Episode 12: Beyond the Scale: Celebrating Non-Scale Victories 🎉✨

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Hey, Steph. Hello. How are you? Good. I'm good.

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Thanks for joining me again for another episode

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of Bariatric Banter Podcast. I'm so excited for

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today. I can't wait. It is episode 12, which

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is, again, we say this every time. I think we'll

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continue to say it. It's crazy. Amazing. It's

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good. Yeah. I know. I'm excited. Like, we just

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keep getting more and more people listening and

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more and more of you interacting and sending

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us things. And, like, it just makes our day.

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We love hearing that you're having surgery, that

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you're thinking about it, that we helped in some

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way. I didn't even tell you. I totally forgot

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to tell you. What? I had, after our last episode.

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Yeah. I was talking to a friend about it. Yep.

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And then I randomly, it was like this woman knew

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I was talking about it at that moment. She messaged

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me and it's a woman that I used to work with.

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Okay. That I still stay in touch with on social

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media. Yeah. And haven't really had like a close

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conversation with her in a long time though.

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But we still chat every so often. Super lovely

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lady. Turns out she's having surgery too. And

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she messaged me, she messaged me on like, I think

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it was like a Monday or something that she was

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having her. appointment on the Wednesday to sign

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all her paperwork that she was having it too.

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And so there's been, so she has reached out that

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she's having it. I've had another person reach

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out that I know through cultural stuff that she's

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now having the surgery. She was on the fence.

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I chatted with her. She listened to her podcast.

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She's now gone ahead and advocated for herself.

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She's registered for surgery. We have my other

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friend who we have talked about on here before

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who just had bypass recently. We've got her.

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And then I had another woman who I haven't spoken

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to in years reach out again to tell me that she's

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been on the fence about this for years. She signed

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up for the program years ago, got scared, canceled.

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And now after like... listening to the podcast

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watching my story on instagram following along

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now she's back into the thought process if she

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thinks she's gonna do it this is so incredible

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awesome like okay that's so come out of the woodwork

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and the messages that we're getting um and the

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engagement from people that um like i said on

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last week's episode you never know who's watching

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in the wings and who's just who's just in behind

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quietly paying attention. You never know who's

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listening to your story. You never know who's

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watching. You never know who you're impacting.

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It's been super cool to have these people reach

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out that I haven't spoken to in ages. I love

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this. Talk about it. It's been so cool. It's

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been so cool. It's really humbling that people

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listen to us for advice and for help. And like

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we always say, we're not medical experts. We

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just want to share what we're going through and

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what annoys us and our frustrations and our joys.

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It's just so cool to have people reach out and

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say, I'm doing it. I'm finally doing it. And

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I get it because I just didn't find this before

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I went through surgery. Now, that doesn't mean

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they don't exist. There are wonderful influencers

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out there. but I just really struggled with like

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the Canadian aspect of things. And I love, love

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hearing everybody's journey. I've had people

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reach out about the recipe. I'm going to share

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the recipe on Instagram, the soup one. So yeah,

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I just, we love interacting with you in any way.

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So ask us questions. Clearly we like to talk.

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So don't, don't be afraid to message with any,

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any questions, anything you want to talk about.

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Yeah. And you can disagree with us. If you think

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like, It's total bullshit. Hannah said that you

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shouldn't travel for food. Like I didn't say

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that, but you know what I mean? Like if you disagree

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with us, that's totally cool. We want to have

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a discourse about it. Yeah. Tell us. Tell us

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where we're right. Tell us where we're wrong.

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Give us better suggestions. I think our goal

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in the next couple of weeks is we're going to

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try to book somebody to come on the podcast.

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So we want to bring you advice that isn't just

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our advice, but we have questions that we don't

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have answers to. So we would love to. I think

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PCOS will be the first guest we bring on because

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I have questions being two years post -op. Is

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my PCOS going to? come back the way it was before?

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Is it going to hinder my weight loss? Is it going

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to cause weight gain? I have lots of questions

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that I just don't have answers for about that

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disease specifically and bariatric surgery. So

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yeah, we're looking for dietitians as well. We'd

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love to pick their brain on like some unique

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ways that we can fit more protein into our day.

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We have a lot of big plans. Yeah. People who

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have been through this. that have gone to other

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clinics, that have done different programs, get

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their take on it, that are maybe even further

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out than we are or in the middle of where we

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are. There's lots of different opinions that

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we want to hear and questions we want to ask.

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So stay tuned. As much as we appreciate and love

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you guys listening to us, we want to hear from

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other people too. We do. And we want other people's

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opinion. And yeah, we're going to do more on

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our social as well. So if you're not following

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us on TikTok or Instagram, please do. We share

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lots of behind the scenes about our life. We

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share exercise. We share recipes. We share just

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what day to day life looks like. But Steph and

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I have been kind of noodling on some cool shit

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that we might start doing. Like, you know, we've

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we've always had this thing about the recipes

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that we keep finding online and how a lot of

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them are just shit. So we've debated like maybe

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we should. Maybe we should make some of these

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super great, amazing recipes and like taste test

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them and see if they actually taste good. Maybe

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we should remake some of them and make them bariatric

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friendly. Yeah, we've had a lot of cool ideas.

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Maybe we will do things. Yeah, go on adventures

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and see if they're bariatric friendly. Try things

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that we've never been able to try before in new

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bodies and see if we like it or we hate it. But

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yeah, and then Canadian Halls. Can we replace

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our... amazing American products with Canadian

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ones. So yeah, follow us on our social because

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we're going to start branching out and posting

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a lot of really cool stuff. And I think the rest

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of P1 will be the most fun. I agree. Because

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there's a lot that sound great until you really

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start looking at them. So there's a lot that

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I think we can use. Well, first of all, like

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you said, try them out, see if they taste good

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or not. Yes. Put in the actual information on

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them and see if they're truthful or not. Yes.

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And then try to recreate it with swap outs. So

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that it's got higher protein. Yeah. Yeah. It's

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what I've done it for a few recipes. I just.

