always

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end up binging and overeating.

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It is not sustainable and then you kind of have to ask yourself like the exercise that

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people are supposed to be doing after surgery is at least 30 minutes every day but you can't

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drink all of your calories and be like well I went for a 20 minute walk.

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No.

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Okay but where's the strength training you're supposed to be doing.

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I think you're maybe supposed to be working out a little bit more but you don't have enough

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energy or fuel in your tank to do that and it will catch up with you eventually that

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like all you have and that's that was the big thing about this video.

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There was no real like there was minimal real food.

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There was no vegetables or carbs.

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It was just processed with the exception of the two bites at lunch and the two bites at

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dinner.

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I was like oh my Jesus Christ there's no carbs there's no fruit there's no vegetables.

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And if this is the habit you get in then let's look a couple months down the road when you

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realize or somebody finally talks to you and you need to work real whole foods in there.

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You can't tell me that you're not going to be terrified because you've been living on

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such low calories such little food that then when it comes time to do it properly look

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at the disorders that are going to come up because you are going to be so afraid to touch

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that food.

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The mental challenges that you're going to have to make those changes to your habits

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it's going to be a big a big challenge for you moving forward.

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A big uphill battle and again we absolutely love this person and in no way are we do we

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hope to offend them.

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I still follow her and watch her.

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Oh my god I watch her all the time but we're just saying like can you realistically look

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at that and admit that if you knew people who had surgery and they told you that's what

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their everyday looked like you wouldn't be concerned for them and you wouldn't speak

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out and say you need whole food.

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And that's all we're saying is like that one day is fine because we truly don't believe

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that's your everyday but you need to say that because people on the internet infer everything.

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They believe what they see and as somebody watching it you need to be wary of things

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like this and not believe everything you see question everything you see and watch other

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people too to say okay is this normal yeah this seems a little off question it.

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And that's like yeah there's nothing wrong with protein drinks and bars but my rule is

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I try to only have one if I'm going to have a protein bar I try not to have a protein

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shake I don't have multiple protein because again I'm trying to get it from Whole Foods.

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I love having a built bar as a dessert in the microwave it's fucking legendary if you

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haven't done it guys.

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Had it last night.

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So good but I in the early days I had to supplement with all of that but now that I'm two years

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post-op I really aim to have a meal plan that does not rely on needing the protein items

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to get there they're great they're great for a road trip or when I'm tired after the gym

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or like I just fucking love chips and I just want quest chips I fucking love quest chips

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but I can't have a day where I have seven protein added items to get me where I need

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to get because at the end of the day they're not filling they usually don't have the carbs

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or the fiber that I need like and we're not judging but we're just saying like there's

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other options out there there's a reason you should be aiming for like 80 percent of your

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protein to come from Whole Foods.

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It's more filling.

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There's other options.

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Yeah.

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So if you're having a bad restriction day which we all have then maybe just fucking

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admit that please because like we were all pretty concerned and I think it's a really

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shitty look for such an experienced influencer to think that that was normal and we both

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came to the conclusion that we think that it was because they were pushing their fucking

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affiliate brands and there's nothing wrong with making money being an influencer.

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Get that bag.

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Get that fucking cheddar.

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Like I'm fine with that but do not fake a day because you need to push brands that are

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supporting you.

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I'm tired of seeing influencers go and I start my day with AG1 greens which like do your

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research on AG1.

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It's terrible.

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As they're holding it up like all nice in front of the camera with their beautiful cup

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and their beautiful shaker.

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I'm going to start my day with my greens like first of all they've been debunked as being

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needed.

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Second of all there's a ton of people that have sued them for liver failure but I digressed

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oh here's my AG1 and then after my AG1 I have a giant profie where I put my Clean Simple

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Eats which every influencer seems to be using by the way.

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Everybody's using Clean Simple Eats and my protein coffee and then after that I'm going

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to grab this protein water from this brand and then I'm going to have a built bar and

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that like stop.

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Stop.

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I don't need to see a day where you fit 52 affiliates into your day and pretend that's

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what you eat in a day.

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Like just nobody cares that you're making money.

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Nobody cares.

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There's such more natural ways to be like hey guys don't forget like I'm a built bar

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ambassador so if you want a discount on it they're my favorite bar.

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I eat them a few times a week here you go.

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But don't give me these fake what I eat in a day's that are just insane to me.

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Just insane.

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So sorry that got me all hot and bothered but like don't.

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But it's true and there are some influencers out there who are great at being transparent.

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Oh my god.

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Saying flat out they mark their videos as paid partnerships.

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They're very open.

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Oh that annoys me when you don't mark it as an ad.

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They're very open when they're saying here's my code.

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Yes I'm an affiliate.

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Yes they sent me boxes of them.

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Do I love them?

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100 percent.

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Do I eat them?

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You betcha.

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But I'm an affiliate and I have no problem with that.

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We all want to make money.

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We all want to pay our bills.

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But like you said it's when they're eating three of them a day and they're making the

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like fake commercials from their car that they're out.

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I was out running errands and you know I'm so busy but you know what's really convenient?

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My build bar.

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And I just happen to have it in the car with me.

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You know what am I going to take a snack with me this afternoon when I go run errands and

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new grocery shopping?

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God damn right.

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100 percent.

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It's normal I get it.

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But it's the way you come across it.

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And like you said the Clean Simple Eats these brands that taste like total shit.

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And so many people are falling for them and buying them.

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Or once you actually look into them the macros are garbage.

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But people just say again they say oh my gosh this influencer has been so successful this

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is what they're eating.

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Take my money.

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I got to buy it.

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I'm going to give a shout out to an influencer right now.

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There's an influencer from Canada.

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She's called eating.vsg on Instagram.

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I think she's doing it right.

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I have to say she's one of my favorites.

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She literally posts a photo of everything she ate in the day.

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She breaks down the macros and items in it.

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She's super humble and honest when she's like I have days where I don't track and here's

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what I had.

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Oh by the way I actually only ate half of what you're seeing pictured here.

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Like yeah he probably doesn't realize how much she immensely helped me in my journey

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because I looked at her page and went oh my god she had a cookie.

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She's having a built one.

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Cheddar broccoli popcorn.

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Like I remember seeing this and going oh my god mom I can do this.

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Like I can do this.

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Yeah.

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Look at this Canadian.

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Look at what she's eating.

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And I said oh look.

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It's real food.

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These two years post-op and she's averaging 13 to 1500 calories which is exactly what

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I was told to do.

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Look she's running.

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She's a runner and like she's been so fucking successful in this.

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And I loved seeing like you know how we complained in the first episode about oh I love that

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you keep it real.

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This is an example of keeping it real.

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Actually real.

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She literally just shows you what she eats and it's normal.

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She's had pasta.

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She has built her.

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She has popcorn because like I have a dirty fucking crutch for popcorn.

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She has like she went on vacation and said I had fish and chips.

