Episode 16: The Bariatric Myth-Busting Episode: What No One Tells You

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Back to another episode of Bariatric Banter Podcast.

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We're still here. Still here. With my man voice.

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Oh, you honestly don't sound as sick as you think

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you are. Like, you sound good. Because my youngest

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goes yesterday, she goes, Mom, I'm really sorry

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that I got you sick. And I was like, it's fine.

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She goes, but I like your voice better when you're

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sick. And I was like, what? Oh, no. Yeah. She's

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like, I wish you could not be sick, but keep

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your sick voice. I like it better. And I was

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like, I don't know how to take that. No, I don't

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either. I don't know if that's a compliment or

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if I should be. I don't know. I don't know. I

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think people sound, I don't know. There's something

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cool about the raspy voice when you're sick,

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right? But maybe it's like, what's that phenomenon

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that like dogs listen to? Not that your child's

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a dog, but like dogs listen to men more because

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they can, because of the audio tone. Yeah. Maybe

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there's something when we're sick where our kids

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will listen. Our kids. I don't have kids. They

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tune in more? Yeah, because they're like, oh,

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I can understand my mom more. Right? Maybe, yes.

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It was so funny. I like your voice better when

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you're sick. Thanks. Well, I think you sound

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awesome. And I'm digging the Toronto Blue Jays

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shirt that you got going on today. It's a very

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good look. My thrifting find. My $3 thrifting

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find. Hey, listen, we're both wearing thrifting

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finds and they're both very Canadian. This is

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not a nod to friends. I'm not a friends fan.

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Sorry. Sorry if we lose followers. We can't be

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friends anymore then. Our podcast is over. I

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don't like it. Oh my gosh. I don't. I've seen

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it so many times. I've tried. Like, I think we

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all have, like for me, it's the office or. Honestly,

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like a million other shows that aren't Friends,

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like The Office, Seinfeld, Project Runway, which

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is free on YouTube and I'm literally watching

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all seasons. Never got into Friends. Tried. Can't.

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So good. Can't do it. But I get it. My mom is

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very obsessed with it. So you know what? If you

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think that this is my lobster shirt, cool. If

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you think it's my East Coast shirt, also cool.

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Either way. It's great. And like always, we have

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Bobo here. Just not on a bone in the background.

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He's so cute. He's our podcast mascot. Thrifting

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has been like such a, we're going to go down

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a rabbit hole. Thrifting has been like such a

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good, I was never a big thrifter. Same. The odd

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time, like, you know, hit a value village, whatever.

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But now being that weird, like going through

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sizes. In such spurts and not knowing where you

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are and things fitting one week and then not

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the other. It's been the best. It's been such

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a good little tip trick. I found so many good

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shirts. Mainly shirts. I'll be up. Mainly shirts.

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I'm in my jean era. Keep buying jeans. Well,

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I found a pair of jeans that were, what were

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they, $6? And then they were 50 % off. So I got

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a pair of jeans for $3. But mostly it's been

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shirts. Like $3, $4. Yeah. And that's like the

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thing I love about thrifting is I'm buying an

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ass load of things and I'm like, I only spent

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20 bucks. Yeah. And then if you only wear it

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for a little bit, it was $3. It's three bucks.

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So who cares, right? If it falls apart, if it

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gets tattered, there's like multiple things I

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like about it. I think also like thrifting has

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just become very cool recently. And I love that

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because. I think it just had this notion for

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too long. I remember when we first moved from

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Nova Scotia to Ontario, my mom decided not to

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go back to work for a bit to see if we would

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adjust because, you know, little country kids

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coming to the big city. And so my dad was working

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at Chrysler. My mom's like, I'll go be a nurse

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in like a year or two again, like once they settle.

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So we shopped at Value Village because she's

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like, you know, we moved from Nova Scotia where

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the cost of living was next to nothing to Windsor,

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Ontario in its heyday. And things were expensive.

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And she's like, I just felt so bad that we had

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to go there. But she said, you know what? It

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put clothes on your back and it helped us. you

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know what? I have no shame anymore for it. And

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I was like, I'm glad there's no shame involved

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in thrifting anymore because it's like, there's

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something so cool about not only getting clothes,

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but it's like my adventure of finding it. And

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I can wear brands that I never have worn in my

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life, which like, fuck those brands. But still

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I'm like, Oh, I have Hollister jeans. The excitement

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of going through the rack and being like, no,

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no, no, no. And then finding, finding a gem.

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Yeah. And like as a bariatric patient, and I'm

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sure this is for anybody, but like as a bariatric

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patient, like your donations make my day. And

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I think there's something kind of cool about

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thinking about, I gave away my clothes. Like

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I donated all my clothes. I did. And this was

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kind of like one of those, I did reach out to

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friends and say, would anybody like these? And

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there was a moment where I was like, oh, is that

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mean? Like, should I not offer my clothes to

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people? Like, am I inferring something? And then

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I was like, right. No, shut the fuck up. I did

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the exact same thing. I messaged two people and

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I was like, hey, I'm going through my stuff.

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I'm just wondering, like, are you interested

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in any, like, before I get rid of all my shirts

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or whatever, are you interested? And then same

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thing, I was like, oh, should I have done that?

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Like, is that rude? Right? I don't think it's

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rude. Like, there was a moment where I thought,

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oh, but I think I was like. I was internalizing

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it too much because I didn't think it was rude

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but also I don't know let us know like is it

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rude to offer your clothes that don't fit anymore

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to your friends that you think it would fit are

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you calling them like I don't know so that's

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the thing I didn't even know what size exactly

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these people were so if they would have said

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yes then I would have you know been like okay

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well let me know what I'm trying on you or whatever

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yeah But I just, my instinct was I don't want

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to just get rid of all this clothes. Half of

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them still had, like, honestly, I went through

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my closets the last couple weeks. Number one,

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it was way harder than I thought it would be.

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I thought it would be so easy to get rid of all

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this clothes that doesn't fit. Oh, my God, it

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was so hard. So hard. It was, like, emotional

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getting rid of clothes. Like, it was hard to

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part with it. You might need this one day. I

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should just keep something in case I get fat

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again. And it's like, oh, no. No. No. And, I

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mean, yeah, like, it was hard. And I didn't want

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to get rid of certain things. But I was like,

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Steph, you don't need this anymore. And then

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half of it still had tags on it. Yeah. Because

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it's just ridiculous. But then, yeah, like, I

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was like, I don't want to just get rid of this

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stuff if I know somebody who I think could use

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it. But then I felt bad asking. Yeah. And that's

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the thing. I felt guilty. I got over pretty quick

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because like I just started bringing shit home

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to my mom and I was like, try this shit on. It's

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even fits you. It's yours now. I think the problem

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was when it was like larges and I was giving

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away larges, I didn't feel bad at all. I was

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like, it's a large. That's awesome. I think when

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it was my plus size clothing, I felt like an

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asshole. being like, does anybody want this?

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And like, I wasn't trying to infer that they

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were plus size or big. I just was like, I had

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beautiful winter coats that barely got used.

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I had beautiful dresses. Like I, it wasn't even

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like, it was like, here are my ratty crappy leggings.

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It was like, does anybody want this Laura winter

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coat or ball gown that I had to buy for a wedding?

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Like these are gorgeous items. Would they, you

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know, would any of you want them? But there was

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this moment where I was like, I think I'm an

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asshole for offering this up. And it's like,

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why? That's a horrible feeling to have. But I

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did donate it and I kind of almost felt better

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about donating it because I was like, you know

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what? Plus Size Hannah would have loved to have

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stumbled along and found some of these things

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that weren't just muumuu's and floral stretch

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t -shirts. It's still hard, I think, even with

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thrifting to find things that fit you. So I donated

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all my stuff because I know how much joy I get

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now when I find something thrifting. And I was

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like, I want people to have that when they find

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my stuff. Especially the bigger sizes that are

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hard to find or very expensive at a regular store.

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Yeah. jeans are my thing I don't know why I think

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it's because I just like avoided jeans for so

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long um it's not a bucket list item because I

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know we talked about that last week about getting

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like a luxury brand I'm still gonna do that but

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I did get a pair of Levi's for the first time

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in my life last weekend and I was like whoa this

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is really cool like in the store actual Levi's

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off the shelf in my size and I was like it's

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a moment Yeah, it was a great moment because

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I was like, oh, and the lady said, and I'm not

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trying to like, this is not a humble brag, but

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she was like, what are you looking for? And I

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was like, I don't know how to read your sizes.

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I'm sorry. Right. The length and the waist. And

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I was like, she's like, well, you're kind of

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short. So I think you'd be like. a 30 or like

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a like you'd be a shorter length but right um

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you could probably pull off a 30 if you had like

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a little wedge shoe and i was like thanks for

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calling me short but yes cool and then she's

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like you know what size do you need and i said

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honestly i don't know i said probably a 12 and

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she was like no i think i'm gonna get you an

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8 and a 10 you're like and like try those on

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and i was like all right in your fucking wildest

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dreams um and she brought them back and i was

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like they fit like the eight and the 10 and the

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10, like it had a little room, but it still looked

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kind of cute. Now the eight was like, she fit,

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but I was like, I can feel her fitting. So she's

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a little more form fitting, but I came out and

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my mom's like, honestly, they're both okay. Like

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the eight was a little more snug. And I was like,

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yeah. And she's like, and the 10 has like a little

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bit more looseness around the butt. And I was

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like, What do I go? And like, so now I had choices.

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You're like right in the middle. Where I was

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like, shit, do you make a nine? Like, is there

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a nine? So I did go with the eight because it

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did look, it looked great through the legs. It's

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just, I have loose skin. We'll see what we can

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do at the top. It still looks good. Like in no

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way is it muffin topping or too small, but it's

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just like. I can see the button imprints when

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I, when I take it off and I'm like, it's fine.

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I'm buying these. I'll make it work. But it's

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true. That's what people think about is the sizing.

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Like when I went shopping the other day and I

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went into the store, same thing. I just needed,

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I just wanted to get a couple of pair of jeans

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because all the jeans I had were now up to the

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point where they were too big. Like they looked

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too big. And I walked in and same thing. Like

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we're used to always going to the back of the

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store, like always going to the plus size, right?

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Yep. Which is always at the back. It's like,

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oh, let's keep them away from the front. Well,

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and it's, let's go walk through all the stuff

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you can't have. And let's make you look at everything

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you can't have. Why is that a different material?

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And why is that cuter? Like I have a bone to

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pick with Maurice's doing this. Cause like you

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are supposed to be a plus size store. Right.

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But no, it's still at the back. And that's where

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I was. And I walked in and same thing. I thought,

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I was like, okay, you know what? I have no idea

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what size I am right now. I want, I'm going to

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try a bunch of different pairs of jeans on. And

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I didn't even clue in that it was the front of

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the store, but there was a pair up there that

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in the picture, the girl was like a little bit

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of a, like a broader hip, broader thigh. And

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I was like, oh, okay. And so I was like, I should

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try those on. And they were silver jeans. Excuse

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me. And so I walked over and I start scrolling

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the jeans and instantly realize, oh, these are

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regular size. And same thing. It was like. 30,

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32, 34, 36. And I was like, I, I, um, I don't

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know. I had to Google it. Cause I was like, I

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don't understand this. So I just started grabbing.