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usually only share it with friends so maybe we'll

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put it out publicly and say like hey look uh

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the starbucks one was probably the best one starbucks

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has this new thing out which like oh okay it's

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so good it's divine but it's this new thing like

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a chicken pocket like a jalapeno chicken pocket

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where basically it's just like cream cheese jalapeno

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chicken in a wrap it's 200 calories and 10 grams

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of protein so like It's not the highest protein

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snack, but if you're in a pinch, it's 200 calories.

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It's not going to ruin your whole day. But I

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was like, God damn it. I really want this. Like

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there must be a way I can make this. When you

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sent the picture of it, it was surprisingly small.

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It's tiny. It's very tiny for 200 calories. So

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I said to Steph. Yeah. I said, there has to be

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a way I can get way more protein and do this

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better. And so I literally spent a weekend trying

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to recreate those goddamn chicken pocket. And

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I think, what did I get it to? Like 160 calories

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and 18 grams of protein? I would say almost 20,

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like significantly. almost 20 grams of protein

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and like my swap was like did I still use cream

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cheese yeah but I got whipped cream cheese and

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I used a scoop of whipped cream cheese not like

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the whole thing was cream cheese fresh jalapenos

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good roasted chicken but then cottage cheese

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that tried and true everybody's favorite like

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and then I blended some of the jalapenos into

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the like cream cheese cottage cheese sauce like

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played with spices and then I used low carb carb

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smart tortillas and I was like holy shit not

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only did I get it under 200 but like Your fiber

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was way better. Oh, the fiber was like through

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the roof, but the protein was. And so then it's

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like, well, how do they taste? They actually

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taste pretty, pretty freaking good. Yeah. When

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you do it at home, you can add those extra spices.

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You can tweak it to your liking, but there's

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so many swap outs that you can do. So many. We

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can use those as inspiration and then do it ourselves.

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I think that would be a fun, a fun little series

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to do. I think it would be really fun. So send

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us those recipes that you would love to be bariatric

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or the ones that you're like, this person keeps

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posting this recipe and I don't know if it's

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going to taste any good. Okay, we'll be the ones

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to try it because there are so many recipes I've

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tried where I was like, all right. Well, this

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is shit. And my biggest one that I complain about

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every time I see one that says this and stuff

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will know, the next time somebody posts a cheesecake

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protein recipe and there's no cream cheese in

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that recipe, it's not cheesecake. No. It's a

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cottage cheese dessert. It's a cottage cheese

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dessert. It's a baked egg dish. You can't tell

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me something tastes like cheesecake when there's

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no cheese. No cream cheese. There's no cream

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cheese. Sorry. It's not cheesecake. Between the

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texture. And the flavor, it's not. Don't lie

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to me. Don't lie to me. No, and I see. Just call

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it a cream or a cottage cheese dessert. Cottage

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cheese, baked egg. Call it whatever you want,

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but stop saying this is a high protein cheesecake

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recipe. Like it might look like a cheesecake,

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but I can tell you good and goddamn well, it

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does not taste like a cheesecake. It's going

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to taste. horrible so we test a lot of recipes

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here to be honest so um yeah the starbucks dupe

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was good i got it down to 180 calories sorry

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not 160 um and 23 grams of protein eight grams

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of fat so i mean again it's got some cream cheese

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and some cottage cheese in it it's got a little

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bit of fat you're only having a little bit yeah

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there's only five grams of net carbs so like

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in the grand scheme of things Great. It's not

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like and again, it's not like you're eating this

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thing literally every day. It's a ooh, I want

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a dupe for that quick and convenient Starbucks

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like chicken pocket. And I love having this because

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when I'm running to like agility with the dog,

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or I'm on a road trip, like going to Windsor,

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I love it. It is the perfect little meal size

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makes you feel like you're having something decadent

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while you're on the road. So do we? Yeah. Yeah,

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it's the same with buffalo chicken dip. Like

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I used to, oh, I used to love me some buffalo

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chicken dip, but there's so much like cream cheese

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and sour cream and ranch and like so much cheese.

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And it was phenomenal. But yeah, like so decadent,

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so gooey and delicious. So good. So when we hit

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the soft food phase and I saw everybody on TikTok

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making soft food phase bariatric buffalo dip,

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I... To say I lived on that during the soft food

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phase. But you find your tweaks, right? Like

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you use cottage cheese. You use plain Greek yogurt.

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You do extra spices. You use the low -fat cheese.

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Did it taste exactly the same? No. But was it

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delicious and did it hit the spot and fulfill

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that craving? Totally. Absolutely. And super

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high protein. I lived on that. So there are swap

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-outs for almost anything. And they don't taste

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terrible. If it tasted like crap, I wouldn't

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have eaten it. Let's be honest. One of the big

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things I make now are these protein muffins.

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And it's because there was a recipe floating

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around. And the recipe was, oh, you take Kodiak

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pancake mix and you mix it with Greek yogurt

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and a Premier protein shake or a Fairlife shake.

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And, oh, boom, you now have muffins that are

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under 200 calories with like 10 grams of protein.

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And I was like. I can I can do that better. And

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like I was like, I can do this better. So I tried

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the recipe as is. And I was like, these are incredible.

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Like these this muffin is under 200 calories.

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Most muffins are like 400. And it tastes good.

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It's a little denser than a normal muffin, but

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it's like a cake. I was like, this is like a

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treat. So then I set out to build the best protein

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muffin I could. And I'm I mean, I love it because

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now it's really Canadian, but I use Flourish

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pancake mix, which is a Canadian pancake mix,

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but it has 23 grams of protein versus the. Kodiak,

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which is like Kodiak's really high in sugar and

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low in protein. Like it is marketed as high protein,

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but I find protein than normal pancake mix, but

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it's nothing crazy. It's nothing really special

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to be perfectly honest. Um, I think it's done

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a good job of marketing itself as being great,

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but the truth is there's way better options than

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anything that they sell. So I found this flourish

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pancake mix in Canada and they have a ton of

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different flavors and I made it with Greek yogurt

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and the premier protein shake. It's a stupid.