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Like anyway great great example of someone who's just breaking it down and being honest

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is super fucking successful with her weight loss which is just incredible.

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And is a runner and like just again one of my favorite influencers to follow for that

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reason.

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But I think she's an affiliate from built to and you wouldn't fucking know because she

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doesn't shove it down your face.

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Right.

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But I think and I think you also made a good point there which we want to chat about which

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is where she shows what she plates and then she shows what she eats.

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Yes.

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Or tells you.

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Like she'll tell you in the comments.

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Here's how much of this I ate.

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Yes.

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And it's another one of these bariatric badges of honor to either not eat a lot or say that

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they don't feel it's appropriate to show what they ate.

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No.

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I'm sorry.

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As somebody who is new to this whole journey and who's 10 weeks out and who as we talked

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about in last episode doesn't always get a lot of guidance from programming programs

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around how much should I be eating what portion size should I be at right now how many calories

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should I be at right now.

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I want to have something to compare myself to and I know a lot of these people will say

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well I don't want to post it because we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to others.

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I'm sorry I call bullshit on that.

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I want to know where I fall in the realm of everybody else right now.

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Am I under eating?

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Am I overeating?

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Am I eating the right things?

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I don't know.

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So show me.

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Yes.

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And I am I'm sorry but the accountability is on me to then say okay this person is three

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four two years post-op.

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I'm only 10 months.

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Yes.

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I realistically should I be eating the same portion as them?

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No.

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But it gives me a starting point and a comparison point to say okay if she's plating half a

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cup and a quarter cup and this I can look at that and say okay so I should probably

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cut that maybe in half for myself but it gives me somewhere to start.

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So this not posting what I ate and then for all we know they're plating this plate of

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food and eating none of it.

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None of it.

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Or eating or eating all of it and then some we don't know.

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We don't know.

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So show me show me what you ate.

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Oh yeah.

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Let me compare myself to other people.

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Let me have some way to know where I sit in the realm of what I should be doing and show

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me.

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I'm tired of like the excuse is oh the reason I'm not going to show you how much I ate of

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my what I ate in a fucking day is because you might not be where I'm at in my journey.

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Right.

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First of all.

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I don't want you to feel bad.

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Fuck off.

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Like if you're going to plate I'm six years post-op from bypass here's what I eat in a

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day then you better show what I plated versus what I ate and I don't like there's no reason

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to not show me how much of that you actually ate.

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No unless it's because you're not eating it and you know people are going to give you

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shit and say it's not okay that you're not eating food.

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That's not like you're barely eating and that's not healthy.

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There is someone who labels themselves as a fucking nutritionist for bariatric patients.

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Self like did the work obviously but like because they were a bariatric person decided

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to go into this and I think that's cool because I would like to do that and they do what I

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eat in a day and will never show what they actually ate.

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And I think that's so unhealthy and so fucking manipulative.

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I get really upset about this because you need to show people this is a huge part of

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bariatric surgery.

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This is huge.

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Right.

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Knowing like am I over plating.

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Is it normal to not eat it.

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Is it normal to eat the whole plate.

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Yes.

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You need to start showing people that it's fucking normal to eat the whole serving.

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Like it's not okay for you to allude to the fact that maybe you ate this or maybe you

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didn't.

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And like I just do not and will not get on the bandwagon.

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Don't do a what I eat in a day then.

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Don't do it.

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Because what is the point in doing it.

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There isn't one.

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And the thing is if you're going to post a what I eat in a day and you don't tell me

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that like here's how much of it I ate.

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I assume you ate the whole thing and I know a lot of you aren't.

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And so now you're telling people that this is totally normal to eat all of this and to

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have these portion sizes and they're going to go copy you not be as successful as you

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because you're not actually eating all of that which by the way is an eating disorder.

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Like you're being you're not being truthful.

480
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,080
You're being super fucking manipulative.

481
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,080
Slimy.

482
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,080
So slimy.

483
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,240
And I know the thing the thing that I'm going to say this and you're going to just go off.

484
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,240
I know it.

485
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,340
But the other thing that goes kind of hand in hand with this is what I eat in a day.

486
00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:29,660
And then when they say let me show you how I made it.

487
00:25:29,660 --> 00:25:31,120
Let me give you the recipe.

488
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,240
Let me post the recipe.

489
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,600
You know you know exactly where you're going.

490
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,480
And then give you zero nutrition information on your recipe what they made.

491
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,120
So okay you say it's high protein.

492
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,240
Is that 10 grams?

493
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Is that 20 grams?

494
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Okay maybe it is 20 grams of protein but does it have 600 calories in it?

495
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,560
Because then that's not happening.

496
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,680
It drives me bonkers.

497
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,680
Drives me bonkers.

498
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,240
I'm going to try not to fucking get stressed out by this.

499
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,320
This might be this might this is a bigger issue to me than the what I eat in a day sham

500
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,320
by the way.

501
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,320
I'm going to call it what it is.

502
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,400
What I eat today is a fucking scam.

503
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,440
It's to make people feel better about themselves.

504
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,320
A real what I eat in a day literally shows you what I plated what I ate what I plated

505
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,720
what I ate and it also shows all the stuff that they ate in between those meals if they

506
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,720
did.

507
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,520
So I'm calling it what I eat in a day's are fucking scams for the most part.

508
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,760
But what annoys me more is exactly this.

509
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,600
I'm so tired of seeing super high protein unbelievably healthy meal that you can make

510
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,480
in 30 seconds and there's no nutritional information and then top five comments are what are the

511
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,360
macros can I get the macros?

512
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,560
No I don't really look into that like trust me it's like really high protein.

513
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,680
But we're going to call it healthy with having no idea how many calories or how much fat

514
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,240
is in it or what the carbs are.

515
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,360
But it's healthy.

516
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,720
And nine times out of ten because Steph and I have now started and this might be a whole

517
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,800
thing that we start doing on social Steph and I have started breaking down the macros.

518
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,920
We've gone in and said okay fuck you we'll do the work for you.

519
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,280
And it's terrible guys.

520
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,360
Eight out of ten times they're not high protein or healthy.

521
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,300
They're horrible for you.

522
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:17,240
So again what Steph said earlier you need to be your own best friend and do your own

523
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,880
research you better go and run those goddamn macros through fucking my fitness pal and

524
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,400
I'm going to give you here's the example I'm going to give you.

525
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920
This was the post that kicked this all off.

526
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:35,400
Somebody shared a breakfast that they said high protein breakfast.

527
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,920
And she's a dietitian or she's lost all this weight which also by the way a lot of influencers

528
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,720
who claim they've lost a lot of weight are lying and using it because it boosts the algorithm.

529
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,500
You'll notice they go I've lost over a hundred pounds and here's what I eat.

530
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:54,300
What happens if you mix and they all start their videos the same way?

531
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:59,480
So this person was like here's this super high protein amazing breakfast that has all

532
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,800
this flavor you won't believe it's going to be your morning masterpiece.