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I just like instinctively went to the bottom

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of the pile to the biggest size. And I was like,

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maybe, but yeah, like never even thought to Clinton

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that, oh my gosh, I haven't worn jeans that are

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a like normal numbered size since I was a child.

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Yeah. So I, I don't know. Like all these things

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that you just don't know. And I would say with

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jeans and like I'd really care. And then I promise

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we'll get to our topic, guys, which is a good

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topic this week. With jeans, this is something

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I'm noticing now, too. The difference between

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when you start getting down in size, like the

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difference between a 10 and an 8 and a 6, like

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it is minuscule. Oh, yeah. Yet the difference

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between a 1X, a 2X, a 3X, I'm like. Jesus, like

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it's like it might as well be 15 sizes. Like

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I find the difference when you're in plus size

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infuriatingly large. And I didn't mean like large

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as in your size. I mean like it doesn't feel

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close at all. And now I'm noticing as I'm shopping,

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a 10 is almost identical to an 8. An 8 is almost

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identical to a 6. Like, yeah, I can't fit into

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a 6, but like I'm noticing. It's not much different.

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No, 1x to a 2x is huge. Yeah, because I would

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there would be times where like before I eventually

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became a 2X, I was in between sizes and I was

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like, yeah, this sucks. Like this is whoa, this

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is huge. And I was like, yeah, that's a and I

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get it as you get smaller, I guess your measurements

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become less and like and I do understand the

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ratio of differences. Yeah, but like. come on

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we have to do better there has to either be half

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sizes introduced or something like and we're

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still going to advocate for this no matter if

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we've lost weight or not like plus size clothing

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needs to do better um I used to have to wear

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men's clothing when I was a kid because we just

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didn't have plus size and that scarred me for

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life because that was not fun but like plus size

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needs to just do better we were at Maurice's

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on the weekend um after thrifting and I was like

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This used to be my haven. And my mom did say,

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you know what? When you were plus size, this

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was a great store. Like they did actually have

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things. I said they did, but I feel like it's

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gone downhill. It has changed a lot. It feels

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cheaper. It feels like the materials are dumpier.

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Like I'm plus size. I don't want to be in a tent.

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I'm plus size. I don't want to be in floral,

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stretchy, loose baggy material. Or graphic everything.

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Yeah. There's a great influencer. I can't think

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of her name, but she's in the change room trying

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stuff on. She's so funny. And she'll put on the

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plus size clothing and then come out. And she's

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like, ooh, a cold shoulder. And she's so funny

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about the stuff she's trying on. It's so ridiculous.

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But it's true. It either looks matronly, it's

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overly stretchy, and it's like. I'm not ashamed

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of things. It's peplum. Um, or it's got like

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the weirdest cutouts in places where it's like

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stupid. It's either all band graphics or just

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stupid graphics. Like when I, when I went to,

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to the store, um, I would say 85 % to 90 % of

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the t -shirts were graphic. And I was like, I

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don't, I'm not like if I'm plus size, I don't

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want a big graphic. On me. To draw even more

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attention. Yeah, that's going to be warped and

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distorted. And I don't like that the material

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the plus size clothes is made out of is often

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not the material the regular clothes are made

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out of. And that pisses me off. And all the pants

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are stretchy. All the pants are, every jeans

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are jeggings. Jeggings, yeah. Which like, cool,

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thank you. I'm just going to rub a hole through

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them in a week. Well, you know what? We'll do

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a whole topic on this because, yeah, wearing

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clothes when I was plus size, the holes in my

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jeans, the things I couldn't wear, like it was

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a whole thing. So I think now that's why I really

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like wearing jeans. And it was funny. Okay, last,

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and then I promise we'll get into the topic.

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I got a pair of jeans. They were PacSun because

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like I'm now just being like a brand, you know,

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aficionado. Like, yeah. Basically because I had

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never, ever, ever growing up was allowed, like

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could fit in these. I couldn't go to Hollister

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or Abercrombie. Oh God, no. So I got a pair and

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it's like, like the ripped pair, right? Like

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holes everywhere, super ripped. And I was like,

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oh my God. Oh my God. Like 16 year old Hannah

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would be freaking out. So I put them on and it

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was funny because like we're outside in the backyard.

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My dad goes, well, why'd you even buy those?

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There's nothing left. You spend money on them.

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Like look at all the holes in them. And I was

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like, I used to say that all the time. It finally

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happened. Like, I've never had that moment. Yeah.

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My open used to make fun of my brother all the

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time because he had ripped jeans. Why do you

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pay money for that? I could make those for you.

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Like, why do you spend all this money for pants

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where half of them are missing? I don't understand.

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And I laughed because, like, I've never had that

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moment. I never had that, like, TV teenage childhood

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moment where your dad criticizes the outfit you're

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wearing. Because, like, oh, my God. Because,

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like, again, I wore Carhartt men's level shit.

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So it was kind of funny. I love it. Okay. This

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week, we'll do a whole episode on thrifting.

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Maybe we'll take you guys with us one day and

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show you like our thrift lines. Yep. We're going

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to talk about myths. Myths about bariatric surgery.

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I'm so excited about this. There's so many. Yeah.

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We get asked a lot of these. We see them everywhere.

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Like, oh my goodness, the amount that we see

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on Reddit or social media. And I was like, it

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is time. Hello, Mufasa from The Lion King. We

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need to talk about the myths. Now, we're obviously

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not experts. It's not like it's like Hannah and

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Steph, 10 years post -op. But we're going to

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tell you about them from our perspective so far.

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And we'll do another episode about this in a

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year and see if our opinions have changed. And

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then a year and a year. So yeah, we're going

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to break down. A lot of them from the perspective

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of six and a half, seven months post -op. Yeah,

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close, close to six months. Six, just hit six.

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Just hit six. And then we'll do just over two

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years. But these are juicy. These are good. And

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the reason we're doing this is a lot of you will

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use these to not have surgery. And this is like

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in no way was that a criticism of you. I think

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what happens is you get inundated with these

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and then you go, oh my God, I don't think I want

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to do this. We both will tell you we don't regret

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the surgery. We wish we did it sooner. And we

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advocate for this so heavily and we're not paid

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to say that. So if we can do anything to convince

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people that this is the best step for them, we

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will. So we're going to actually try to tackle

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some of the things that cause people to back

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out of surgery because they're just not true.

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Or maybe they're true, but not as fearful as

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you need to be. Yeah. Maybe they're a little

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bit out of proportion or mixed messaging or kind

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of have been construed a little bit incorrectly

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through what you've seen or heard. Because there

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are people out there, even in terms of, I know

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this one's not on our list, but as an example,

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pain after surgery, right? I remember before

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I had surgery, like you and I talked about this

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a lot because I'm a wuss. I'd never had surgery.

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I don't like pain. Yes. And there's gas pain

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after surgery. Because they fill you up with

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gas to make room for them to do what they need

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to do. And the gas gets trapped and has to come

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out. So there's gas pain. But I remember seeing

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videos where people after bariatric surgery were

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just going on and on about how they've had kids

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before and they would rather give birth over

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and over again than go through the pain of bariatric

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surgery. I saw people that were like... bawling

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their eyes out in videos after surgery and recovery

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about how much pain they were. And I remember

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like messaging Hannah and being like, is this

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for real? Because I'm not like, I am not okay

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with this. Like hard. No, like, sorry, but no.

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And I remember specifically the ones about childbirth

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and I was like, okay, no, it can't be right.

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If you'd rather push. human out of your body,

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then deal with recovery of bariatric surgery.

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Something is not right here. I think this is

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the good myth to start with because you know

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what? Yeah. Is bariatric surgery more painful

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than childbirth? No. Well, I mean, okay. My kids

00:20:08.859 --> 00:20:12.339
are adopted, so I can't say. I don't have kids

00:20:12.339 --> 00:20:14.980
either, but I'm going to adamantly say no. Yeah.

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From what I've been told, no. And if this is

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more painful than childbirth, I'd be popping

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out 900 kids a year because this was not painful.

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Right. Now, we also had different experiences,

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right? Did I have gas pain? Yes. Was it excruciating?

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No. Was it horrible? No. They did give me IV

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pain medication in the hospital. I didn't even

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know at first that they were giving it to me.

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It was just hooked up to my IV. Yeah. It was

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just hanging there. It wasn't morphine or anything.

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It was, I can't even remember what it's called

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now. Tramadol, I think, which is apparently like

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in between Tylenol and the next step up. But

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I literally had one bag of that. And then afterwards

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they tried to give me Tylenol and it was fine.

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Like, was it uncomfortable? Yeah. Was it painful?

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I wouldn't really say painful. It was discomfort.

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And it was all like, it was annoying. There was

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a little bit of, um, like pressure pain we'll

00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.599
say in my shoulders. Um, but nothing. Your stomach

00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.440
is much higher than you think it is. I think

00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.200
that's the other thing. And it travels, right?

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Because it's pushing, like your stomach will

00:21:29.099 --> 00:21:32.259
push this way. Right. So of course you're going

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to feel it up here. Yeah. But was it anything

00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:40.539
that I couldn't tolerate? No, I will say it was

00:21:40.539 --> 00:21:44.539
fine. It was absolutely fine. Now, we didn't

00:21:44.539 --> 00:21:47.880
have bypass. I probably suspect bypass to be

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a bit different. It is a more invasive surgery.

00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.240
That's probably harder. Are there people who

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have pain after surgery? Yes. And we are not

00:21:55.819 --> 00:21:59.059
discrediting them. There are some people on social

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saying that it was so painful to have sleeves

00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:03.380
specifically that they couldn't put their clothes

00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:05.099
on and they had to have their husbands dress

00:22:05.099 --> 00:22:07.859
them and they couldn't stand for days. Yeah,

00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:09.740
they couldn't stand and they were bedridden for

00:22:09.740 --> 00:22:13.500
days. I think understand your pain threshold,

00:22:13.660 --> 00:22:16.579
but also like total wuss over here as well. And

00:22:16.579 --> 00:22:20.759
was fine. I literally had day surgery, like went

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.880
in at seven, came home at three, was fine. Like

00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.359
walked around my house the next day. So discomfort.

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Yep. If you've ever had to like, how do I explain

00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:35.019
gas pain if you haven't had gas pain? Like a

00:22:35.019 --> 00:22:37.799
pressure. Oh, chugging a pop really quickly or

00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:41.220
drinking a bubbly water really quickly. Yeah,

00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:42.900
you just kind of feel like, oh, could someone

00:22:42.900 --> 00:22:44.880
just poke a hole in my stomach so this all just

00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.460
kind of goes. Or if you've ever had to like,

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and I'm sorry, this is going to be really funny.

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If you ever had a little bit of cramping and

00:22:51.259 --> 00:22:53.920
then you fart and you feel better and you're

00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.880
like. is gas pain. That's what gas pain is. It's

00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.400
like, boy, I really wish I could fart right now.