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recipe, whole bag of pancake mix, whole drink,

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whole premier protein shake, and then like five

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ounces of Greek yogurt. That's it. Mix it, bake

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it. I add a scoop of ghost protein powder. So

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depending on the flavor I'm making, I'll add

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like cinnamon or lucky. I have like a lucky charms

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ghost. So I added that in and I baked it and

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I was like. Well, shit. So my muffins are 167

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calories, which if you know muffins, that's insane

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for a muffin. Less than half. Less than half.

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167 calories, three grams of fat, two grams of

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sugar, 18 grams of protein. Amazing. In a muffin.

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In a muffin. And it's not even like a little

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muffin. Like these are like because it's a pancake

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mix. They rise, like they become huge. So this

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has become kind of like when I make my coffee

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in the morning and I put my premier protein shake

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in, like sometimes all I feel like is a muffin.

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But now my breakfast is 25 grams of protein and

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it's under 200 calories, which is crazy. And

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there are just days where you're going to be

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like, man, I just want a baked good. Yeah. I

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just want like a treat. I've turned it into a

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dessert. Yeah, I've toasted it and I've put some

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Greek yogurt on it and some berries and I've

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had it almost like you would like a biscuit or

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something because you're still going to have

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that craving of, you know what I miss? Like a

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nice warm dessert. Yeah, or put some PB2 powder

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on it. Yeah, I've mixed PB2 into the batter.

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I don't recommend it because it gets stodgy,

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but okay, here's another recipe we tested. PB2,

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which like we cannot stress enough how great.

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powdered peanut butter is pb2 specifically some

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of the other brands have a weird taste to them

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but pb2 um don't make it with water make it with

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a premier protein shake it tastes like caramel

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so like i thought that was going to be a shit

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recipe for sure and i just remember being like

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there's no way this will taste good that one

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the best peanut butter i've ever had i i can't

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explain how much it tastes like peanut butter

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caramel But like now you've got a super high

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protein peanut butter to put on a protein muffin

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and just keep up, right? And now people are looking

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at you like, well, why are you eating muffins

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with peanut butter? Bitch, this is under 200

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calories and like 30 grams of protein. Like I

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love hacking recipes. And if they don't taste

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good, I do not deny when stuff tastes bad. I

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will straight up be like, that is not worth it.

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That tastes horrible. Don't make that recipe.

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Even simple things like I used to love salsa

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and sour cream mixed together. Yes. My God, I

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do the same thing. But if you whip up some cottage

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cheese and mix that in instead. I've said a sour

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cream. There you go. Or even add a little taco

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seasoning to it. Okay. Mix that in there. Greek

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yogurt. what is the name oikos 19 gram plain

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greek yogurt yep i do exactly what you said i

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take i have this like elote seasoning from trader

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joe's that's what i use every night yes and i

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make a flavored like greek yogurt and then i

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put my salsa on top and now i'm having like a

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high protein dip For whatever I'm eating. I put

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it in my little chicken fajitas that I make.

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Or you can dip protein chips in it. You can dip

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veggies in it. You can put it on top of a taco

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salad. There's so many easy swap outs. Yes. So

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many easy swap outs. We should do an episode

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just on swap outs. Yeah, I think we should start

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doing once a week posting like a recipe dupe

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or a recipe hack that we're trying. But also

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send us the ones you want us to try because there's

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probably a million out there floating around.

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Send them our way. Yeah, Simply Protein makes

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tortilla, protein tortilla chips now. I'm two

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years post -op. I eat nachos. People are like,

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what the fuck? I'm like, yeah, there are definitely

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days where I'm like, uh, I'm making nachos. Now

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I've done it a bunch of different ways. I've

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made sweet potato nachos, which are actually

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really delicious. Um, I've done like no chip

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nachos where you just kind of put your meat and

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olives and shit on a train. That one's okay.

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Um, and then there are just times where I go,

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yeah, I'm just going to make nachos. Like I don't,

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I don't eat as much as I did before. I'm not

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concerned about. this becoming an issue because

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I'm eating like less than a cup. And I now make

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my nachos with like tons of chicken on top of

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it. And I put a vegetable and I'm using like

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super low fat cheese and you can still have treats.

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Like, am I eating nachos every day? No. But like

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once a month, there's probably a day where I'm

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tired and I just want something kind of warm

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and good. And so I'll make it. And yeah, it's

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probably closer to like once you add in everything,

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probably closer to 400 calories for the whole

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thing. But a super high protein dip that I'm

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dipping in, it's got lots of chicken on it. Like

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that will fill me up for most of the day because

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there's carbs, there's protein. And again, it's

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moderation. My whole day is not shot because

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my whole day still stays under 1 ,500 calories.

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And you're not doing it every day. No. And it

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still stays under 1 ,500 calories. You have to

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give in to your cravings, but you can still do

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it in a smart way, right? Yes. Because we all

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know when you continually say no to things. That's

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when the binging happens. That's when the bad

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habits come in. That's when the slippery slopes

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happen. So you still have to honor what you want

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and what your body wants. Just be smart about

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it. And it's not something that you're going

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to do. every day. So look for the swap outs,

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make it the healthier versions of it. You're

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having the smaller portions. Don't get so fixated

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on, oh my God, I can't have that. I can't have

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that. I can't do that. Yes, you can. And you

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don't have to be like, oh, you know what I have

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to do? I have to squish broccoli and make nachos

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on top of broccoli. And that's my life now. It's

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like, that actually sounds good. I'm not, that

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was a bad example. I mean, I love broccoli. I

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love broccoli. If you want nachos, you want nachos.