533
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,960
It's guys it's going to be so good it tastes just like cheesecake and what started this

534
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,160
conversation was I said to Steph if there's no cream cheese in this fucking recipe it's

535
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,040
not going to taste like fucking cheesecake.

536
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,180
And there was none in it.

537
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,200
No cream cheese in it.

538
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,200
It's got fucking dates and all this shit.

539
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,760
And I sent it to Steph and I said there's no fucking way this is high protein and healthy.

540
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,440
There's not a fucking chance.

541
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,520
The recipe is cottage cheese, Greek yogurt, a fuckload of maple syrup, vanilla, dates,

542
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,260
hazelnuts, heavy whipped cream.

543
00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:37,000
And I was like this is not a healthy meal.

544
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,420
So it has some protein.

545
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:43,400
Everybody is posting what are the macros what are the macros what are the macros and nobody

546
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,400
would answer.

547
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,040
So I doing the Lord's work over here in Canada I went in and said I wish when people

548
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,280
posted recipes they were required to post the macros if they're claiming to be nutritionist

549
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,160
and they're claiming this is healthy.

550
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,320
This recipe has almost five hundred and sixty seven calories.

551
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,880
Guys the serving the serving size of this is like a quarter cup might I add.

552
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,040
Five hundred and sixty seven calories and only that's my whole day.

553
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,540
Only 16 grams of protein.

554
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:19,160
Only 16 grams of protein and it had over 36 grams of pure fucking sugar and that's not

555
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,360
fruit sugar.

556
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680
That's fucking added sugar.

557
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Maple sugar.

558
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Maple syrup.

559
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880
People were kind of like very happy to be like thank you so much for posting this because

560
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,460
this is not healthy.

561
00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:30,900
This should not be breakfast.

562
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,200
And that's my argument.

563
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,940
In no way should this be breakfast.

564
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:38,480
This should be a dessert and don't don't pan it as healthy because it has some protein.

565
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360
Sixteen grams of protein.

566
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Forty three grams of carbs.

567
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,920
Five hundred and twenty seven calories and thirty six grams of sugar is not a fucking

568
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,920
healthy breakfast.

569
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,280
It's the same.

570
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,960
It goes along with like we're talking about protein coffee and how we both have protein

571
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
coffee and that's good.

572
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:03,000
And certain influencers out there who have become we'll say famous because of their protein

573
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,040
waters and protein coffees that they started with which is great.

574
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,960
But what gets me and I have always had a sweet tooth.

575
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,380
I still do have a sweet tooth but it has changed post surgery.

576
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:16,380
It's not as sweet.

577
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:21,880
I think I want sweets but then when I have something that's sweet I can't finish it.

578
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,120
My coffee has drastically changed.

579
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,120
I digress.

580
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,080
Anyway the people who make these protein coffees and you see them get out their flavorings

581
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,400
and their water packets and their sugar free syrup and I swear like three quarters of the

582
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:44,240
coffee is sugar free syrup and sugar free like the sugar free flavorings I should say

583
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,520
and then the syrups around the edge and then the foam and then the this and I'm thinking

584
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,360
you're literally having a quarter of it in coffee and then chemical chemical chemical

585
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,360
chemical chemical.

586
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,960
They just do an espresso shot.

587
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Right.

588
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Do I put like I put sugar free flavor in my protein coffee.

589
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,720
I do.

590
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,720
Sure.

591
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:13,080
But I put depending on the size one maybe two pumps or instead of that a little bit

592
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160
of stevia but not not really.

593
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,000
I it blows my mind.

594
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Now watching some of these and just like the pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump

595
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,880
or they make the flavor like I'll drink flavored water again.

596
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Sure.

597
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Can't drink three quarters of the ones I used to like.

598
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000
I can't even.

599
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Oh I hate them now.

600
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Oh I can't even.

601
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Two sips and I'm out.

602
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:45,280
But I will take my liter my 40 ounce water bottle and I'll put a packet in maybe a packet

603
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920
and a half depending on the flavor that it is.

604
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Maybe.

605
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,140
But then you see these influencers with their 40 ounce cup and I checked because I want

606
00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:54,320
to know comparison again.

607
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,560
I want to know the size.

608
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:02,640
They're putting the sugar free pumps like four and then two water packets.

609
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Yeah.

610
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Three water packets.

611
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,640
And I just.

612
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,640
I can't.

613
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,640
I can't.

614
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,640
I can't.

615
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,880
The taste for me I don't know how they do it.

616
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,600
I don't know if they're predisposed to it because they drank so much pop.

617
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Oh my gosh I don't know.

618
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,680
Or they drank so much diet coke before surgery.

619
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,480
But I can't like the taste of stevia and the fakeness is disgusting to me.

620
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Just the amount of chemicals.

621
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,320
The only thing I like is my powdered Gatorade at zero or I can do the iced tea the crystal

622
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720
light iced tea for some reason hits like a motherfucker for me now.

623
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,720
And I love it.

624
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,720
That's my.

625
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,000
This is my problem with that.

626
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Listen.

627
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
You can suck anyone's yum you do what you like to do.

628
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,320
But my problem is you will restrict carbs.

629
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
You won't eat fruit.

630
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
You won't eat real food.

631
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,120
But then you'll have bread.

632
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Yeah you won't have bread or anything.

633
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,400
But you'll sit in front of people and you'll put a thousand pumps of syrup because most

634
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,120
of them average four to five.

635
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Then you'll put the sugar free caramel all over the inside of the cup.

636
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,300
Then you'll do your scoops of protein your minimal espresso shot.

637
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,160
And then you're going to top it with like cold from creamers and heavy whipping cream.

638
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
That has more flavoring in it.

639
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,760
That's all flavored.

640
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,520
But you won't eat real carbs or fruit and vegetables or real food.

641
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,640
And I just think like the protein coffee movement and even the water has gotten ludicrous.

642
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Like I don't quite understand that.

643
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,520
I do understand that if I have a crystal light I actually drink more of it.

644
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:30,200
So I do understand that like there's something about the juicy flavorness that gets you drinking

645
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,200
it.

646
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:39,480
And I in no fucking way could imagine three crystal light packets and four pumps of like

647
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:45,880
fake bubble gum cotton candy strawberry syrupy stuff just to drink my water.

648
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,880
I would vomit.

649
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,680
And I would probably shit my pants.

650
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Oh yeah.

651
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800
I would absolutely be out in public shitting my pants taking all that in.

652
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,280
I'd have a headache from that.

653
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,280
Yeah.

654
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,520
And like you said if that's what you like and that's what does it for you.

655
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Or go bananas.

656
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Have fun.

657
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Do it up.

658
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Knock your socks off.

659
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,840
But then don't sit there and have your lunch and dinner and say that you know your family

660
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,280
is having XYZ but you can't have it because it has carbs or you can't have it because

661
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,800
it's bread or you can't have it because of this.