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Like I just, if I could fart, this cramp would

00:23:01.940 --> 00:23:04.480
go away. Yeah. So like for women, it's going

00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.140
to be, the cramping would be akin to a period

00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:08.400
and not even like a bad period. It wasn't even

00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.720
that bad. My period cramps are worse than recovery

00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.450
from. My surgery. Let's put it that way. And

00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:15.329
the incisions don't hurt. They're itchy, but

00:23:15.329 --> 00:23:17.789
the incisions are less than an inch wide. They

00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:20.829
don't hurt. No. You almost don't even realize

00:23:20.829 --> 00:23:23.509
they're there with the rare exception of sometimes

00:23:23.509 --> 00:23:25.930
it would just like sting for a minute because

00:23:25.930 --> 00:23:29.170
my shirt rubbed against it. Yeah. Or if you pull

00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:32.750
the wrong way. It's like being poked or like

00:23:32.750 --> 00:23:35.650
you touched a paper cut with a hand sanitizer

00:23:35.650 --> 00:23:38.150
for a hot minute. It didn't last long. It was

00:23:38.150 --> 00:23:41.490
more like stuck on my shirt. Okay, hang on. But

00:23:41.490 --> 00:23:44.730
no, the pain of bariatric surgery is not akin

00:23:44.730 --> 00:23:47.670
to childbirth. It's not akin to losing a leg.

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It is not going to, you're not going to be in

00:23:49.769 --> 00:23:51.529
the hospital for weeks and weeks and weeks and

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weeks. There are complications with everything.

00:23:54.589 --> 00:23:56.109
Like you could have complications for having

00:23:56.109 --> 00:23:58.730
your wisdom teeth removed. So sure, there will

00:23:58.730 --> 00:24:00.670
be stories of people who are like, well, I was

00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:02.650
in the hospital vomiting for two months straight.

00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:05.769
You had a complication. And they will tell you

00:24:05.769 --> 00:24:08.619
in surgery, good surgeons will. the complication

00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:12.359
like numbers and when i chose sleeve over bypass

00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:16.920
it's because they were like we've had if we did

00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:19.019
he said i've done 13 this year so far and had

00:24:19.019 --> 00:24:23.160
zero i've done 20 bypass and had two complications

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and they weren't major complications and i said

00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.900
okay and the complications for bypass were a

00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:30.839
lot more scary than the complications for uh

00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:35.200
sleeve so i chose sleeve but This myth, I think

00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.660
we can officially like stamp for the majority

00:24:38.660 --> 00:24:42.259
of you. It is not going to be that painful. And

00:24:42.259 --> 00:24:44.519
the whole purpose of the surgery is that you're

00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:46.799
supposed to be on your feet. Like literally you're

00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.259
supposed to be up and walking. They make you

00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:51.960
walk in the hospital after surgery. So obviously

00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.839
like you're not supposed to be anyway in a lot

00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.940
of pain. I know my friend who's a nurse was like,

00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.900
you know, they have the morphine buttons at the

00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:04.039
beds and so they will track. you can only push

00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.440
it a certain amount of times an hour. And she's

00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.759
like, bariatric surgery patients are at the top

00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:10.519
for like just pushing the button. And I was like,

00:25:10.539 --> 00:25:12.819
you might've just seen the worst case because

00:25:12.819 --> 00:25:15.720
A, I was not hooked up to a morphine button at

00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.119
all. And I was like, I was not in pain. I was

00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.079
tired. I was cranky. I was grumpy and in discomfort,

00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.700
but I was not on pain meds after. I had no complications,

00:25:26.980 --> 00:25:28.980
knock on wood, which was great. And even if I

00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:32.079
did have complications, they would be. Basically

00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:35.500
vomiting, having nausea, having heartburn. Again,

00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:38.859
not things that are akin to childbirth pain.

00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.240
So you're not going to wake up in excruciating

00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.299
pain. You won't be in pain for weeks. I'd say

00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:46.400
that I had more pain after wisdom teeth surgery

00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.180
than I ever did after bariatric surgery. Agreed.

00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.180
Agreed. Like I said, my period cramps hurt more.

00:25:52.380 --> 00:25:54.980
Yeah. I've had worse periods than this surgery.

00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:56.799
I didn't take Tylenol. Like when they go home,

00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:59.420
they say, you know, they sent me home with Percocet.

00:26:00.379 --> 00:26:02.240
Which I was like, dude, I'm like, I didn't even

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.500
take Tylenol at the hospital. Why are you sending

00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:06.880
me home with Percocet? Whole nother issue. But

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.059
I didn't even take Tylenol at home. I did, I

00:26:10.059 --> 00:26:15.559
will say on day two, well, no, day three -ish,

00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:18.740
I think. I did have a little bit of soreness,

00:26:18.740 --> 00:26:21.259
like going from laying down to sitting up. Okay.

00:26:21.529 --> 00:26:23.609
But it was almost, it only felt like, you know,

00:26:23.630 --> 00:26:25.369
like if you do like a good ab workout the day

00:26:25.369 --> 00:26:27.109
before and then you want to get up and you're

00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:29.690
just like a little like, oh, there she is. But

00:26:29.690 --> 00:26:34.230
again, nothing that I, that was not. It's not

00:26:34.230 --> 00:26:36.890
like having a C -section. We've talked to enough

00:26:36.890 --> 00:26:38.430
people who've had this that have had children.

00:26:38.910 --> 00:26:42.910
It's almost like a hernia, not pain, sorry, but

00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.750
it's you act like you've had a hernia as in don't

00:26:45.750 --> 00:26:48.029
lift heavy objects, you know, be careful that

00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:51.480
you don't strain. those muscles let things heal

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.460
but there was no cramping charlie horses there

00:26:54.460 --> 00:26:56.519
was nothing like again every now and then you

00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.420
get that little like electrical on the incision

00:26:59.420 --> 00:27:02.039
because it gets snagged on a shirt or it just

00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.579
rubs the wrong way it's less than a second and

00:27:04.579 --> 00:27:08.339
it's not painful it's more just like um but yes

00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:10.519
there are complications people can have i do

00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.759
understand that but for the vast majority of

00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:16.559
you no please please do not let this fear that

00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.039
this is excruciating prevent you from doing surgery?

00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:22.059
Because we have spoken to a lot of people, a

00:27:22.059 --> 00:27:24.059
lot. And sure, there's always going to be exceptions

00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:27.460
to the rule. For sure. This is a very minimal

00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:30.880
pain surgery. That's why they're doing day surgery.

00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.200
They wouldn't do day surgery if you were in like

00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.400
excruciating pain. No, definitely not. Yeah.

00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:40.099
So that's one myth. Done. Another myth that we

00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:43.299
hear often is, and I have my little list. You'll

00:27:43.299 --> 00:27:47.599
never be able to eat normally again. And this

00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.160
myth keeps people from ever doing surgery. And

00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.960
you'll see it on Reddit all the time. Oh man,

00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:56.920
like I know this person with bariatric surgery

00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.019
and like they're barely eating half a cup and

00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:01.740
they just eat boiled chicken. Like, am I going

00:28:01.740 --> 00:28:03.920
to be eating like this forever? Or you'll see

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.700
people who've had surgery. Oh my God, I'm only

00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:09.380
able to eat. Like, am I going to be like this

00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:14.609
forever? Missed food. And it's like. So let's

00:28:14.609 --> 00:28:17.349
put a little logic behind this one. If you're

00:28:17.349 --> 00:28:21.150
two months post -op, you're obviously eating

00:28:21.150 --> 00:28:24.029
mushy food. Your food sucks. Let's be honest.

00:28:24.289 --> 00:28:27.329
Because you're two months post -op. No, that's

00:28:27.329 --> 00:28:29.470
not going to be your life forever. Like, are

00:28:29.470 --> 00:28:32.130
you frigging kidding? Do you follow anybody who's

00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:34.009
had bariatric surgery? How would your body survive?

00:28:34.650 --> 00:28:37.269
Let's be realistic, right? Because I remember,

00:28:37.289 --> 00:28:39.210
too, post -op when I was having, like, those

00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:42.440
tiny little two -ounce bowls of soup. Oh yeah.

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:44.400
And I remember, I remember it like it fit in

00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.519
like the palm of my hand. And I remember people

00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.359
being like, Oh my God, that's all you're reading.

00:28:48.859 --> 00:28:52.240
And I was like, okay, I'm like a month out of

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.359
surgery. My stomach is still swollen. My incisions

00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.299
are not healed. My staples are not healed. Um,

00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.900
let's be realistic for a second. Do you think

00:29:00.900 --> 00:29:04.539
I could physically sustain myself if I only ate

00:29:04.539 --> 00:29:08.220
that for the rest of my life? No. Like think,

00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:13.289
think about it. No, no, no. So there's two parts

00:29:13.289 --> 00:29:15.630
to this. Let's tackle the portion size part and

00:29:15.630 --> 00:29:18.529
then we'll tackle like the, oh, all I eat is

00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.470
chicken. So no, your portion sizes will grow.

00:29:21.710 --> 00:29:24.329
Now, keep in mind, because people will always

00:29:24.329 --> 00:29:27.089
double down on this and go, oh my God, is this

00:29:27.089 --> 00:29:29.369
all I'm ever going to be able to eat? Can I go

00:29:29.369 --> 00:29:32.720
back to eating normally? Break down what normal

00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.240
is. How you ate before surgery is not normal.

00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:39.559
It's not normal. And we know portion sizes in

00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.559
North America, because Canada is very guilty

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.559
of this as well, portion sizes are terrible in

00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.480
North America. So getting your plate, your dinner

00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.299
plate, and putting food on it, and even if you

00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:53.180
didn't pile your food on it, I guarantee you,

00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:55.220
you were over -portioning regardless. Even if

00:29:55.220 --> 00:29:56.859
you were like, no, my plate was very balanced.

00:29:56.900 --> 00:29:59.960
Yes, but I guarantee overeating. I guarantee

00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:02.349
you have... way more rice than you think you

00:30:02.349 --> 00:30:05.130
do way more vegetables and way more like your

00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.230
serving sizes are not great because if you actually

00:30:07.230 --> 00:30:09.130
look at the serving sizes of things and we should

00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:11.869
do an episode on it blows your fucking mind what

00:30:11.869 --> 00:30:13.869
a serving size is it's like half of what you

00:30:13.869 --> 00:30:17.650
think it is usually yeah yeah so You shouldn't

00:30:17.650 --> 00:30:19.650
be eating like you did before surgery. That is

00:30:19.650 --> 00:30:21.930
the old you talking. You are mourning the loss

00:30:21.930 --> 00:30:24.769
of food. You need to get out of that headspace

00:30:24.769 --> 00:30:27.890
sooner rather than later and embrace the new

00:30:27.890 --> 00:30:29.930
way that you're eating. There's a new normal.