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Then have nachos. You need the crunch. You need

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a little bit of the cheese. Again, Steph nailed

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it. My therapist has always said what we resist

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persists so um you know you can't avoid anxiety

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you can't avoid stressful situations and if you

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try then you never get over that being a stressful

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situation you can never you know if you if you

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have a fear of flying and you just resist flying

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you didn't solve your fear of flying because

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that still persists so it's the same with like

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most of us are binge eaters So do I advocate

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keeping slider foods in the house? Absolutely

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not. But if you're a binge eater, the more that

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you avoid something, the more it becomes food

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noise, the more you obsess over it, the more

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you're going to make bad choices. And so there's

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this great TikTok, I'll try to find it, where

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this woman was like. My food therapist is making

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me keep three chocolate bars in the freezer.

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And this is just ridiculous. And there were some

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comments like, oh, my God, ditch your food therapist.

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And then another dietician came on and said,

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no, when I'm dealing with people who binge eat,

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I specifically make them buy that food and keep

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that food in their house because it needs to

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not be a novelty. It needs to not. And that's

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exactly what happens with me. Oh, do I feel like

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nachos? Yeah. OK, I'll make them. And then that's

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it. I'm not hyper fixated on it. I don't need

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it all the time. Hit that craving. Your body's

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over it. Move on. But if you avoid it. then it

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becomes it's all consuming and then it's going

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to become your hyper fixation that you have to

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have all the time so i don't buy a full bag of

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tortilla chips i usually go to trader not trader

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joe's jesus christ farm boy and get like their

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fresh made ones or i get the little bag of the

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simply protein i find the simply protein has

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way higher calories than just a regular ass tortilla

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chip but i try to get a small bag And then I

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just make myself like that single serving and

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I move on. And because it's a novelty, like when

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was the last time I made nachos? What is it?

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January? I had nachos in January. So like, yeah,

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definitely not doing this every week. It's not

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becoming a problem. I'm still losing weight.

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But now the moment's come. Your body wants it.

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So I'm going to make it. I now trust myself with

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that food. I know that I'm going to load it with

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as much protein as humanly possible and a lot

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of veggies. And I make the right choice when

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it comes to the cheese. And I make my own Greek

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yogurt salsa dip. Like I trust myself to make

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nachos because I know. You've got those habits

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in. I know the bowl that I'm going to put it

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in because, you know, I've measured so much that

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I don't, you know, I know the bowl that's going

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to go in. You're not making the cookie sheet.

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full of nachos. I'm not going to graze on it

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over the course of three hours. Like I know I'm

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going to sit, I'm going to eat it. And when I'm

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done, that bowl goes away and I'm done with that

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meal. But that comes with practice. Would I have

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been having nachos like two months post -op?

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No, no. This comes with practice of like reintroducing

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some things. Now I don't keep like bags of cookies

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and sweet things in the house because slippery

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slope, but I don't deprive myself. So I have

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my muffins, which are great. I actually bought

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You can get cookie sticks at Longo's, which like

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these are dope as hell. They look like my finger

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and you can have three for 90 calories and only

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eight grams of sugar and like two grams of protein

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in them. So I'm like, what the fuck are in these

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cookies? Hey, but every now and then you need

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something that's not. a protein something. I'm

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so tired of seeing influencers go, you know what

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my treat is today? My calcium chew. No. Fuck

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off. Okay. That's not a treat. Or people being

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like, the only thing you need to be eating is

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protein high things. You're a human and there's

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going to be a day where you're like, you know

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what I would love? An Oreo. Right. Like I don't

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want, so I make sure. I just want a candy. I

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want something. So do I buy Oreos? No, because

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I think Oreos are like super slippery slope for

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me. Would I eat the whole bag if I could? Yeah.

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So I found these cookie sticks. Are they good?

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Yeah. Are they like binge -worthy good? No. No.

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But they are a good treat when you're kind of

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feeling it. So I pre -portioned them out into

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bags. I put the bags in the freezer because it

00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:09.059
keeps food just fresher. And every now and then,

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if I'm having my coffee or tea in the afternoon

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and I kind of want a little sweet treat, I have

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a pre -portioned little bag of these 80 -calorie

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cookies. But I always have just something for

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the days when the cravings hit so hard that you're

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like, I'm going to go to the grocery store and

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just buy a cake. Who cares? I've been so good

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for two years. A cake isn't going to matter.

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And it's like, no, no, don't keep slider foods

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in your house. But you need to start trusting

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yourself with some things. Or like Steph said,

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find an alternative. Make a swap. Yeah. What

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were we craving the other day? I can't remember

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what we were talking, but we were both just talking

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about like, oh my God, like I'm so hungry. I

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just, I just. want something. And I went out

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to the grocery store and bought extra lean ground

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beef and some tiny little slider buns. And I

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just made like 16 mini patties, froze them in

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the freezer. And I was like, there, the next

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time I'm sitting here thinking that I'm going

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to go get a Big Mac or I'm going to buy a hamburger,

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I'm going to have a kid's meal. Like I've just

00:24:06.089 --> 00:24:09.029
made an alternative. Like a kid's, I think a

00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:11.130
kid's hamburger is like under 200 calories at

00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:13.170
McDonald's. It's not crazy. I made an alternative

00:24:13.170 --> 00:24:16.740
for 130. So, you know, it's a little slider.

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You know what's in it. You don't have to go out

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and spend the extra money on it. You just got

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to listen to your body, find the alternatives.

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And it's okay, like you said, if you have those

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days where you don't want the protein bar or

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you don't want the protein shake, that's totally

00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:34.579
fine. That's normal. It's totally fine. You don't

00:24:34.579 --> 00:24:38.579
have to live off of that 24 -7 all the time.