662
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,800
Yeah.

663
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,880
I'm sorry but that doesn't fly with me.

664
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
No welcome to the high horse that you need to be knocked off of.

665
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Like the reason we're shitting on this is not because we care what you put in your body

666
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:33,320
but we're saying typically you thousand pumpers you shit on carbs and fruits and vegetables

667
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,120
and other things.

668
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,640
But then you go and have this and think that you have any platform to stand on to say don't

669
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,520
be eating bread don't be eating carbs oh my goodness.

670
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,620
The other thing my clinic taught me I mean it's our clinic they would rather you just

671
00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:50,840
have the sugar in moderation than to be having all of the artificial sugar.

672
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,840
Real foods.

673
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,840
That was a really big thing.

674
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,600
They were like try to avoid like also sugar free does not mean healthy.

675
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Let's just rip that bandaid high protein does not mean healthy sugar free does not mean

676
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000
healthy keto sure as fuck does not mean healthy.

677
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,500
A lot of these things will pump what they're doing full of other things to get it to be

678
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:12,340
low sugar or no sugar.

679
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:19,000
So our clinic said it's actually healthier to just do the real like the real full fat

680
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,340
or the real sugar in moderation.

681
00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:26,960
And so I buy flavored coffee I just get flavored coffee I have a hazelnut coffee I have an

682
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,960
eggnog coffee.

683
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Yeah cute that's really all I need but I like even drinking so my prophy is as follows a

684
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:41,880
flavored coffee and then a container of premier protein and even that premier protein I'm

685
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,800
like fuck this flavor is just hard to get down the artificialness of it that like I

686
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:53,280
could not imagine adding pumps of fake sugar and all this shit to it and like I get it

687
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,560
you're trying to replicate what you used to have before you know your Starbucks or whatever.

688
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,280
I just kind of worry that like is it really setting you up for success I don't know if

689
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:08,120
you like do you is everything have to be that sweet is there an issue here like when I joined

690
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:14,760
program I committed to the 10 grams of sugar added sugar or less per meal and I've done

691
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,120
exceptionally well with it and now I don't really crave sweet things.

692
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Fruit does not count you should be eating fruit fruit has a lot of fiber now obviously

693
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,040
don't go and eat seven bananas and six apples in a day but you should eat a banana or an

694
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,240
apple or an orange like fruit is not the enemy and that's the other fucking hilarious thing

695
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,680
is the people who do have these outrageous coffees and waters will be the first to be

696
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,240
like you shouldn't be eating that much fruit do you know how high in sugar that is I would

697
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:47,880
rather eat fruit and half a cup of artificial shit and and I just like just drink the fucking

698
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:54,520
water like just yeah I don't like and adding the sprinkles and the dust and like again

699
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,720
do what you need to do to get where you need to get but I just think it's gotten a bit

700
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:04,440
absurd and blown over to have like 32 sugar-free syrups in your house and to need to add four

701
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,520
or five things to your water to drink it right but here's one pack.

702
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,200
You know and here's where it kind of ties back into the other thing I bet you if you

703
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,440
look into these people they are affiliates of a hundred percent syrup or that water packet

704
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:26,200
or that whatever so again just watch watch what you're seeing question what you're seeing

705
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,800
and that should be critical and use your brain right it's like I also bet if you looked into

706
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,720
the flavoring packets which by the way I've been around since the dawn of goddamn time

707
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:40,080
yeah I bet you they have a suggested serving and I can almost guarantee you it's not four

708
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,000
in one fucking drink because these people also drink multiple coffees and waters a day

709
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,280
so I don't know again I mean I don't believe that like some of these artificial sweeteners

710
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,400
are as bad as people say they are I really don't subscribe to that but I think when everything

711
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,440
in moderation and when you're having four a day in one water and you're having three

712
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,240
waters a day just I don't know guys check yourself chickity chickity check yourself

713
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,320
it's I mean not everybody that had bariatric surgery needs to do that I will say I do like

714
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,400
a Gatorade zero packet every now and then I do find I drink more when there's something

715
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,520
in it but I find it's just nice to switch it up sometimes too I do half a pack of crystal

716
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,840
light because I literally can't stand a full pack anymore I'm like God I want to throw

717
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:29,360
up one hot topic that this brings up that gets Hannah very heated but I know it's something

718
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,640
you and I have discussed is and this is going to be a trigger for some people the lack of

719
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:45,240
transparency around GLP-1 and GLP-1 is Ozempic or Mongero it is the weight loss injections

720
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:49,760
now we're not here to talk about our beliefs on those because we actually think it's great

721
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,080
we actually think using them is awesome and they've helped a million people and we're

722
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:59,640
not against them what I am fucking against is how many influencers are now not being

723
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,760
transparent that they're on them and a ton of fucking bariatric influencers are not admitting

724
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,520
they're on them and this pisses me off for multiple reasons one we are trying to break

725
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,840
down the stigma and shame of weight loss surgery by talking about it more so how does hiding

726
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,600
something that is part of your successful journey in any way help us break down stigma

727
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:26,080
and shame and two don't you fucking tell me this is what I eat in a day as a bariatric

728
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,640
patient five years post-op and then not also say oh by the way I'm also on Ozempic so

729
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:38,880
because that is not what people who aren't on Ozempic would be eating and it is not fair

730
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:46,360
and not okay to again be shady and misleading by not telling people I'm also on Ozempic

731
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:52,000
so Ozempic limits your hunger noise it restricts you know your hunger and what you want to

732
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,400
eat so that is what really enrages me when I see these people barely eating five or six

733
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,200
years post-op because they're not telling people oh by the way it's because I'm on Ozempic

734
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,200
yeah and again no judgment to those who are if that's if that's what you want to do perfect

735
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,720
if that's what's working for you incredible and like we've talked about once you hit the

736
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:17,600
maintenance phase sometimes it can be it can be a challenge or if your goal weight is a

737
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,520
little bit less than the maintenance phase or for us for example you had VSG which you

738
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,720
lose typically lose a little bit less than bypassed if if you just can't get to that

739
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:35,440
last goal and you want to go that route amazing go for it I hold not succeed and it does what

740
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,880
you need but like you said then be honest about it because your portions are changing

741
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,880
the amount of food you want to eat is changing your cravings are changing your hunger noise

742
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,800
is changing everything is changing so you're giving people a false sense of hope who are

743
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,720
watching this as either a pre-bariatric patient a new bariatric patient or anybody in the

744
00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:01,240
bariatric community who is watching you have this extra push of success which is great

745
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:07,880
I'm so happy for you but just be honest and if you're that ashamed or you're that scared

746
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,320
to admit that you're taking those medications then get off social media yeah then stop being

747
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,000
an influencer in this space and stop telling me what you eat in a day because I don't give

748
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,560
a fuck that you take ozempic I honestly might take ozempic I have a weight loss goal I'm