00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:32.630
You cannot go back to that because you actually,

00:30:32.670 --> 00:30:36.410
you can, and that's what regain comes from. And

00:30:36.410 --> 00:30:39.630
that's why a ton of bariatric people, it's an

00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:42.529
alarming statistic of 30%, regain the weight

00:30:42.529 --> 00:30:44.809
and then some because you absolutely can go back

00:30:44.809 --> 00:30:48.549
to this. don't. So the portion sizes before they

00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:53.029
weren't normal. You will end normally being able

00:30:53.029 --> 00:30:57.329
to eat a cup. And I am two years post -op. I

00:30:57.329 --> 00:30:59.910
am basically at a cup. I would say I'm still

00:30:59.910 --> 00:31:04.269
not, my stomach just went like, I know it's the

00:31:04.269 --> 00:31:08.250
strawberries. My, my plate, I'm still not quite

00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:11.430
finishing entirely. So I am getting to a cup,

00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:14.170
but I will end at a cup. I will eat one cup of

00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:17.630
food and that is half a cup being protein, a

00:31:17.630 --> 00:31:19.890
quarter being a veg and a quarter being carbs.

00:31:20.029 --> 00:31:21.769
Now you can play with, you know, a third of a

00:31:21.769 --> 00:31:23.369
cup of this. Yeah. Depending on what you're having.

00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:26.549
Yeah. But that is normal. Like a cup of food

00:31:26.549 --> 00:31:30.150
is normal and that is going to be your new normal,

00:31:30.230 --> 00:31:34.269
but I'm not starving. Right. And that's the thing.

00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:36.829
You're not, I'm not, and people can't get over

00:31:36.829 --> 00:31:38.829
that when they see, because I'm at, depending

00:31:38.829 --> 00:31:43.079
on what it is, I'm at like a quarter cup. like

00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.319
two ounces. So I'll do like two ounces of meat

00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.119
is my typical thing. And then a little bit of

00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.259
something. So like two ounces of chicken with

00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:52.339
a little bit of lettuce or two ounces of chicken

00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:54.200
with a little bit of broccoli. Well, cause you

00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.680
also just got to the raw vegetable stage, right?

00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.539
Like you're now actually allowed to have raw

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:01.380
veggies. Yeah. I've just started to, I'm like

00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:04.700
a couple months into the raw veggies, which was

00:32:04.700 --> 00:32:07.829
so. I've never craved salad so much in my life.

00:32:08.650 --> 00:32:10.690
But yeah, you can't have, at least in our program,

00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:13.049
like I couldn't have raw veggies for three months,

00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:16.849
corn for three months, certain other foods for

00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:18.509
three months. I just, now that I'm six months,

00:32:18.569 --> 00:32:22.309
can have pork and red meat. So I just hit that

00:32:22.309 --> 00:32:27.039
yesterday. But I'm usually at about... If I do

00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.000
a cottage cheese bowl, for example, it's a quarter

00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.839
cup of cottage cheese. When I do my food, it's

00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.480
two ounces of a chicken or a turkey and then,

00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:36.099
like I said, a little bit of veg or something

00:32:36.099 --> 00:32:41.160
mixed in. But people constantly, is that all

00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.799
you're having? Well, first of all, yeah, and

00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.180
I'm stuffed after. I'm not sitting here starving

00:32:48.180 --> 00:32:50.660
myself. I am not hungry. I'm eating every two

00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:54.059
hours. I'm eating when I'm hungry. I am not.

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.619
going to bed hungry ever. I'm never sitting here

00:32:57.619 --> 00:32:59.779
going, oh my God, I just want some food. Because

00:32:59.779 --> 00:33:02.400
if I was feeling like that, I would eat something.

00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.200
Exactly. It's not, yeah, it's not as starving.

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:06.940
And I even had this conversation last night.

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:11.420
I was at a function and it was a buffet dinner

00:33:11.420 --> 00:33:14.440
and we're standing in line. Okay. And I kind

00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.640
of jokingly said, there's a kid's price and an

00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.519
adult price. And I jokingly said, man, I should

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.460
have got to pay for the kid's price. Because

00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:23.200
let's be honest, I'm eating less than my kids

00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.930
are. realistically. And so we were laughing and

00:33:25.930 --> 00:33:29.329
then the comment was made, you know, like, I

00:33:29.329 --> 00:33:32.269
just worry, like, are you, are you going to be

00:33:32.269 --> 00:33:34.710
able to like sustain yourself? And I was like,

00:33:34.730 --> 00:33:36.849
what? And they were like, well, are you going

00:33:36.849 --> 00:33:38.589
to like eating like this forever? Like, I just

00:33:38.589 --> 00:33:40.650
worry that you're, you're not going to be able

00:33:40.650 --> 00:33:42.769
to sustain yourself. And so I had to explain

00:33:42.769 --> 00:33:46.950
that, no, I will get up to that full cup or those

00:33:46.950 --> 00:33:51.579
1500 calories, but I have to work my way. To

00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:54.220
that point. Yes. And then you could see they

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:56.200
were like, oh, so you're not going to eat like

00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.680
this forever. You're not always going to only

00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.259
have this much food. No. Yeah. Again, think about

00:34:02.259 --> 00:34:04.140
it. No, I would not be able to sustain myself.

00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:07.700
Correct. If that's all I ate. Exactly. Yeah.

00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:10.559
So no, you do have crap food at the beginning

00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.460
and you do have little portions at the beginning,

00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.769
but that's not permanent. No. And I think. The

00:34:16.769 --> 00:34:18.730
other thing is people, Bo is just barking like

00:34:18.730 --> 00:34:21.489
a lunatic right now. People seem to have a bigger

00:34:21.489 --> 00:34:23.809
problem with it than you do. So you'll have a

00:34:23.809 --> 00:34:25.409
lot of people comment like, is that all you're

00:34:25.409 --> 00:34:27.690
eating? Or just watching. You can feel them like

00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:30.110
watching you sit there with your plate. Just

00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:33.550
know I feel fine. I am having more than enough

00:34:33.550 --> 00:34:37.710
and I feel fine. So yes, you'll be able to eat

00:34:37.710 --> 00:34:41.110
normally again where you have some meat, some

00:34:41.110 --> 00:34:44.949
veggies, some carbs. Like, yes, but also. It's

00:34:44.949 --> 00:34:47.389
the new normal because you got into the situation

00:34:47.389 --> 00:34:49.710
for a reason. You hear me say that all the time.

00:34:49.909 --> 00:34:52.250
You don't want to eat the way you ate before.

00:34:52.489 --> 00:34:54.809
Like you just don't. I had somebody say that

00:34:54.809 --> 00:34:57.230
I used to work with who was like, oh man, but

00:34:57.230 --> 00:34:58.389
like, does that mean that you're never going

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:00.869
to have that feeling of like just being so hungry

00:35:00.869 --> 00:35:02.769
and you sit and eat like just a ton of food and

00:35:02.769 --> 00:35:05.599
you feel so good after? And I was like. no. And

00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.699
I never want to get back there. Like I never

00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:10.159
felt good because I would binge a ton of food.

00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:12.559
I was like, I feel very full. There's tons of

00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:14.460
times after eating that I still get that feeling

00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:16.599
of like, man, that was such a good meal. Like

00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.739
I am stuffed. Like you need to eat different

00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:22.780
portion sizes, but whatever you think of as normal

00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:26.239
before surgery or early into surgery, you really

00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:29.920
need to rethink that because it. It's not you're

00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.639
never going to eat the way you ate before in

00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.380
terms of portion sizes. But yeah, you're not

00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:35.099
going to be on soup for the rest of your life.

00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.059
And yes, you're not just going to be eating chicken.

00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:40.420
And here comes part two to this myth of will

00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:43.519
I be able to eat normally again, which is will

00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.860
I ever be able to have carbs? I can't have fruit.

00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:48.739
I just have to eat chicken. So like this all

00:35:48.739 --> 00:35:52.480
kind of falls into this notion of. Oh, I'm only

00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.460
ever going to be eating the most boring crap

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:56.400
ever for the rest of my life. I don't want to

00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.699
have surgery because I'm a foodie. I love food.

00:35:59.820 --> 00:36:05.059
I can't imagine giving up food. A, if your whole

00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:07.079
life surrounds around food, you should probably

00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.219
have surgery and really think about it. I have

00:36:12.219 --> 00:36:14.280
this huge problem with like, why is every social

00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.849
outing ever food related? Like if you and I,

00:36:19.889 --> 00:36:21.449
Steph, were to get together and call it like

00:36:21.449 --> 00:36:24.190
a bariatric meeting, I absolutely would not have

00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:25.789
food there. I'd be like, why don't we go for

00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:28.530
a walk? Why don't we get a like a protein coffee

00:36:28.530 --> 00:36:31.510
and hang out? Like, why are we still surrounded

00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:34.849
by every time we get together? There does not

00:36:34.849 --> 00:36:36.309
need to be food because all you're going to do

00:36:36.309 --> 00:36:38.849
is mindlessly graze and eat. And it's kind of

00:36:38.849 --> 00:36:42.630
shocking how many bariatric people feel like

00:36:42.630 --> 00:36:43.989
they need to bring food every time they hang

00:36:43.989 --> 00:36:46.039
out with each other, too. And I'm like. But why?

00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:48.900
You're post -op bariatric patients. You should

00:36:48.900 --> 00:36:51.900
be going for a walk instead. Because they haven't

00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:55.019
done the mindset work and the mindset shift that

00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:58.239
food isn't the only thing that can bring you

00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.219
joy and happiness, right? You don't need food

00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:06.989
to be a part of every interaction. And you kind

00:37:06.989 --> 00:37:09.190
of need to rethink that. Like just because there's

00:37:09.190 --> 00:37:10.710
a group of people hanging out does not mean there

00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:13.190
needs to be food. And you really need to separate

00:37:13.190 --> 00:37:15.849
your love language yourself from this notion

00:37:15.849 --> 00:37:18.329
that food, food, food, food, food. Like it's,

00:37:18.329 --> 00:37:21.030
I understand that food is a comfort, like when

00:37:21.030 --> 00:37:24.030
people are grieving and whatnot that I get, but

00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:26.480
yeah, it's just kind of shocking how. every single,

00:37:26.539 --> 00:37:28.199
like, just look at it. Look at every single time

00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.340
you hang out with someone. I guarantee you food

00:37:30.340 --> 00:37:32.760
is probably related. Let's go out for lunch.

00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.440
Come on over. I put some crackers out. I have

00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.719
this out. Like we're going to have a meetup and

00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.300
everybody bring a dessert. Like it's just. It's

00:37:39.300 --> 00:37:41.760
everywhere. And it's for us, like too, I know

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.179
we've talked about this too. Like it's a cultural

00:37:43.179 --> 00:37:45.480
thing, right? As soon as somebody's coming by,

00:37:45.659 --> 00:37:47.719
oh my gosh, I don't have any food to put out

00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.159
or, oh, people are coming over tomorrow. I got

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.599
to go to the store and get food. So here's the

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.360
thing. Like. It can be, it can definitely be

00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.500
hard to break. It is a mindset shift. It can

00:37:56.500 --> 00:37:58.179
be a cultural thing. It can be whatever it is.

00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.719
And so if you're going to do that, then still,

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.219
like you said, there's a lot of these where it's

00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:08.699
still like, it's still crap. It's still like

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:10.699
desserts. It's still chips. It's still this.