00:24:38.619 --> 00:24:39.980
You'll burn out because you'll burn out. Oh,

00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.779
gosh, yeah. You still have to live your life,

00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.640
right? You still have to enjoy things. You're

00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.000
responsible in your decision. And like Anna said,

00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.680
a lot of that comes from practice. It comes from

00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.680
building those habits. It comes from the fact

00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.700
that, number one, you physically can't eat as

00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:57.680
much as you used to. And if you do try to eat

00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.180
the whole bag of Oreos, you're probably going

00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:00.980
to get pretty sick and feel like crap. A hundred

00:25:00.980 --> 00:25:04.180
percent. But it just comes from practice, from

00:25:04.180 --> 00:25:07.000
trusting your body, trusting yourself, knowing

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.319
your limitations, and knowing how to make those

00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.210
better, more responsible choices. yeah know what

00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:16.829
your know what your slider foods are and slider

00:25:16.829 --> 00:25:18.670
foods are the ones that will slide through your

00:25:18.670 --> 00:25:21.190
body so you'll eat the whole bag of goldfish

00:25:21.190 --> 00:25:24.269
you'll eat the whole so like i know i know what

00:25:24.269 --> 00:25:26.970
my slider foods are and i'm not going to keep

00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:28.690
them in the house even if i believe that i need

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:31.130
to trust myself with them those are not the ones

00:25:31.130 --> 00:25:33.150
that i'm going to trust myself with but there

00:25:33.150 --> 00:25:35.210
are definitely other things that feel like a

00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:37.430
treat, feel really great. You just kind of alter

00:25:37.430 --> 00:25:40.009
them. Like I have found a great recipe for chicken

00:25:40.009 --> 00:25:42.369
quesadillas. Yes, I do keep those in my freezer.

00:25:42.809 --> 00:25:44.789
And I think that the nice thing about having

00:25:44.789 --> 00:25:46.950
some of these things on hand is they're still

00:25:46.950 --> 00:25:49.150
in my freezer. Like they're still on hand, meaning

00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:51.329
like I'm not sitting and hyper fixating and eating

00:25:51.329 --> 00:25:53.390
the whole bag of quesadillas. I had a little

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.390
craving that I wanted something cheesy and crunchy.

00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:59.960
And so I. Make things and keep them in the freezer

00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.480
so that when you have that moment, you don't

00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:05.220
wind up at McDonald's or you don't wind up, you

00:26:05.220 --> 00:26:06.759
know, eating something you don't want. You go,

00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.819
oh, yeah, there are sliders in the freezer. I

00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:11.500
guess if I really wanted a slider, there's one

00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:13.460
in the freezer that I could have. Right. And

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:15.680
that will also show you how much you really want

00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.579
it. Like, do you did you really want it? Like

00:26:18.579 --> 00:26:20.440
I always tell my kids, I was like, I'm hungry.

00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:23.420
So I'll tell them, go have an apple. Well, I

00:26:23.420 --> 00:26:25.019
don't want an apple. So, well, then you're not

00:26:25.019 --> 00:26:27.180
that hungry. You're not hungry. So if you're

00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:29.480
fixated on that hamburger and you have the stuff

00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.400
to make the slatter at home, but you don't want

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.720
it, then did you really want it? Were you maybe

00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.980
bored and maybe you need to go do an activity?

00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.279
Or have you maybe had no water today and you're

00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.660
actually really thirsty and you should have some

00:26:44.660 --> 00:26:48.759
hydration? And that's a hard one because in the

00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.880
moment you don't want to hear drink water because

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.940
you're like, I am hungry. But no, for me, it's

00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:57.039
usually boredom. The other day I was just on

00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:58.599
Instagram and I was like, all these people making

00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:00.279
these beef bowls. Fuck it. I'm going to go make

00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.359
it. Cause I didn't, I, and it was a shitty, it

00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.420
was on me. I hadn't eaten all of a sudden it

00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:08.259
was six 30 and it's like, your last meal was

00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:10.920
hours ago and it was like cheese and apples.

00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.640
Like you need something. And so I was literally

00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.000
sitting there like, well, why don't you just

00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.819
order something? And I've removed the apps off

00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:20.559
my phone because again, I know my limitations.

00:27:20.859 --> 00:27:23.059
I was like, I'm not ordering. So I was like,

00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.680
fine. go make the goddamn beef bowls. So I did.

00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:27.519
I went all the way to Longo's, which like, okay,

00:27:27.579 --> 00:27:29.279
it's not far, but I went to Longo's and I got

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:30.920
everything for the beef bowls and I came home

00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:32.720
and a meal prep them and I ate it. And I was

00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.720
like, ah, this is like, this, this was cool.

00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.940
I was bored and just wanted to cook something.

00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:40.160
Um, the beef bowls were funny because Steph and

00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.980
I beat this up and, uh, we'll get to our topic.

00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.920
I promise. Oh my goodness. Um, but people are

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.609
saying. I know. The beef bowls are 400 calories.

00:27:49.769 --> 00:27:52.630
But they're all over social media. But they're

00:27:52.630 --> 00:27:54.730
not. Because as soon as you told me you were

00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:58.009
making the beef bowl, my very first thought was,

00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:00.089
holy crap, that's a lot of calories. That's a

00:28:00.089 --> 00:28:03.490
lot of calories. And I have seen everybody on

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:05.630
social media making them. And every single person

00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:07.829
that makes them says they're between 400 and

00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:10.450
500 calories. And I've looked at them and I thought,

00:28:10.789 --> 00:28:15.200
really? How? Really? But I've never paid that

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.240
much attention to the actual building of the

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.059
bowl. I just kept seeing it. So I was like, okay,

00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:22.259
cool, whatever. So as soon as you said, I'm going

00:28:22.259 --> 00:28:24.240
to make the beef bowl. I was like, dang, she's

00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.960
going to use up a lot of those calories. A lot

00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.240
of them calories, right? Go right ahead, girlfriend.

00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:30.799
So it's not filling enough. I'm just going to

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:32.980
throw it out there. It is not a filling enough

00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:34.940
bowl that you should be wasting 400 calories

00:28:34.940 --> 00:28:37.740
on it. You could easily cut the beef for chicken.