749
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,760
trying to hit things have slowed down a little bit I'm gonna keep trying to push myself to

750
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,880
do it on my own but I have no problems with ozempic I'll fucking take it hands up high

751
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:39,280
five it's fucking incredible my argument and anger is that you're lying about your weight

752
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,240
loss journey and you're making people feel bad I watched an influencer and this is what

753
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,740
started this post of what I eat in a day and then was like well I didn't really eat this

754
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:53,120
or finish this and I was like oh my god how is this five years post yeah how is this five

755
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,300
year post-op vsg patient eating twice a day I was like do you know how bad that made me

756
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:03,080
feel I was like well I eat my three meals and my three small snacks like I'm supposed

757
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:09,560
to do wrong and I felt like a fat piece of shit like the mental obesity never leaves

758
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,960
you so I see this and go oh my god I'm overeating two years post-op like she's five years and

759
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,840
she's only having two small meals oh my god I'm failing I'm doing it wrong oh no and then

760
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:27,940
it then I found out that she's on fucking ozempic and I was like you son of a bitch

761
00:42:27,940 --> 00:42:32,440
like you should have told me that this is what I eat in a day five years post-op on

762
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:38,160
ozempic honestly five years post-op no longer matters this is not what I eat as a bariatric

763
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,560
patient this is now what I eat as an ozempic patient who also happens to have bariatric

764
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,920
surgery exactly and that's how it needs to be framed because this is not what normal

765
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:54,600
bariatric eating looks like unless you're also on ozempic and like that's really dangerous

766
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,640
and it's multiple multiple huge influencers in the bariatric space or on ozempic and not

767
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,160
actively admitting it in their what I eat in a days they like casually slip it into

768
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,280
other videos and I don't think that's fair no or gets buried in the comments somewhere

769
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,360
in a massive thread down below and it's just again the transparency is lacking you're setting

770
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,440
unrealistic expectations for people you make people feel bad yeah you have people like

771
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:27,320
me who are new to this watching you going holy shit she still barely eats like five

772
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,480
years out is that what my life's gonna be like yeah because I don't know yep and it's

773
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,920
like okay I guess I better stop eating because they're not eating and like again that's why

774
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,000
I really liked eating vsg because she posts I run I do this and here's what I'm eating

775
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,800
and she's eating six meals a day and I went yeah that seems doable like just be honest

776
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:54,000
about yeah just say this is what I'm doing as an ozempic patient who also had bariatric

777
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,780
surgery because the truth is you're not a bariatric patient first now you are now an

778
00:43:58,780 --> 00:44:03,040
ozempic patient first who had bariatric surgery that's all you have to say you don't have

779
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,800
to go into your life story about why you chose to do it again don't give a fuck do what you

780
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,200
want to do you take that ozempic you rock it bitch because you're rock they're rocking

781
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,960
it they're killing it they are but I'm very angry that you're trying to pretend that this

782
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,620
is all bariatric surgery and it's fucking not and it now makes bariatric patients feel

783
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:24,300
like failures or losers or like they can't do it on their own and that's what's really

784
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:28,740
frustrating and then the other very dangerous thing about this is now you're basically saying

785
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:34,040
the only way that you were able to be successful is to eat basically next to nothing and that

786
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:39,500
is terrifying to me as someone who's so dangerous to put that out there I'm already struggling

787
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:44,260
with it it makes me wonder like why are we encouraging breaking the rules like the rules

788
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:49,680
were pretty clear for me eat whole food for a reason eat between 1200 and 1500 workout

789
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:55,480
every day for a minimum of 30 minutes do strength training but like you need to be working out

790
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,280
and why are we encouraging breaking the rules and why are we saying the only way to be successful

791
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:05,520
is to eat next to nothing starve yourself it's to you know the other thing is like they

792
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,880
barely work out why aren't we sharing that side of your life because that was a huge

793
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,360
part of this was like hannah you must work out every day and they would ask me in every

794
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,120
follow-up how often are you working out you need more strength training you need to be

795
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,440
working out or let's go even post surgery one hour one hour after surgery get up let's

796
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:28,240
go move your body get it going get move move move in the days after surgery every 15 minutes

797
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:33,160
get up even if it's a lap of your kitchen move your shake your tail feather let's get

798
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,680
going and there's so many people the influencer we were talking about earlier who had that

799
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:42,800
what I eat in a day with the nothing nothing will flat out say she does not wow so her

800
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,480
words are I don't exercise I walk and I don't want to downplay walking because walking is

801
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,880
walking is so underrated it is probably one of the most underrated exercises out there

802
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:04,320
so walking is a must but where's the rest where's the rest of your cardio where's your

803
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,040
strength training where where are the weights yeah because like I can tell you that's what

804
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,240
we're told to do in Canada to be successful to watch the loose skin and like the other

805
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,640
thing is a lot of there's some influencers who are great and then there's some who I

806
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,040
I sometimes have said and I'm not trying to be a bitch oh boy they look like they look

807
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,080
gaunt like they don't look healthy yeah and like so the clinic was clear like you're gonna

808
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,160
have loose skin girl you're losing a whole person but in order to try to make sure it's

809
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,920
not as like bad and noticeable lift your muscle fucking weight but also with extreme weight

810
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:47,000
loss comes muscle decay and you don't want that you know keep your muscles functioning

811
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,600
and healthy and going we're not eating enough to sustain like that's the big thing you're

812
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,200
not eating enough to sustain a lot of stuff if you don't do this other work at the same

813
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,720
time so walking is great by the way in my life I've lost weight walking when I was at

814
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:05,800
my leanest before surgery walking love it but I wasn't walking 10 minutes I was walking

815
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,080
10 kilometers I was doing at least an hour and an hour and a half I wasn't doing it every

816
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:17,360
day but I would do 5k 5k 10k 5k 5k 10k and like religiously doing that five kilometers

817
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,640
a lot of that's all you can do you can't you can't do anything else post-op so walking

818
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,880
is your only option so a lot of influencers are working out really well I will say I love

819
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,120
I'm gonna butcher her name but flushed away or flush it away I can never remember her

820
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:38,320
name I can't either flush I think it's flushy it away but like I like that she always posts

821
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,620
like here's me running here's me walking here's my strength training like this girl hit that

822
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:49,000
fucking exercise hard when she and like she's had she's had the most amazing success and

823
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,300
like I have to say she does she does really good with posting like realistic eating and

824
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:58,680
all that guys like she'll post it I don't like influencers who don't post their exercise

825
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,200
and because I'm not here to judge your exercise but it is part of the bariatric journey so

826
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,520
why aren't you showing it because you you can't get complacent and just not work out

827
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
again if you're on ozempic that's a whole other story right then you need to disclose

828
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,520
I'm on ozempic I'm not really working out because I'm using something else for weight

829
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:21,240
loss but for the rest of us you have to work out for the rest of life it's just not gonna