00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:12.599
If you're going to do that, then let's at least

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.960
do the veggies and the fruit. And let's at least

00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.710
do the healthier. Because, yes, we do eat fruits

00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:21.989
and vegetables and carbs. I had fruits with my

00:38:21.989 --> 00:38:24.230
yogurt this morning. I have strawberries right

00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:30.070
here. Right. So it's a shift, right? It is. And

00:38:30.070 --> 00:38:34.670
I think it's like just pay attention to how often.

00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.559
what you do involves a restaurant or involves

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.739
bringing stuff like even with the best intentions

00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:42.480
right every time you hang out with certain people

00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.019
it's always got food involved even again with

00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:47.039
the best intentions like it's healthy food or

00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.039
it's just stop and go right but should we be

00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.920
sitting inside and just eating every time we

00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.139
hang out like maybe we could go for a walk or

00:38:55.139 --> 00:38:57.679
be outside or do some like bariatric friendly

00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.039
like even like why don't we go grocery shopping

00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.340
or why don't we meal prep right like I think

00:39:02.340 --> 00:39:04.739
there's other things that can be done but this

00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.559
brings up the, okay, so I'll never be able to

00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.579
eat fruit or carbs or X, Y, Z again. Like I love

00:39:10.579 --> 00:39:12.420
pizza or I love pasta. And are you saying I'll

00:39:12.420 --> 00:39:14.599
never have it again? Nope. You can absolutely,

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.960
especially when you get further out, you can

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.119
reintroduce every single thing into your diet.

00:39:19.300 --> 00:39:21.719
There are plenty of bariatric influencers that

00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.719
eat at fast food chains. Cause I know eating

00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.199
out is, is kind of like a really big cultural

00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.639
thing in the U S that they do often. And they

00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.480
will give you hacks on, you know, you've all

00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.469
seen the videos, I'm sure of the Chick -fil -A

00:39:33.469 --> 00:39:36.030
kale salad with the grilled nuggies, you know,

00:39:36.030 --> 00:39:39.809
300 calories, X amount of protein. Everything

00:39:39.809 --> 00:39:44.400
can fit back in. Yes. Everything can fit back

00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.519
in. People eat pasta. People eat rice. People

00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.340
eat carbs. Carbs are not the enemy. I have carbs

00:39:50.340 --> 00:39:53.219
in my diet. It is part of the bariatric plan

00:39:53.219 --> 00:39:55.840
that we've had where, again, they say, you know,

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.280
half a cup of protein, a quarter cup of veggies

00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.000
or, you know, a third a cup of veggies and a

00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.880
quarter cup of carbs and the rest is protein.

00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.139
Carbs fuel your body in no way. Should you be

00:40:07.139 --> 00:40:09.139
going keto? We've said that on another podcast,

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:11.400
why you should not be going keto and why the

00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:14.099
bariatric clinic we went to tells you not to

00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:16.780
go keto. It's very high fat and you're not supposed

00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:19.719
to be on a high fat diet after surgery. Carbs

00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.840
are fine in moderation. Like don't eat a whole

00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.780
loaf of bread. Don't be having three cups of

00:40:25.780 --> 00:40:28.400
rice. Like carbs don't sit well in my stomach,

00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.880
but they will for others. So again, moderation.

00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:33.860
Yeah. And tracking, like we've talked about.

00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.820
If it fits in your day, go for it, right? But

00:40:37.820 --> 00:40:39.880
if you've planned out your day and all of a sudden

00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:41.719
you want pizza for dinner, or all of a sudden

00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.780
the family's getting pizza for dinner, if you've

00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:47.199
already planned out your day and it doesn't fit

00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.260
in your day, then you probably shouldn't have

00:40:51.260 --> 00:40:53.900
it. Find something else. Have a cottage cheese

00:40:53.900 --> 00:40:57.300
pizza bowl, make pizza with a low carb tortilla,

00:40:57.460 --> 00:41:01.300
or just don't have it all together. But if you

00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:04.739
really want the piece of pizza, that's your choice,

00:41:05.059 --> 00:41:07.559
right? Nobody is saying you can't have pizza

00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.619
after bariatric surgery. But it needs to fit

00:41:11.619 --> 00:41:15.239
into your calories and your macros for the day.

00:41:15.300 --> 00:41:19.139
And if it can, go for it. Have your pizza, right?

00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.739
Have it in moderation. Have complex carbs. You

00:41:21.739 --> 00:41:23.739
know, those are like sweet potatoes, quinoa,

00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:26.860
things like that. But yes, you can absolutely

00:41:26.860 --> 00:41:29.079
like I have recipes and I've shared recipes where

00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.400
I've made tacos. I've made little burgers. I've

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:34.920
made quesadillas. I've had chicken wings. I've

00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.500
done chicken nuggets. I've had, I don't know,

00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.699
potato dishes. I've had things. I still, you

00:41:42.699 --> 00:41:44.659
know, have little treats like I have Greek yogurt

00:41:44.659 --> 00:41:46.940
bars or I've made my muffins that I like. Like,

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.840
yes, you absolutely can fit this stuff back in.

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.670
But I will tell you. It won't be the same as

00:41:53.670 --> 00:41:55.409
before. You're not going to be eating a whole

00:41:55.409 --> 00:41:57.809
pizza. You actually probably won't even be craving

00:41:57.809 --> 00:42:01.730
pizza. I do not crave pasta. I do not crave pizza.

00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:04.510
Bread is a thing. And I do keep bread. I buy

00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:07.289
a very specific bread. It's shaped like a circle.

00:42:07.449 --> 00:42:09.829
It's called malt bread. Dempster's makes it.

00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:12.449
I love it. It's only 50 calories a slice. Like

00:42:12.449 --> 00:42:14.789
I love having bread and butter with my breakfast.

00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:17.610
I still have hash browns in the fridge. Like

00:42:17.610 --> 00:42:19.170
every now and then I want to have a little like

00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.880
egg and hash brown scramble for breakfast. Like

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:26.000
I fit in what I want to fit in from those, but

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.900
like vegetables and carbs or vegetables, fruits

00:42:28.900 --> 00:42:31.300
and carbs are not the enemy. I have apples. I

00:42:31.300 --> 00:42:34.869
have bananas. I have strawberries that I snack

00:42:34.869 --> 00:42:38.190
on in the summer. Tangerines are great. I'm obviously

00:42:38.190 --> 00:42:41.230
not sitting here eating like 52 tangerines a

00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:43.989
day. But fruit is very important in your diet.

00:42:44.090 --> 00:42:45.590
I have fruit and vegetables every day. Yes. If

00:42:45.590 --> 00:42:47.070
anybody tells you that you're not supposed to

00:42:47.070 --> 00:42:49.170
be eating fruit after surgery, please promptly

00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:51.329
leave that group. Get out of that conversation.

00:42:51.710 --> 00:42:54.369
That's total horseshit. Vegetables or fruit are

00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:57.429
so important for your body. And yes, they absolutely

00:42:57.429 --> 00:43:02.619
fit in. Fruit, sugar, I don't. Like I keep an

00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:04.320
eye on how much fruit I'm having, but I keep

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.119
my sugar to 10 grams of sugar or less. I do not

00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.199
include my fruit in that because then I'd never

00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.360
be able to have fruit. But I keep an eye on the

00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:14.280
volume of fruit that I eat. So like I weigh this

00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.719
container and then I eat some strawberries out

00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.119
of it and I make sure I'm not eating more than

00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.500
like a half a cup of strawberries. But you can

00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:23.940
eat fruit. You can eat carbs. You probably won't

00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:26.139
crave carbs as much after. I'm going to be perfectly

00:43:26.139 --> 00:43:29.489
honest. You probably won't. But any food that

00:43:29.489 --> 00:43:31.289
you're thinking of, I can guarantee you, you

00:43:31.289 --> 00:43:34.690
can have after. It will be up to you. The power

00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:37.150
is yours. Bonus tips if anybody knows what that

00:43:37.150 --> 00:43:39.849
is. It'll be up to you to make sure you make

00:43:39.849 --> 00:43:42.469
the right choices because could I go and eat

00:43:42.469 --> 00:43:45.570
a bunch of chicken wings? Yeah, absolutely. That's

00:43:45.570 --> 00:43:48.650
high fat. It's not great for me. I probably shouldn't.

00:43:48.650 --> 00:43:50.989
So you will be able to eat things that you think

00:43:50.989 --> 00:43:53.130
that you won't be able to. You must have the

00:43:53.130 --> 00:43:57.010
willpower or just the discipline to make better

00:43:57.010 --> 00:44:00.989
choices. But if you're not having surgery because,

00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:03.590
oh, I'm not going to be able to eat carbs or

00:44:03.590 --> 00:44:05.230
I'm not going to be able to eat the way I did

00:44:05.230 --> 00:44:07.409
before and I have to eat these tiny portion sizes,

00:44:07.650 --> 00:44:12.170
do not back out of surgery for that. You're forgetting

00:44:12.170 --> 00:44:15.150
that how you feel pre -surgery is not how you

00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:18.769
feel after. You won't physically be hungry after.

00:44:19.309 --> 00:44:22.750
And it's this kind of notion that's just shocking

00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:26.719
of. Well, everything I do is like it's you're

00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.440
saying it without saying it. Everything I do

00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.599
involves food. And now my life is going to have

00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.380
no food. How depressing. But now your life has

00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:35.480
been opened to a world where your world doesn't

00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:39.840
revolve around food. That is not depressing.

00:44:40.260 --> 00:44:42.500
It's depressing to not have surgery because of

00:44:42.500 --> 00:44:45.199
food, because you're again letting food control

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.599
your life. Yeah, you're filling your life with

00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.489
so many new. experiences and adventures and options

00:44:52.489 --> 00:44:57.050
that before a lot of the food noise, at least

00:44:57.050 --> 00:45:00.690
for me, came from boredom. Because if I wasn't

00:45:00.690 --> 00:45:02.449
doing something and I was bored, well, I might

00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:04.269
as well just eat. Might as well eat. But now

00:45:04.269 --> 00:45:08.289
you're not bored. Because you're up and you're

00:45:08.289 --> 00:45:10.170
moving and you're doing things and you're exercising

00:45:10.170 --> 00:45:13.369
and you're walking and you're going on new adventures.

00:45:13.449 --> 00:45:15.889
You're doing new experiences. The world has opened

00:45:15.889 --> 00:45:18.190
up to things you couldn't do before. That you're

00:45:18.190 --> 00:45:21.809
not just sitting on the couch, watching TV, eating,

00:45:22.030 --> 00:45:26.130
going, gosh, I wish I could do this. I wish I

00:45:26.130 --> 00:45:28.010
could do this. I really would love to go do this.

00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:30.329
It's a beautiful day out. You're now actually

00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.329
out there enjoying the beautiful day. And all

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:34.849
of a sudden you go, oh, it's been a couple hours.

00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:37.360
I should probably. You should probably eat something.

00:45:38.019 --> 00:45:40.239
Not because all you're thinking about is the

00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:45.639
food. Exactly. Exactly. So myth busted. No, you

00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.519
won't always be eating small portions. Yes, you'll

00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.699
be eating smaller portions than before surgery.