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.500
Fucking cut it for pork if you wanted to and

00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:44.230
cut those calories down. Just because, okay,

00:28:44.329 --> 00:28:47.150
so I'll talk, okay, fuck, so many things. Avocados

00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:48.670
are great, but they're not that filling. Like,

00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:50.130
yes, they're full of good fat and blah, blah,

00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:51.549
blah. But like, just be careful that just because

00:28:51.549 --> 00:28:54.230
something is full of protein won't mean that

00:28:54.230 --> 00:28:57.859
it makes you feel satiated or full at all. So

00:28:57.859 --> 00:28:59.680
just be very cautious of that. Like there are

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.400
sweet potatoes in it, but this needs a little

00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.960
bit more of the carb versus the high fat. Like

00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.440
honestly, I'd cut the avocado from these stupid

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.940
bowls and put in tomatoes and up the sweet potatoes.

00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:11.920
It's so many calories that you don't need. No,

00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:14.200
and I'd switch the beef for turkey so that I

00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.039
could fit more cottage cheese in. Like it does

00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:17.920
not need the avocado that's such wasted calories

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.549
in my mind. I digress. I built the... bowl and

00:29:21.549 --> 00:29:23.750
I put the whole recipe into my fitness pal and

00:29:23.750 --> 00:29:25.529
it was like per serving this is 400 calories

00:29:25.529 --> 00:29:27.970
and I was like there's just no fucking way looking

00:29:27.970 --> 00:29:30.029
at the size of this and what I know is in here

00:29:30.029 --> 00:29:34.049
so I instead did each single bowl individually

00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:37.789
like literally painstakingly measured every single

00:29:37.789 --> 00:29:40.970
individual serving size of the ingredients then

00:29:40.970 --> 00:29:44.089
made the bowls and put them in the and they were

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:47.430
down to 200 calories a bowl so like my fitness

00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:50.960
pal's got some fucky shit and I don't know what's

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.000
going on but we we've seen an influencer who

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.380
has said this before where she's like you need

00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:57.539
to stop doing that and you need to measure your

00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:00.859
serving sizes by grams and like meal prep that

00:30:00.859 --> 00:30:03.900
way you should not be doing like i had x portion

00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:08.279
of a larger portion like no so when i way hard

00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.779
i find in my fitness pal It's also a pain. I've

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:13.440
tried building out those recipes when I made

00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.019
the buffalo chicken dip. Yeah. And it was so

00:30:16.019 --> 00:30:18.259
annoying. It was so difficult. It was such a

00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:22.200
pain. It never worked out properly. So I gave,

00:30:22.299 --> 00:30:25.180
I said to you, I gave up on that. I hate my fitness

00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:27.259
pal. And I, the other day I was like, oh, I really

00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:28.940
should put some go -to recipes in there. And

00:30:28.940 --> 00:30:30.519
then, yeah, we saw that video and I was like,

00:30:30.539 --> 00:30:32.579
this is why people don't track because it's a

00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:34.980
pain in the ass to do it in my fitness pal. But

00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:37.140
like, there's something going on with it. You

00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:39.680
have to be very cautious what it's picking. Most

00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.480
of the calories are completely fucking wrong

00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.380
in MyFitnessPal. But I don't think the beef bowls

00:30:45.380 --> 00:30:47.200
are as high calorie as people think they are.

00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.680
Unless you're not, like I bought specifically

00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.240
extra, extra lean ground beef, 98 % fat free

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.680
ground beef. So like I went out of my way to

00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.099
get stuff, but like the sizing, like three ounces

00:30:59.099 --> 00:31:01.420
of beef per bowl. Unless you're putting in a

00:31:01.420 --> 00:31:03.700
high fat beef, you're loading up on the avocado,

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.680
you're doing full fat cheese, full fat everything.

00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:11.279
There's, no. Double serving, that's 400 calories.

00:31:11.619 --> 00:31:14.900
These recipes lie. The recipes lie. They lie.

00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.900
So the beef bowl's not worth it. Just thrown

00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:19.559
it out there, tried that recipe, not worth it.

00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.099
Moving on to better topics. Sorry, today's topic,

00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.359
which we're getting to 30 minutes into the podcast,

00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:31.119
is non -scale victories. Because we don't celebrate

00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.500
them enough and they're far more important. We

00:31:33.500 --> 00:31:35.579
do our little dance like, non -scale victory,

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:40.180
non -scale victory. They're psychologically so

00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:42.839
much more moving and impactful than a scale ever

00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.400
will be. And you'll find them in every day. And

00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.680
you could even start a bucket list of non -scale

00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.380
victories. But we don't give them enough thought

00:31:52.380 --> 00:31:55.660
or enough credit. No. Not just bariatric world.

00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.779
Anybody in a weight loss journey, a health journey.

00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.079
The non -scale victories are always forgotten.

00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.460
They're not talked about enough. We get so...

00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:08.259
Damn fixated on the scale that we totally forget

00:32:08.259 --> 00:32:13.279
to pay attention or notice all of the other awesome

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.599
things that are happening around you or to you

00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.299
that are not just the number on the scale. Exactly.

00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.339
And I think I think it's very easy to get fixated

00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:28.450
on. Oh, I'm in a stall. Oh, I'm not moving forward.

00:32:28.650 --> 00:32:31.309
Oh, I'm not, you know, and like, it does happen.

00:32:31.410 --> 00:32:33.990
And like, we, we send that message to each other

00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:36.069
several times where we're like, we're literally

00:32:36.069 --> 00:32:39.049
complaining about this literally every week.

00:32:39.109 --> 00:32:41.009
I'm literally, we're complaining about this all

00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:44.349
the time, all the time. And even I'm still complaining

00:32:44.349 --> 00:32:47.170
about all of this. And then we will be each other's

00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:49.509
voice of reason where we'll say things like,

00:32:49.589 --> 00:32:52.720
dude. but you're wearing smaller clothes or didn't

00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.559
you just buy a size smaller? Didn't you just

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.220
do this? Or didn't you just do that? It's like

00:32:56.220 --> 00:32:59.240
working out twice a day. Oh, that was my advice

00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.519
to you the other day. I was like, it's so funny

00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.119
because it's stuff that like the stuff you tell

00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.740
me and the stuff I tell you, we listen when the

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:10.819
other person says it, but we know it's true.