830
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,880
be unless you want to hit maintenance phase and just stay where you're staying and so

831
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:31,200
I do get really mad when I see people go walking on my walking on my walking pad for 10 minutes

832
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,520
today and it's like it's a great add-on but it's not enough no there's another good one

833
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:45,040
she is on tiktok finding mz like emz oh she's in austria wow I want to say Australia but

834
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,400
she posts a lot about her food but she also posts a lot about her workout and she's one

835
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,520
of the people where part of it is genetics part of it is luck but a big part of it is

836
00:48:54,520 --> 00:49:00,080
her workout and she focuses on just cardio but also strength and her loose skin situation

837
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:07,120
is like my ideal whole and that's what I could look like and she works her ass off and she

838
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,440
now like you she's a runner she's doing iron man's she's doing triathlons yeah but she

839
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:18,640
started with the walking and the weight and she has had such phenomenal success and she's

840
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,840
honest yeah she's open about it and she's phenomenal but that's walking like I said

841
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,360
walking is great I have a walking pad but it's not that's not my main go-to that's

842
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,560
for I need to get a few extra steps in or I have a really long call for work let's bust

843
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:40,520
out the walking pad but the weights are the priority yeah and like you said a walk at

844
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,440
the beginning all you can do is a two minute walk and that's great but once you're more

845
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,200
into the throws of things saying I went for a 10 minute walk it's not enough not enough

846
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,680
also it's gonna be you're welcome back to obese Hannah you can't work out twice a week

847
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,080
and think that's enough like it's just why am I not losing weight why then yeah you know

848
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,080
what they're not eating and they're they're not they're breaking the rules so they don't

849
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,520
have the fucking energy to work out like the I want to be fit and healthy I don't want

850
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:14,440
to be skinny and gaunt and barely eating that is not a life I want to live if it is for

851
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,160
you good for you but maybe just be honest about that but like another great one I'll

852
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,640
give another shout out to one more person but her name is Carolyn CA we'll put it in

853
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,040
the notes Carolyn our NY she's awesome she I fucking love her and she puts glp1 in her

854
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,440
fucking Instagram title she has the date she started it she has a whole video on why I

855
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,960
started it if I had that bariatric surgery and again I don't give a fuck about your reasonings

856
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,480
hers was awesome like she hit her goal weight but really wanted to get a bit lower and this

857
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,480
helped her but she will post her home workouts her gym workouts her what I eat in a day what

858
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,880
I finished of it fucking love her what an inspirational influencer I want to fucking

859
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:58,960
be her one day my big argument is about this rule breaking and not following the rules

860
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,160
I am really tired of people pushing the boundaries and promoting it as this is real you know

861
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200
exactly who I'm going to bring up and I'm not going to list them by name but there is

862
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:12,960
someone complaining about complaining about how shitty they feel well there's no badge

863
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,320
for vomiting in the parking lot or that your chest hurts because you did this like you

864
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,760
aren't following the rules stop pretending like it's okay to break the rules you know

865
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,200
what you can break the rules and bariatric surgery you cannot vomit you can feel okay

866
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,720
I'll be honest I ordered chicken wings probably more than I should because they were I was

867
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:35,120
like they're kind of high protein and they're easy to eat should I fucking be eating takeout

868
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,400
chicken wings no just because there were no negative ramifications I stopped myself and

869
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,440
said Hannah what's going to happen in two years when you can eat more and you're still

870
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:49,240
ordering food you know the rules follow the rules so there's someone on TikTok who blatantly

871
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:53,360
flaunts the rules we're talking like two weeks after having surgery I was going to say newly

872
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,680
newly post-op fresh meaty here's the deal fresh incisions we're all going to make mistakes

873
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,480
we're all going to screw up look at our past like we talked about in our last episode look

874
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,680
at how we got to where we were okay we lied we hid food we cheated we did things we weren't

875
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,800
supposed to are we working on improving that you damn well betcha are we trying our best

876
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,840
to not go down those paths again yes but it's going to happen we're human but like you said

877
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:25,640
my problem is hosting about it encouraging other people to do it and then crying about

878
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,400
it and having a sob story of wool feel bad for me because I now feel like I'm dying yeah

879
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,840
well no shit you had Doritos and Coke for lunch three weeks post-op that that person

880
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:44,160
I just can't like and it's multiple multiple every diet diet cokes have sugar at least

881
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,920
do a fucking sugar-free for Christ's sake but you're not supposed to have carbonation

882
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,980
until after six months for a fucking reason stop drinking multiple diet cokes stop eating

883
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:57,560
multiple bags of Doritos and then getting McDonald's and then doing Chinese takeout

884
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,680
and then lying to your doctor and pretending you only had one bad thing instead of listing

885
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,860
hey over the last two weeks here's all the takeout and bad foods I've had three fucking

886
00:53:06,860 --> 00:53:12,200
weeks out of surgery so and then coming on tik-tok about oh I feel so bad I throw up

887
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,880
in the park a lot like I'm dying my my head is pounding okay no shit oh and not taking

888
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
their vitamins because they just don't want to and they know people who didn't take their

889
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,920
vitamins and they were fine so I'm not going to take mine and it's like okay your first

890
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,840
year you're probably going to lose some weight because it's almost impossible not to you

891
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,000
are going to absolutely fail in your second year and gain it all back you're not exercising

892
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,920
because we can see it like I said to you I don't yeah I don't want to follow her because

893
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:45,000
I don't want to give her the follow no I don't but I I also don't can't look what exactly

894
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,960
and I want to watch her because I want to see a year from now yeah what her journey

895
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:57,280
looks like and I don't I don't wish ill upon people but it's just so infuriating to watch

896
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:03,160
somebody host this and then like to have yeah have people say oh you're keeping it real

897
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,960
thanks for being honest okay like I said if you mess up once sure post about it but say

898
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,440
look at guys I shouldn't have done this this is not the rules I'm supposed to be following

899
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:19,120
I feel like crap because of it I've learned my lesson okay fine but to then continually

900
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,080
every day and she always starts her day saying I'm gonna do this I'm gonna have this I'm

901
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,800
gonna be good I'm gonna be here and then at lunch sure as shit here comes the video of

902
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,640
oh I don't feel like leaving my desk and well and going to do whatever for lunch today so

903
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,340
I just busted out the coke and Doritos it's only this number of calories not even sugar

904
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:42,920
free no protein and then like didn't follow any of the rules though was like I like to

905
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,920
break the rules I like to push things I'm having raw vegetables I'm eating ground beef

906
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,480
and it's like you are setting such a terrible fucking example for others there's nothing

907
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,860
to be proud of breaking the rules because again you're gonna break the rules now and

908
00:54:55,860 --> 00:55:00,560
probably not see the repercussions of that now because it is not a one-for-one you can

909
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,020
eat it like you can eat chips right now in your first year and not see the negative effects