00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.239
And yes, you can eat anything after that you

00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.119
previously did. It's just up to you to determine,

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:58.760
should I be eating that? Let's do a few rapid

00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.260
fire ones here at the end. This is a good one.

00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.840
You're guaranteed to lose all your excess weight.

00:46:05.139 --> 00:46:08.349
I wish. It's not true. Nothing in life is guaranteed,

00:46:08.449 --> 00:46:10.550
guys. Nothing is guaranteed. It's not a magic

00:46:10.550 --> 00:46:12.489
pill. We've talked about this before. No. It's

00:46:12.489 --> 00:46:14.869
not a magic solution. Nothing in life is guaranteed.

00:46:15.050 --> 00:46:18.409
You need to bust your butt. This goes back to

00:46:18.409 --> 00:46:20.889
the whole, like, you took the easy way out. You're

00:46:20.889 --> 00:46:22.449
lazy. You don't want to put in the work. You're

00:46:22.449 --> 00:46:23.650
just going to have surgery and lose all your

00:46:23.650 --> 00:46:27.210
weight. I flippin' wish that was the case. I

00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:29.909
wish. And I wish I wasn't getting up at 4 .45

00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:32.550
to work out every day. And I wish I wasn't tracking

00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:36.539
my food. And I wish I, like, no. No. You will

00:46:36.539 --> 00:46:39.000
lose weight, but you got to work your ass off.

00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.039
Literally. Literally. Most clinics will not give

00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.400
you a number. You could ask till you're blue

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.599
in the face and they won't tell you. Most clinics

00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:51.519
will say things like, well, uh, you know, we

00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.099
see an average of 30 to 60%, but we can't tell

00:46:55.099 --> 00:46:57.159
you where you'll fall in that. They won't even

00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.360
tell you what percentage, like if you are where

00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.179
you're supposed to be on your followup calls,

00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:03.659
because I would ask all the time, like, am I

00:47:03.659 --> 00:47:05.059
where I'm supposed to be? And they were like,

00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.460
what? you're you're fine and I'm like don't tell

00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:09.699
me like am I ahead of the curve am I behind where

00:47:09.699 --> 00:47:12.179
I'm supposed to be they won't tell you that but

00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:15.179
use the online calculators if you want but please

00:47:15.179 --> 00:47:17.960
just understand that it's like not everybody

00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:21.239
gets to 70 weight loss so that's the other thing

00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:22.719
when you're picking between the two surgeries

00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.860
and they say well bypass can lose up to 80 and

00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:30.480
sleeve 70 it's not it's not uncommon but it's

00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.400
also not common for people to be at the end of

00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.570
that scale a lot of people don't fall there.

00:47:35.650 --> 00:47:37.590
Like that's why they tell you in bariatric surgery,

00:47:37.849 --> 00:47:42.130
you know, you could lose 30 % up to X. The bulk

00:47:42.130 --> 00:47:45.510
of people actually fall at the low end of what

00:47:45.510 --> 00:47:49.210
they lose. So you have to understand that you're

00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:51.489
not going to just magically lose 60 to 70 % of

00:47:51.489 --> 00:47:53.690
your excess weight. Some people lose over, but

00:47:53.690 --> 00:47:56.309
it's more common that you'll be at the 30, maybe

00:47:56.309 --> 00:47:58.860
40. And then you'll have to work. You'll have

00:47:58.860 --> 00:48:00.960
to put the work in after that to get where you

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.840
want to get. So no, you are not guaranteed that

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.780
you're going to lose the weight. If anything,

00:48:05.940 --> 00:48:09.079
the reason they won't give you a number on where

00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.800
you'll be is because you're going to set yourself

00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.139
up for disappointment. If you think that like,

00:48:14.139 --> 00:48:16.059
well, I'm going to lose 80 % of my weight and

00:48:16.059 --> 00:48:18.179
then you lose 30. You're going to be pissed.

00:48:18.659 --> 00:48:20.039
And then you're going to throw in the towel.

00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.320
You're probably going to be part of that regain.

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.900
You're going to say, what's the point? Exactly.

00:48:24.900 --> 00:48:26.760
No. And there are a ton of people like they're

00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.380
slow losers and fast losers. But there are a

00:48:29.380 --> 00:48:32.420
lot of people who are like four, five, six months

00:48:32.420 --> 00:48:35.420
post -op where you can tell like, oh, they're

00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:38.079
where they're going to be. That's it. And you'll

00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:39.960
see them post on videos like is I'm only going

00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.739
to lose 50 pounds like this is it. Some that

00:48:42.739 --> 00:48:46.179
is it for some people. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a

00:48:46.179 --> 00:48:48.719
combination of things like it's not because surgery

00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.389
failed. It's probably because there's some decisions

00:48:52.389 --> 00:48:54.170
that are being made behind the scenes that they

00:48:54.170 --> 00:48:56.210
don't want to admit. Some eating choices, some

00:48:56.210 --> 00:48:58.869
exercise choices, some other choices. But yes,

00:48:59.030 --> 00:49:01.670
myth that you will lose all your excess weight.

00:49:02.449 --> 00:49:05.250
Nope, you absolutely won't. So don't go into

00:49:05.250 --> 00:49:07.369
this thinking that in a year you're going to

00:49:07.369 --> 00:49:11.010
shed everything. Here's another myth. I will

00:49:11.010 --> 00:49:12.929
lose all the weight I need to lose in my first

00:49:12.929 --> 00:49:17.699
year. Nope. It takes an average of, I think,

00:49:17.699 --> 00:49:21.300
18 to 36 months. They honestly say it takes almost

00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:24.840
three years to get where you want to get. Now,

00:49:24.860 --> 00:49:28.300
do people get there faster? Sure. But the average

00:49:28.300 --> 00:49:30.820
person takes three years to get to their goal

00:49:30.820 --> 00:49:34.880
weight. Yeah. So keep that in mind. And it goes

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.820
back to you didn't get there overnight. You didn't

00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:40.420
get to where you were overnight. You're not going

00:49:40.420 --> 00:49:41.920
to get to where you want to be overnight either.

00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.639
Correct. It takes time. It takes work. It takes

00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.280
effort. And you will need to do this work for

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:50.809
the rest of your life. Yeah. So don't go into

00:49:50.809 --> 00:49:53.150
this expecting to see miraculously everything

00:49:53.150 --> 00:49:55.170
come off in your first year. You will see fast

00:49:55.170 --> 00:49:57.210
weight loss in your first year, but you probably

00:49:57.210 --> 00:50:00.570
will not get to your goal weight or get where

00:50:00.570 --> 00:50:02.730
you finally want to get until closer to your

00:50:02.730 --> 00:50:05.050
second and third year. I can attest to that.

00:50:05.130 --> 00:50:08.130
I am still not exactly where I want to be, and

00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:10.289
it probably will take me till the better part

00:50:10.289 --> 00:50:11.889
at the end of this year to get where I want to

00:50:11.889 --> 00:50:14.530
get. And that's fine. Like, I'm not in a rush.

00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:20.190
It takes time. Trust the process. Trust the process.

00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:24.710
Yeah, the guaranteed weight loss one is very

00:50:24.710 --> 00:50:33.510
funny. We did that one. I think, okay. Uh -oh.

00:50:33.750 --> 00:50:37.449
You can never regain the weight if you are successful

00:50:37.449 --> 00:50:41.889
in your first few years. That's crap. That's

00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:44.530
a lie. That's crap. That's a lie. You're definitely

00:50:44.530 --> 00:50:46.469
good. You can regain the weight 10 years out.

00:50:46.530 --> 00:50:49.130
You can regain at any point. There are tons of

00:50:49.130 --> 00:50:50.809
people who are 10 years post -op that are now

00:50:50.809 --> 00:50:53.769
struggling with regain. So that's a lie. It doesn't

00:50:53.769 --> 00:50:55.369
matter how successful you are at the beginning.

00:50:55.409 --> 00:50:58.489
Now they will say there are some long -term success

00:50:58.489 --> 00:51:04.289
markers that usually will help the team determine

00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:06.730
if you will be successful long -term. That is

00:51:06.730 --> 00:51:09.630
things like hitting certain weight loss. kind

00:51:09.630 --> 00:51:11.809
of goals, being able to maintain after a certain

00:51:11.809 --> 00:51:14.150
period of time. Like, and this is, again, not

00:51:14.150 --> 00:51:17.010
everyone is typical. You know, if you can maintain

00:51:17.010 --> 00:51:19.610
that weight loss after three years, like the

00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:22.010
three, four year mark, then typically they say

00:51:22.010 --> 00:51:26.059
most people are a bit successful. However, it

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:27.760
doesn't matter. There's people who maintain that

00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.400
weight loss for 10 years and all of a sudden

00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.500
something happened and away they go and they're

00:51:31.500 --> 00:51:33.900
gaining back. And their life changes. There's

00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:36.559
some event that happens or they just say. Exactly.

00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.079
It does not matter how successful you are in

00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.539
that first year. Yes, anybody can regain the

00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:44.659
weight. It doesn't matter what surgery you have

00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:48.579
either. Bypass versus sleeve, they both can regain.

00:51:48.900 --> 00:51:51.400
One surgery is not better than the other in that

00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.309
term. So yes, you can regain. Yes, you can regain

00:51:55.309 --> 00:51:59.849
and then some. So just keep that in mind. I'll

00:51:59.849 --> 00:52:02.489
say here's another quickfire myth. If I regain,

00:52:02.690 --> 00:52:06.809
it's because surgery failed. No, no, no. Sorry.

00:52:06.909 --> 00:52:09.550
Because I hate to say it, but it's because you've

00:52:09.550 --> 00:52:12.650
you failed in some way or another. Right. And

00:52:12.650 --> 00:52:14.429
like I said, sometimes it's something in somebody's

00:52:14.429 --> 00:52:16.030
life that happens and maybe they couldn't control

00:52:16.030 --> 00:52:19.489
what happened in their life. But. the surgery

00:52:19.489 --> 00:52:21.849
did not fail you. Something, either you failed,

00:52:21.909 --> 00:52:25.349
something in your life failed, one of your habits

00:52:25.349 --> 00:52:28.750
failed, something outside of the surgery is what

00:52:28.750 --> 00:52:30.690
failed. The surgery did its job. The surgery

00:52:30.690 --> 00:52:33.210
is 45 minutes. Once that 45 minutes is over,

00:52:33.289 --> 00:52:35.530
that's done its job. Surgery did its job. The

00:52:35.530 --> 00:52:40.690
rest, after you wheel out of that recovery room,

00:52:40.829 --> 00:52:44.460
the rest is on you. And there will be people

00:52:44.460 --> 00:52:46.880
who, again, didn't lose a lot of weight in the

00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.659
beginning. My surgery didn't work. And they'll

00:52:48.659 --> 00:52:50.440
be all over Reddit saying this surgery is a waste

00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.880
of time. It didn't work. I only lost 45 pounds.

00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.119
I don't know your life and I don't know what

00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:57.739
you went through. And it's very easy on Reddit

00:52:57.739 --> 00:52:59.460
to say that you followed the rules and you did

00:52:59.460 --> 00:53:00.980
everything. And here's what my life is like.