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.119
We say the exact same words to the other person,

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.319
but we only listen. It's so silly. Yeah. It's,

00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.200
I mean, Yeah, I think it's the fundamentals of

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.339
psychology and therapy, to be honest. We don't

00:33:24.339 --> 00:33:25.259
want to hear it from ourselves. We don't want

00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:26.980
to hear it. But as soon as we hear it from somebody

00:33:26.980 --> 00:33:28.579
else, we're like, oh, that makes sense. That's

00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:30.299
so great. That's great advice. It's like, God

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:32.119
damn it. It's great advice for you too, you idiot.

00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.779
I could have told myself that. Yeah. Yeah. But

00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:37.680
we don't. Just hilarious. We just get so fixated

00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.759
on it. And then we forget, like you said, like.

00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.480
The wearing of the smaller clothes, the sitting

00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.660
in a chair and your legs aren't like touching

00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:49.079
the side or super squished. Like it just feels

00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.559
different or not like not needing to turn sideways

00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.880
to walk through a space because you can fit forward.

00:33:56.059 --> 00:33:57.380
Because you can go through. Like all of these

00:33:57.380 --> 00:34:00.119
things or like for me the other day, today, for

00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.619
me, it was clothes. I put on my jeans that I

00:34:03.619 --> 00:34:06.140
had in the closet that were my, I'll wear these

00:34:06.140 --> 00:34:08.380
one day. So I'm not going to throw them out.

00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:11.869
They are now too big. They were falling off me

00:34:11.869 --> 00:34:14.829
today. I had to keep, like, hiking them up. The

00:34:14.829 --> 00:34:17.050
pants I'm wearing now, like, are pajama pants

00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:20.449
that I bought, again, to fit one day. Yep. And

00:34:20.449 --> 00:34:22.789
I literally put them on a month ago to try them

00:34:22.789 --> 00:34:24.449
on and, like, couldn't get them over my thighs.

00:34:24.590 --> 00:34:25.929
I was like, this is not happening. And today

00:34:25.929 --> 00:34:28.050
they were just, like, right up. And they fit.

00:34:28.710 --> 00:34:30.829
And then yesterday I went to drive the truck

00:34:30.829 --> 00:34:34.530
after Devin had been in. And I got in the truck

00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:36.590
and I kind of did one of these. I was like, why

00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:40.079
am I so far back? I was like, oh, because I can

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.059
get closer now because they don't have as much

00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:45.639
junk in the way that I now have to scooch the

00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.599
seat forward when I drive vehicles. I love it.

00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.519
But like it's all those things that we don't

00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.420
think about and we just let them pass by. We

00:34:53.420 --> 00:34:55.559
don't give them the time of day. We don't. And

00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.920
we really, it's so important to stop and take

00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.420
stock of all of those other things because they

00:35:03.420 --> 00:35:06.380
have big implications on your day -to -day life

00:35:06.380 --> 00:35:09.619
too. They do. And it's almost like we're discrediting

00:35:09.619 --> 00:35:13.980
the effort and work that we've put in. And they

00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:16.239
do tell you like take before and after photos

00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.420
because that will show you more than a scale

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:22.000
ever will. And I cannot emphasize that enough.

00:35:22.059 --> 00:35:24.599
The photos, like there are days that I have to

00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.420
just go look at the photos because I'm like,

00:35:26.500 --> 00:35:29.239
whoa, whoa, whoa. Because you don't see it when

00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.610
you look at yourself every day. The body dysmorphia

00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:35.250
is real. So you don't, you don't see what's there.

00:35:35.449 --> 00:35:38.469
You don't, you don't take it in on a date to

00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:40.989
date basis. And the changes are small, right?

00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:43.190
From a day to day basis. So you don't notice.

00:35:43.429 --> 00:35:45.690
But when you have photos, you're like, whoa,

00:35:45.809 --> 00:35:48.570
I'm bad at this too. I wish I had more videos,

00:35:48.570 --> 00:35:51.449
to be honest, like mainly for social, but we

00:35:51.449 --> 00:35:53.840
don't. When you're at the start of this, you

00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.900
typically aren't happy with yourself. You're

00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:58.460
typically like, I'm the person who was never

00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:00.639
in the photos. I don't want to be in a photo.

00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:03.320
The last thing I want to do is strip down to

00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.340
my gitch and take a photo of myself in the mirror.

00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.039
Not happening. I never think of it. It's just

00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.900
never a thought. And then I will have those changes.

00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:14.400
I'm like, damn, I should have taken the photo.

00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:16.840
You will always look back and regret not taking

00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.170
the photo 100%. Always wish you had more. The

00:36:20.170 --> 00:36:22.750
measurements, the photos, the before and afters.

00:36:23.550 --> 00:36:25.670
Do yourself a favor, take them now. You don't

00:36:25.670 --> 00:36:27.030
have to look at them. You don't have to look

00:36:27.030 --> 00:36:29.949
at them, but take them. And take them often,

00:36:30.090 --> 00:36:32.809
especially if you think it's going slow and nothing's

00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:35.130
happening. Like, you would be shocked what your

00:36:35.130 --> 00:36:37.349
body looks like week over week. It will help

00:36:37.349 --> 00:36:39.050
you through the stalls where you're mentally

00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:41.269
like, I'm not losing weight. Yeah, but you're

00:36:41.269 --> 00:36:44.150
losing inches. You're losing, like, your body

00:36:44.150 --> 00:36:46.440
is starting to take a different shape. Things

00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.780
are moving around. Focus on things that aren't

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:52.159
the scale. Which is so hard. Do you remember

00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.239
your first non -scale victory? Mine? After surgery?

00:36:56.579 --> 00:37:00.400
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And you'll have many, many.