910
00:55:05,020 --> 00:55:09,640
it is going to fucking catch up with you when your cholesterol the roof when at the end

911
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,560
of one year you're like I can't wait to see a video of I'm stalling and I don't know why

912
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:20,000
but like eventually you will hit a point where you're non tracking and non vitamin taking

913
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,560
and constant need for takeout and sugar is going to cause you to stop losing weight yeah

914
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,400
there's your 30 percent of people who regain yeah and it's annoying because like they go

915
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,100
to the doctor and did they tell the doctor they had one bad thing instead of all the

916
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:37,720
bad things yeah and then the doctor said oh that's fine which it is because we all like

917
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:43,000
because we all mess up did I did I try to have a scoop ice cream a month after surgery

918
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,240
I did and then I vomited profusely in my bathroom and never touched it again because it was

919
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:52,600
horrible right you know I did I get butternut squash soup even though people said ye you

920
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,500
probably shouldn't because it's got a lot of sugar and I was like fuck you it's butternut

921
00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:00,800
squash and then proceeded to vomit but I did not break the rules and then try to pretend

922
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,680
like it was totally fine and that's I think what annoys me is stop pretending that this

923
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,980
is fine stop going out and justifying shitty behavior and saying you don't need to take

924
00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:14,160
vitamins and you don't need to listen to this the surgical team you're less than a month

925
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,740
out of surgery or two months out you don't get to have an opinion on breaking the rules

926
00:56:18,740 --> 00:56:23,380
on bariatric surgery and everybody there are people calling her out thank goodness but

927
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:27,660
a lot of comments are like thank you so much for being so real I'm gonna have a burger

928
00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:32,200
or I broke the rules too thanks so much and it's like guys this leads into our like one

929
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,520
of our final points here make sure you find influencers that are actually doing things

930
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,480
that are good and that might mean that you're watching an influencer where you're like oh

931
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,880
man do I have do I have to put everything in my fitness pal yeah you do okay because

932
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,980
this is not easy and it shouldn't be easy if you're coasting through it and eating whatever

933
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:56,960
you want you're not doing it right you're you're in for trouble and your old habits

934
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,760
will come back look at influencers that have been two three four five years post and they

935
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,240
will all have stories telling you oh boy did my voice come back oh boy did my hunger come

936
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:12,280
back oh boy is this a journey and I'll talk about it in other podcasts about my struggles

937
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:18,120
and my hunger noise and you know days of maybe overeating or slider foods but do not go on

938
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,560
the internet and pretend that this is okay and that's my issue with this creator they

939
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,800
don't say oh man I shouldn't have done this and guys please learn from me and I'm gonna

940
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:31,520
do better they consistently do this day over day and it's totally fine they brag about

941
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,040
how good this like they brag about I don't follow the rules because people have said

942
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,200
how are you allowed to do this my doctor said no and they're like well I just don't listen

943
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,080
right this is like you're you're blatantly saying I'm an idiot and you think that that

944
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:51,200
is good it goes back to building the habits right away like you said putting my things

945
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,520
in my fitness pal I hate it it drives me nuts but I I do it every day I'm putting my stuff

946
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:03,160
in that I ate that day and then at night before bed I put in my next day am I an amazing meal

947
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,600
play prepper right now no do I need to spend more time improving on it a hundred percent

948
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,160
I do yeah but I'm still I'm tracking and I'm planning out a day in advance which for now

949
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,080
I'm just working on getting in that muscle memory of put it in put it in put it in put

950
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:27,320
it in but it goes back into building those habits now so that when you are at that 12

951
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:32,480
months it's just the norm it's just your everyday lifestyle you don't have to think about it

952
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,960
it just becomes part of your daily routine and if you're building those horrible habits

953
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,920
now when you hit that 12 month point because like you said it's it's almost impossible

954
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,920
not to lose weight right now because physically you're in a deficit no matter what listen

955
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:53,240
I ordered chicken wings and was right I'm losing weight eating chicken wings 100% but

956
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,400
this is going to become their new norm and this is going to become their daily routine

957
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:03,120
and once they hit that point I hate to say it but look out they are going to fail there's

958
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,640
a reason to gain the weight back and I don't want to hear the sob story no and I don't

959
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,200
want you bringing other people down there's a reason that we were obese in the first thing

960
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,520
and like one big thing I did after the whole chicken wing debacle in my first year I deleted

961
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,600
the ordering apps off my phone I do not order delivery food now I order delivery groceries

962
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,460
because I had pneumonia and there's just days I can't get out and get groceries but I do

963
00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:32,040
not order takeout food anymore because it's just not good for you now do I can you make

964
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,040
chicken wings at home go for it I've done it actually I've made tacos at home I've made

965
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,480
quesadillas oh my gosh I've done high quality burritos like high protein you can still eat

966
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,680
things you want to eat we're not saying don't have a burger I make the cutest little sliders

967
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,440
and they're only a hundred calories for the whole burger I've had tacos so many times

968
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:55,920
in the last yeah like tacos I'm not giving up tacos I'm sorry I eat popcorn popcorns

969
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,240
my jam I still make nachos I use quest chips for my tortillas and I still make nachos what

970
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:06,360
I'm saying is do not pretend that eating fast food is smart and people have said girl why

971
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,540
did you even have surgery then fast food is what got you here stop doing and you're not

972
01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:14,880
even making healthy choices I do every now and then on a road trip need to get fast food

973
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:21,040
because nothing's available I'll get the grilled nuggets I'll get you know I'll get an egg

974
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,520
breakfast sandwich and take the English muffin like I'll do what I need to do to get through

975
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,680
that state make it work but yeah anyway we're not we sound bitter and bitchy we're not trying

976
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,240
to it's just like we would have more sympathy for this person if they weren't blatantly

977
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,040
saying that they didn't give a shit and if there was accountability rules and that they

978
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:43,400
thought this was totally fine and it's just it makes me wonder it makes me wonder like

979
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,280
we took yeah like we talked about with our program how we had to have all those appointments

980
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:54,160
I would be really curious to see what appointments if any they had they had in there or if they

981
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,720
were just one of those situations where they just went in they paid for it and it was done

982
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:02,640
I'd be really curious to see that surgery we had to give food journals for months after

983
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,840
surgery this person did not in their doctor's follow-up and it was just annoying because

984
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,880
they said well I had this one thing no you didn't you didn't because I've been watching

985
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,160
your tiktoks you didn't tell them about your multiple pops your multiple Doritos your takeout

986
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,640
food your Chinese food your McDonald's you didn't tell him that you're eating raw vegetables

987
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,440
and having high fat bacon like if you maybe told him everything I bet you he'd be alarmed

988
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,320
yeah and then they said you know and like you said I don't we don't want to sit here

989
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,040
I don't want to sit here and sound all bitchy and bitter but I don't want to shoot on earth

990
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,360
if there was some accountability if there was I'm gonna say a little bit of guilt and