00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.880
However, you probably didn't. There's more to

00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:06.260
the story that you just don't want to admit.

00:53:06.659 --> 00:53:08.559
And it's probably that you're not exercising

00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.880
enough or that you are only eating 600 calories.

00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:15.099
Is it all carbs? Is it protein? Is it all potatoes?

00:53:15.500 --> 00:53:17.039
There was definitely a month where I just ate

00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.239
mashed potatoes for a month because that's all

00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.460
I wanted. And I hate, you know, there are like

00:53:22.460 --> 00:53:24.659
Steph said, circumstances like you can get sick,

00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.159
you can get ill, someone can die. You can be

00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.179
physically unable to exercise and like, yeah,

00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.840
I'm sorry. I hate to say it, but that's not exercising.

00:53:31.900 --> 00:53:34.579
The weight's going to start coming on. Even if

00:53:34.579 --> 00:53:36.539
you're like following your eating plan to a T,

00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.059
like when you stop moving, your body's going

00:53:39.059 --> 00:53:42.349
to start gaining weight. Just stay on top of

00:53:42.349 --> 00:53:44.329
it. Keep an eye on it and reach out for help.

00:53:44.449 --> 00:53:47.289
And that's what we're saying is like how you

00:53:47.289 --> 00:53:49.530
fail is not that you're a failure. It's that

00:53:49.530 --> 00:53:51.710
maybe something big did happen in your life and

00:53:51.710 --> 00:53:54.369
you decided to not ask for help and you didn't

00:53:54.369 --> 00:53:56.550
go to your doctor and say, I'm falling off the

00:53:56.550 --> 00:53:58.949
wagon with my surgery because of X, Y, Z. Like

00:53:58.949 --> 00:54:01.369
you don't want to wake up and go, I'm now 400

00:54:01.369 --> 00:54:03.469
pounds. I should have talked to them when I gained

00:54:03.469 --> 00:54:08.329
20 or 30. So don't let the surgery fail. Yeah.

00:54:10.409 --> 00:54:13.230
Yeah, so that one's kind of a big one that comes

00:54:13.230 --> 00:54:17.489
up a lot. Having surgery is going to fix all

00:54:17.489 --> 00:54:20.670
my problems with food. I wish. Yeah, I fucking

00:54:20.670 --> 00:54:24.230
wish. If the surgery was on your brain, maybe.

00:54:24.570 --> 00:54:27.550
Yeah, I had a lobotomy. I forgot what food was

00:54:27.550 --> 00:54:31.230
like. The thoughts? It won't. No, they cut out,

00:54:31.269 --> 00:54:33.130
well, for sleep, they cut out part of your stomach.

00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.239
All of the thoughts are still there. All of the

00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.179
messaging in your brain is still there. All of

00:54:38.179 --> 00:54:40.139
your old habits are still there. Your old thought

00:54:40.139 --> 00:54:43.039
processes are still there. That has nothing to

00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.019
do with that. And that's why, like for our program,

00:54:46.219 --> 00:54:50.750
we have such a... extensive program because so

00:54:50.750 --> 00:54:54.070
much of it is around habits and putting habits

00:54:54.070 --> 00:54:56.929
in place before surgery and making those mindset

00:54:56.929 --> 00:54:59.010
shifts and thinking about food differently and

00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:01.829
tracking your food. Like there's so many outside

00:55:01.829 --> 00:55:03.610
factors. And just like we just talked about,

00:55:03.630 --> 00:55:07.449
the surgery is 45 minutes. Correct. It's everything

00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:11.289
else that you have to work on. Correct. And you

00:55:11.289 --> 00:55:13.449
have to fix that relationship with food. That

00:55:13.449 --> 00:55:15.489
is, again, that's on you. It's on you. It's not

00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:18.150
on the surgeon. Nope. So no, it won't magically

00:55:18.150 --> 00:55:20.329
fix your mental health. It won't magically fix

00:55:20.329 --> 00:55:22.570
your relationship with food. It won't magically

00:55:22.570 --> 00:55:25.550
fix a lot of things. That's why you need a good

00:55:25.550 --> 00:55:27.349
therapist. That's why you need to follow and

00:55:27.349 --> 00:55:29.570
really work with a clinic is my recommendation.

00:55:29.849 --> 00:55:32.030
Pay for it if you want to pay for it. But the

00:55:32.030 --> 00:55:34.480
benefit of a clinic is. If you don't make these

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.139
changes, you'll always have hunger noise. You'll

00:55:37.139 --> 00:55:39.519
always crave. You'll always binge. It's very

00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.579
easy to go back. I am proof of that. It's very

00:55:42.579 --> 00:55:44.840
easy for me wanting to go back to old habits.

00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.579
And I'm working the program to be like, no, we

00:55:47.579 --> 00:55:49.340
don't need to do that. We don't need to order

00:55:49.340 --> 00:55:52.260
out. We don't need to have those things. So no,

00:55:52.340 --> 00:55:54.780
it doesn't magically fix things at all. You still

00:55:54.780 --> 00:55:57.280
have to put the work in. The big takeaway from

00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:59.559
this myth episode, it doesn't magically fix shit,

00:55:59.739 --> 00:56:02.480
okay? So don't think it's going to fix your whole

00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.820
life. No. Here's another quick fire one because

00:56:05.820 --> 00:56:08.280
I know we're at the end. Hair loss. I am never

00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.260
going to get my hair back. That's a lie. It comes

00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:15.699
back. In different stages for different people,

00:56:15.780 --> 00:56:17.260
different lengths of time for different people.

00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:20.039
My hair started falling out earlier than what

00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.639
a lot of social media and a lot of people said

00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.920
it would. I wasn't even, oh my gosh, I was before

00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.099
the three month period. Yeah, it does happen.

00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:30.840
That does happen. Most people were like, you

00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:32.719
know, three to four months. I was two months

00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:34.679
in and the clumps were falling out already. And

00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:37.019
I remember panicking and thinking I'm going to

00:56:37.019 --> 00:56:39.659
be bald. And now I still, I've talked about it

00:56:39.659 --> 00:56:41.599
on social media and you'll see it. I still have,

00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.199
especially at the front. I've lost a lot of hair.

00:56:44.340 --> 00:56:47.559
There it is right here. So I always have these

00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:49.920
two little pieces that I'm like, get back. I

00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.960
have baby hairs coming in from my regrowth. But

00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.599
that's just it. You'll see I have flyaways. I

00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.340
have regrowth. I have flyaways. I still have

00:56:58.340 --> 00:57:00.400
my hair. Yeah, it's a little bit thin. Still

00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.119
there. It's temporary. It's very temporary. I

00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.400
have noticed already as I've hit six months,

00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.260
it's slowing down. It's still there. It's still

00:57:10.260 --> 00:57:12.369
there, but it's slowing down. And you will still

00:57:12.369 --> 00:57:14.969
lose your hair for the full first year, usually

00:57:14.969 --> 00:57:17.570
starting at three months till 12. It is normal.

00:57:18.110 --> 00:57:20.650
There is nothing you can do to stop this. So

00:57:20.650 --> 00:57:23.510
don't buy a ton of stuff. Start pumping your

00:57:23.510 --> 00:57:27.510
body full of biotin and fucking, what is it,

00:57:27.550 --> 00:57:30.150
collagen. Smearing your head with rosemary oil.

00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.699
cannot prevent this from happening it's gonna

00:57:32.699 --> 00:57:34.659
happen based on a low like the surgery you had

00:57:34.659 --> 00:57:37.059
and the low calorie diet you're on the absolute

00:57:37.059 --> 00:57:39.119
best thing you can do is take your goddamn vitamins

00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.800
okay just take your vitamins let that start building

00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.420
up in your system and just trust it will eventually

00:57:44.420 --> 00:57:47.739
slow down mine did stop yes i'm having a little

00:57:47.739 --> 00:57:49.579
bit of it now but that's because i was really

00:57:49.579 --> 00:57:51.260
bad and stopped taking my vitamins because i'm

00:57:51.260 --> 00:57:54.989
an idiot um but It is going to happen. You can't

00:57:54.989 --> 00:57:57.090
prevent it. Don't spend a ton of money on stuff

00:57:57.090 --> 00:57:59.269
that people tell you really worked and stopped.

00:57:59.429 --> 00:58:02.530
It doesn't. It's a waste of your money. Take

00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:05.170
your vitamins. It's like, what does that mean?

00:58:05.349 --> 00:58:06.730
Like, oh my God, people will just do anything

00:58:06.730 --> 00:58:08.789
but like work out. People will do anything but

00:58:08.789 --> 00:58:10.389
take their frigging vitamins. They're looking

00:58:10.389 --> 00:58:12.449
for like a quick, easy solution. The quick and

00:58:12.449 --> 00:58:14.230
easy solution is take your goddamn vitamins,

00:58:14.369 --> 00:58:17.130
eat your protein, and just know that it will

00:58:17.130 --> 00:58:20.000
stop. It will stop. I saw an influencer who I

00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:21.719
guess was one of the lucky ones who didn't really

00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:26.219
have hair loss. And she was like, I'm positive

00:58:26.219 --> 00:58:29.000
that I didn't have any hair loss because I hit

00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:30.980
my protein goals every day. And if you hit your

00:58:30.980 --> 00:58:32.679
protein goals every day, you're not going to

00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.539
have hair loss too. And I instantly started commenting

00:58:35.539 --> 00:58:40.139
and I was like, no, crap. I was like, I overachieve

00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:43.639
on my protein every day. And I have been having

00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:46.039
hair loss for three months. So I hate to break

00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:49.550
it to you, but no. And I had so many people reply

00:58:49.550 --> 00:58:52.389
and be like, yes, me too, me too. Also, I would

00:58:52.389 --> 00:58:54.769
call bullshit that she's lying. So I would just

00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:56.030
call it bullshit. I'm like, you haven't had any

00:58:56.030 --> 00:58:58.030
hair loss, whatever. You just have to suck it

00:58:58.030 --> 00:59:00.190
up and deal with it. Deal with it. It sucks being

00:59:00.190 --> 00:59:01.889
in the shower and going like this and having

00:59:01.889 --> 00:59:04.570
clumps. It sucks brushing your hair. Watch, I'll

00:59:04.570 --> 00:59:06.550
probably. Oh, no. It has slowed down because

00:59:06.550 --> 00:59:09.750
I'm back on my vitamins. Oh, yay. But you just

00:59:09.750 --> 00:59:11.710
got to suck it up. And your hair will be different.

00:59:11.849 --> 00:59:14.519
It'll go back. it fell out and I used to tell

00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:15.960
my hairdresser I was bald and he's like you're

00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.599
not bald it's actually fine and I was like it's

00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.019
not fine my hair and now it's different like

00:59:20.019 --> 00:59:23.039
it's a little bit more fried is the way to say

00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:24.820
it like the new hair is coming in but it's more

00:59:24.820 --> 00:59:27.219
it's different it's a different type of hair

00:59:27.219 --> 00:59:30.119
than I've had before less oily more more dry

00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.980
so I do use serums and things now but like you

00:59:32.980 --> 00:59:35.219
can see like it has come back it's very full

00:59:35.869 --> 00:59:38.070
And trust me, guys, I thought I was balding and

00:59:38.070 --> 00:59:39.510
I would tell people all the time I was going

00:59:39.510 --> 00:59:41.070
bald. They were like, you're actually not going

00:59:41.070 --> 00:59:43.489
bald. And I'm like, I'm going bald. It comes

00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:45.949
back and your nails start growing again. There'll

00:59:45.949 --> 00:59:48.250
be a day that you go, holy shit, my nails are

00:59:48.250 --> 00:59:49.750
growing quick. And it's like, yes, draw on your

00:59:49.750 --> 00:59:51.869
vitamins. Right, things are kicking in again.