991
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:44,240
remorse if there was clear visualization of them improving if we could see them or you

992
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,160
know what if they come out and say look guys I need your help like come in the comments

993
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,840
for me and help me do better give me tips give me pointers send me your recipes if there

994
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,240
was some indication that they were acknowledging that this is not okay this is not what surgery

995
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:04,440
is supposed to do and look like then I would support you a hundred percent and I would

996
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,640
be in those comments trying to help you out because that's what we should all be here

997
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:15,960
for is to help and support each other exactly when you don't give a shit I'm out yeah and

998
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,160
that's the the thing is folks like she clearly doesn't give a shit because she'll constantly

999
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,840
be like oh well I'm not listening I'm not following like whatever like ooh and then

1000
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,840
posted a big video being like see guys I'm totally fine like nothing is wrong with what

1001
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,440
I'm doing and I was like bitch bitch bitch bitch like have a little bit of self observation

1002
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,760
here don't don't you come out posting a video saying basically fuck all you guys I'm totally

1003
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,420
fine and that was kind of my final straw was like you lied so in that appointment you're

1004
01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:50,680
not and also like I don't like promoting such an unhealthy lifestyle when you you're a bariatric

1005
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,720
patient because it like the risk of all of the things you're doing the fact that you

1006
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,720
haven't had a negative outcome is is is lucky because a lot of people end up in the hospital

1007
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:05,680
with major blockages perforations twisted bowels malnutrition like if you don't take

1008
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,640
your vitamins it doesn't catch up with you tomorrow it catches up with you in a few months

1009
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,520
when you have to go to the hospital and even her doctor in the video said this doesn't

1010
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,280
happen instantly but like when it happens it's incredibly dangerous to have to deal

1011
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:23,680
with like vitamin deficiencies like just said it will change your life to be vitamin deficient

1012
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,320
yeah just to clarify she recorded her doctor's appointment and posted it on TikTok we weren't

1013
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,200
just magically in the room this happened anyway posted it I don't want to be this person that

1014
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,400
just like shits and bring someone down but I think this person needs help I don't think

1015
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,360
social is the best place for them to be I think they're trying to justify really bad

1016
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,840
behavior my problem with influencers is they often don't want to hear the criticism and

1017
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,440
no one was being mean no one was saying fuck you blah blah blah people were voicing but

1018
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,480
influencers never really want to hear the criticism and they always delete the comments

1019
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,760
or shut it down and only focus on self-serving comments that again justify their bad behavior

1020
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:04,720
so this all gets wrapped up to say please just be smart when looking at influencers

1021
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:10,680
be very critical look into things don't buy everything you're seeing or believe everything

1022
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:16,600
you're seeing follow them for fun and inspiration but do not let them become your nutritionists

1023
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,840
do not let them become your therapist do not let them become your sole guiding force please

1024
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:27,600
speak to actual medical professionals be honest they're like a doctor is never in the bariatric

1025
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,600
community never going to shame you for being honest ask questions don't be afraid to say

1026
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:37,080
I'm falling off the wagon I did like they want you to be successful yeah like you can't

1027
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,160
just avoid uncomfortable conversations because you don't want to if you don't speak up you

1028
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,800
become further in trouble and you want to be successful so ask for help admit when you're

1029
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,280
struggling we're gonna talk about it in a later podcast but I struggle all the time

1030
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,920
I've fallen off the wagon here and there I'm gonna talk all about my slider foods my fucking

1031
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,560
ice cream vomiting which is insane but please just be critical of who you're following don't

1032
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:07,560
be mean there is no need to go in and tell people to go fuck themselves or to be but

1033
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,200
be critical you are allowed to go in and say I really don't think you're supposed to be

1034
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,560
doing this how is this beneficial for your journey there's nothing wrong with that but

1035
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,520
please don't be hostile do not wish ill on anyone that's just not the community we need

1036
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,840
to build because that is the community we've dealt with as obese individuals and unfortunately

1037
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:31,680
that's the bariatric community in some places and it sucks so influencers are great there's

1038
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:37,240
a lot that aren't try to just be very critical is that is the message I'm going to end on

1039
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:42,920
yeah no 100% and I just say ask the questions ask them about their program ask them ask

1040
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:48,680
other people don't put all your focus and eggs into one basket in one person yeah exactly

1041
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:56,520
judgment yeah look at multiple resources multiple areas ask your doctor ask the people who are

1042
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,440
in that program ask other people who have been in your program I have connected with

1043
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:07,480
people on tick tock randomly ask questions found out that either we're in the same program

1044
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:14,080
or we're close by and we've had conversations about it so question just be intelligent be

1045
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:19,920
curious be curious yeah question what you're seeing exactly don't believe everything you

1046
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,440
see and just know that there are people out there who are not going to give you the full

1047
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,800
picture yeah and that's okay like yeah social media is a minor snapshot of someone's day

1048
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:36,560
take it with a grain of salt but yeah I knew this was going to be a hot button issue and

1049
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,760
in no way do we do we want anyone to to feel like we're coming for them but I think there's

1050
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,600
just there were some conversations that had to happen we'll link all the great influencers

1051
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:50,160
that we love to follow in the comments of our social posts when this episode goes live

1052
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:56,560
and then we're really excited to announce next week's episode is going to be shame and

1053
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,800
stigma around bariatric surgery this is a question that we've already gotten on tick

1054
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,920
tock about how people couldn't talk to family couldn't tell people publicly the stigma the

1055
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,640
thoughts that this is easy and the easy way out and so we're going to talk about a lot

1056
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,840
of things from how to say goodbye to toxic people that need to not be in your life how

1057
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,440
to talk to your family about this and how maybe collectively as a community we can start

1058
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:25,840
breaking down the stigma of this being an easy way out yeah it's going to be it's going

1059
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,760
to be a good one because we've both we both have had different experiences you're further

1060
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,320
out than I am so you've had to deal with it probably a little bit more than I have as

1061
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:40,400
you've had more drastic changes as your habits have changed your interests have changed but

1062
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,320
it's definitely been something that we've both had to deal with and that as somebody

1063
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:54,880
who went through this and kind of got into it unexpectedly I as Hannah mentioned it was

1064
01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:00,120
recommended to me by my doctor at an appointment where I was not expecting it to come up so

1065
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,220
there was some people who were caught very off guard when I brought this up to them as

1066
01:08:04,220 --> 01:08:07,920
something I was considering so it'll be a good episode it'll be a good episode for

1067
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,600
sure give us all the feedback you want we want to grow and learn and become better and

1068
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:17,160
become again your Canadian BFFs that just talk about bariatric surgery and all the topics

1069
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:22,760
whether they're uncomfortable or easy as we go and we're excited to see you next week

1070
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:28,240
Steph thanks for joining me again this week absolutely love it I can't wait to do the

1071
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,980
next topic can't wait to hear the feedback and thank you all for listening in thanks

1072
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:38,040
everybody have a great week.