00:59:52.050 --> 00:59:54.849
Take your vitamins. Okay, let's do super quick

00:59:54.849 --> 00:59:57.650
rapid fire, like yes or no answers. You have

00:59:57.650 --> 00:59:59.789
to take vitamins for the rest of your life. Yes.

00:59:59.989 --> 01:00:04.550
Yes, no exceptions. You can never use a straw.

01:00:05.419 --> 01:00:08.159
False. False. Used it like day one out of the

01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.099
fucking hospital. You were quick. I was scared.

01:00:10.139 --> 01:00:12.579
I waited. I waited a bit, but I use straws now.

01:00:12.980 --> 01:00:16.119
I was mad at that person. It's fine. They said

01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:17.880
I shouldn't do it, and now I use it. And I'm

01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:19.780
over here like, just have a fucking straw. And

01:00:19.780 --> 01:00:21.420
she's like, I can't. I was like, I'm using one

01:00:21.420 --> 01:00:25.960
right now. Yes, use a straw. You can never have

01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.500
alcohol again. False. Yep, you can. You can.

01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.539
We'll get into that in a whole episode, but false.

01:00:31.659 --> 01:00:33.320
Caveat. There's like an asterisk there. There's

01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:35.889
a huge asterisk on that. Don't go and start binge

01:00:35.889 --> 01:00:39.929
drinking. But you could if you wanted. I know

01:00:39.929 --> 01:00:41.250
we said this earlier, but I'm just going to go

01:00:41.250 --> 01:00:42.730
through the rapid fires. You can never eat fruit

01:00:42.730 --> 01:00:47.789
again. False. False. You can never have carbonated

01:00:47.789 --> 01:00:49.590
beverages again. False. I had them yesterday.

01:00:49.869 --> 01:00:53.170
False. I drink sugar -free ginger ale. I drink

01:00:53.170 --> 01:00:57.150
bubbly water all the time. Yeah. False. You must

01:00:57.150 --> 01:01:02.449
move every day. Yes. True. No exceptions. Rare

01:01:02.449 --> 01:01:04.429
exception. You want to take a Sunday off, take

01:01:04.429 --> 01:01:08.489
a fucking Sunday off, but okay. 90 % of the time

01:01:08.489 --> 01:01:11.610
you have to move your body. You must have strength

01:01:11.610 --> 01:01:13.590
training as part of your exercise routine. True.

01:01:13.610 --> 01:01:16.659
True. True. I'm paying the motherfucking price

01:01:16.659 --> 01:01:18.840
right now for having not done that. I'm like

01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.579
staring at her. True. Yes, thank you. I know.

01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:23.719
Okay, I need to get into this. Fire dumbbells.

01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.800
Fuck. I know. Okay. Yes, you must have strength

01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:28.579
training as part of your routine. Every day.

01:01:28.619 --> 01:01:29.940
It does not need to be every day, but it needs

01:01:29.940 --> 01:01:32.019
to be a minimum of three days a week. Yep. We'll

01:01:32.019 --> 01:01:36.559
stop. People will judge you for having this surgery.

01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.460
True. True. From the get -go. Those people can

01:01:40.460 --> 01:01:46.059
go fuck themselves. True. True. I regret having

01:01:46.059 --> 01:01:48.880
surgery. False. False. Should have done it sooner.

01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:53.619
Should have done it way, way, way, way, way sooner.

01:01:54.099 --> 01:01:57.019
Way, way, way, way, way, way sooner. You're going

01:01:57.019 --> 01:01:59.840
to look terrible with loose skin. No. False.

01:01:59.980 --> 01:02:03.219
You may be insecure. I'm already insecure. It's

01:02:03.219 --> 01:02:05.000
coming. It started. Let's be honest. But you

01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.800
don't look terrible. Right? I have it. I have

01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.659
it. It's hard to see, but like. If you don't

01:02:09.659 --> 01:02:11.880
like it, cover it up. Yep. You don't have to

01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.219
show it off. Nope. But it's, you know what? And

01:02:14.219 --> 01:02:16.400
I, well, this isn't rapid fire, but real quick,

01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.099
we've talked and we'll talk about more about

01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:21.099
like skin removal surgery. But like the one thing

01:02:21.099 --> 01:02:23.340
I've said is like, it's part of your journey.

01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.420
So yes, you may be uncomfortable with it. Yes,

01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.780
you may not like it, but it's part of your journey.

01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:30.099
It's part of what you've been through, what you've

01:02:30.099 --> 01:02:32.719
conquered, what you've done. Wear it with pride.

01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.280
Yeah. If you're not comfortable with it, cover

01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.480
it up. But no, you're not going to look horrible.

01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.280
It's your choice. Yeah. You can never have carbs

01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.280
again. False. False. We know that's false. You'll

01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:49.940
have massive scary complications. Probably false.

01:02:50.179 --> 01:02:53.079
Probably not. Probably false. Probably not. It's

01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:57.460
very rare. It's very rare. Yeah. You can stretch

01:02:57.460 --> 01:03:02.460
your pouch and ruin surgery. Out of false. Yeah.

01:03:02.619 --> 01:03:04.440
Stretching your pouch isn't really a thing. You

01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.719
can get rid of your habits. You can eat like

01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.260
crap. You cannot exercise. You can eat past your

01:03:10.260 --> 01:03:12.940
cues. You can eat a lot of junk, but stretching

01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:15.500
your pouch isn't really a thing. It's not really

01:03:15.500 --> 01:03:17.579
a thing. That's what I think it is. Let's do

01:03:17.579 --> 01:03:19.940
a pouch reset. That's not a thing. It's not a

01:03:19.940 --> 01:03:23.599
thing. It's not a thing. Bariatric patients are

01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.260
lazy. False. Were some of the hardest working

01:03:26.260 --> 01:03:28.619
motherfuckers I've ever met in my entire life.

01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:33.360
Yeah. Entire life. So that's false. Surgery.

01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:35.519
We'll end on this one. Surgery is the easy way

01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:41.019
out. False. Super false. Double. Yeah. This is

01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:42.440
one of the hardest things I've ever done in my

01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:44.320
life because this is going to be something I

01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.059
have to do for life. I haven't busted my ass

01:03:47.059 --> 01:03:51.099
this hard ever. So we hope that we've broken

01:03:51.099 --> 01:03:54.119
down some of the myths and the falseness and

01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:56.360
the fears that are out there about bariatric

01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.159
surgery. Let us know what fears you have and

01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:00.880
maybe we can help answer them or give you some

01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.579
more clarity. But ultimately, a lot of what you're

01:04:03.579 --> 01:04:07.110
going to see. is just fear -mongering and should

01:04:07.110 --> 01:04:09.389
not prevent you from having this surgery. People

01:04:09.389 --> 01:04:12.329
who fail. A lot of it's people who failed and

01:04:12.329 --> 01:04:15.170
they want reassurance or they're trying to validate

01:04:15.170 --> 01:04:18.090
why they failed. Misery loves company for a reason.

01:04:18.289 --> 01:04:21.269
If it was that bad, why would so many people

01:04:21.269 --> 01:04:23.369
get it then? So many people have it. Right? Be

01:04:23.369 --> 01:04:25.969
realistic. And the other thing is like a lot

01:04:25.969 --> 01:04:28.269
of people that you find on the internet haven't

01:04:28.269 --> 01:04:31.570
had it. No. So they're also looking for justification

01:04:31.570 --> 01:04:34.400
for backing out. and not doing it. And I'll tell

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.099
you right now, the fat acceptance community has

01:04:36.099 --> 01:04:38.960
infiltrated a ton of those groups and like actively

01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.360
celebrate when you back out of weight loss surgery,

01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.099
because like you're going to do it on your own.

01:04:43.739 --> 01:04:46.699
You won't. I'm sorry. I hate to say it. You won't.

01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.460
There's nothing wrong with admitting. Nothing

01:04:49.460 --> 01:04:51.920
wrong with this. I need help. I can't do this

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.780
by myself. I need an extra tool. I need help.

01:04:54.860 --> 01:04:57.239
There is nothing wrong with that. And if that's

01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:01.110
your biggest fear in this, that. You know what?

01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:07.510
It is far more empowering and such a big step

01:05:07.510 --> 01:05:10.269
forward to say you need help. I think that is

01:05:10.269 --> 01:05:12.889
even bigger than saying, I can do this on my

01:05:12.889 --> 01:05:16.389
own. It takes a lot more willpower and vulnerability

01:05:16.389 --> 01:05:20.250
to say, I need help. I can't do this. Let's get

01:05:20.250 --> 01:05:23.860
it done. I agree. Yeah. So that's our myths episode.

01:05:23.980 --> 01:05:28.500
Next week, we are so fucking excited, guys. It

01:05:28.500 --> 01:05:31.579
is the big one. It's body dysmorphia with bypass

01:05:31.579 --> 01:05:35.300
casts. So submit your questions. questions what

01:05:35.300 --> 01:05:36.900
do you want to ask her what do you want to know

01:05:36.900 --> 01:05:39.760
she had bypass we had sleeve um please follow

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.780
her on tiktok tiktok she's bypass cast on tiktok

01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:45.420
she has a crazy big following there but she posts

01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:47.420
some of the most amazing videos and gives great

01:05:47.420 --> 01:05:50.300
advice and like we're just fangirling over here

01:05:50.300 --> 01:05:53.579
but next week our episode on body dysmorphia

01:05:53.579 --> 01:05:56.079
with bypass cast so get all your questions in

01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:58.199
submit them via instagram or send them to us

01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.659
on tiktok like we want to know what you want

01:06:00.659 --> 01:06:02.800
to ask her and what you want to hear this is

01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:05.440
your chance to talk about bypass surgery, but

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.599
also body dysmorphia and how we feel about our

01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.920
bodies. I'm so excited. I can't wait. She's going

01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.079
to be great. She's open to, to lots of topics

01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:16.059
and discussions too. So like Hannah said, if

01:06:16.059 --> 01:06:17.880
there's anything you want to ask her, she's a

01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.500
pretty open book. So she has said, whatever you

01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:22.619
want to talk about, let me know. So she's also

01:06:22.619 --> 01:06:25.920
in Canada, which is great, but stay tuned. It's

01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:29.420
going to be so good. I can't wait. So we'll see

01:06:29.420 --> 01:06:31.659
you next week for that big episode. Like always,

01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.659
Steph, thanks for joining me on this episode.

01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:36.139
Thanks, Anna. See you guys later. Bye everybody.

01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:36.719
Bye.