00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:03.000
But do you remember, like, the first one that

00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.760
kind of came up? I think it was a clothing thing,

00:37:06.820 --> 00:37:10.699
too. Yeah. I think it was a shirt. No, you know

00:37:10.699 --> 00:37:14.400
what it was? It was the gray sweater. I thrifted.

00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.820
a gray sweater. And I remember I bought it after

00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:20.920
surgery and it was an extra large and it was,

00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.119
I've shown it to you before. It's a gray sweater

00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.880
and it's got like slits on the sides and it's

00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.199
kind of scooped at the bottom and it's a bit

00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.199
of a tighter fitting sweater. And I remember

00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.500
I thrifted it because we had been talking about

00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:34.059
clothing and how, you know, I don't want to buy

00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:36.400
all this clothes because it changes. So I had

00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.699
been at. at the thrift store looking for something

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:40.280
for the kids and I saw this sweater and I was

00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.159
like this is really cute but it's like fitted

00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.539
and it's and I was like and it's an extra large

00:37:44.539 --> 00:37:46.260
I was like you know what I'm gonna buy it was

00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:48.360
like three dollars nice and I remember buying

00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:53.400
it then and putting it on and I was like pouring

00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.440
myself into it but I wanted to see and then I

00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.320
left it and then I forgot about it oh no and

00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.079
then a couple weeks off and then I remember that

00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:03.719
was like the first piece of clothing then that

00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.260
I was like okay I'm going to try it on because

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:08.179
I didn't want to try something on and have it

00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:11.320
not fit and be discouraged. And I remember trying

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.239
it on and it fit and it was still a bit tighter

00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.019
than what was comfortable for me, but it fit.

00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.400
And I remember I sent it to you too. And I was

00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.840
like, I got it. I was so happy for you. That

00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.880
one. And when I put on, when we went, the co

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.800
-op in town had Carhartt hoodies on sale and

00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.929
Devin was going to go at lunch over. work break

00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:34.710
lunch and I said go because they're going to

00:38:34.710 --> 00:38:37.630
sell out fast and I really want one and he forgot

00:38:37.630 --> 00:38:41.469
to go and so we went after work and they only

00:38:41.469 --> 00:38:45.230
had smalls and mediums left but they had a medium

00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:47.309
in this really nice green and I love green and

00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:49.190
he was like just buy it I'm like I'm not buying

00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:51.150
it it's not going to fit for like two years like

00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:53.329
it's a medium let's be honest it's not going

00:38:53.329 --> 00:38:55.829
to fit for a long time he's like just buy it

00:38:55.829 --> 00:38:58.769
just buy it yeah and I bought it so he looked

00:38:58.769 --> 00:39:01.230
he's like I bet you it'll fit you I was like,

00:39:01.269 --> 00:39:03.309
there's no way in hell. Like, I just got this

00:39:03.309 --> 00:39:05.670
extra large sweater on. There's no way in hell.

00:39:05.969 --> 00:39:07.989
And he's like, just try it on. And I was like,

00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:10.429
fine. I'll have a starting point. And the freaking

00:39:10.429 --> 00:39:13.389
thing fit. Like, it was a little tight in the

00:39:13.389 --> 00:39:15.769
sides. Too tight that I wouldn't wear it in public.

00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:21.469
But the fact that I even got it on my body. Yeah.

00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:24.429
Best feeling ever. Because I wasn't that far

00:39:24.429 --> 00:39:28.150
down on the scale yet. No. But it was just like,

00:39:28.269 --> 00:39:32.510
holy shit. Your body changes. rapidly yeah yeah

00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:34.730
it's not just the weight lost on the scale you're

00:39:34.730 --> 00:39:37.309
gaining muscle you've got what like you have

00:39:37.309 --> 00:39:40.809
your whole body shape changes it's very cool

00:39:40.809 --> 00:39:43.969
um i had a lot of clothing ones too i will admit

00:39:43.969 --> 00:39:47.030
like a lot of clothing ones the but the one that

00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:50.469
i remember the one that was like really impactful

00:39:50.469 --> 00:39:54.849
was six months post -op going on my cruise getting

00:39:54.849 --> 00:39:58.269
on the airplane and having all of this like extra

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:00.130
room on the seatbelt. I'm so excited for that

00:40:00.130 --> 00:40:03.989
when I go in May. I'm so excited. I took a photo

00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:07.250
of like, not only was I crossing my legs, which

00:40:07.250 --> 00:40:08.849
was like a huge thing. Oh, that's a big one.

00:40:09.070 --> 00:40:11.570
Yeah, that one was so cool. So the photo is me

00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:14.650
crossing my legs with like all this extra room.

00:40:14.909 --> 00:40:18.929
And I was like, never have I ever had extra seatbelt

00:40:18.929 --> 00:40:21.530
room. And not only that, but like, I'm not taking

00:40:21.530 --> 00:40:25.250
up the whole seat. Like I'm not feeling the armrest.

00:40:25.349 --> 00:40:27.570
Like I could, I could literally move over and

00:40:27.570 --> 00:40:28.230
show the seats. You're not panicked about who's

00:40:28.230 --> 00:40:30.050
going to be beside you because you're going to

00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:33.449
be, I'm so excited to like, I love traveling

00:40:33.449 --> 00:40:36.130
and I love flying, but I always get stressed

00:40:36.130 --> 00:40:39.130
about that part of it. Right. And this is the

00:40:39.130 --> 00:40:41.690
first time that like, I'm actually excited. Devin,

00:40:41.769 --> 00:40:44.130
so Devin and the girls and I are going, Devin

00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:45.969
and the girls are sitting together and I'm sitting

00:40:45.969 --> 00:40:48.570
on the aisle beside them. And I'm actually for

00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:53.820
once like not super stressing out. about having

00:40:53.820 --> 00:40:56.619
a stranger beside me. Okay. Which is new. It's

00:40:56.619 --> 00:41:02.079
great. But I'm so excited for the seatbelt, which

00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:04.179
is crazy. And the fact the crossing legs is huge.

00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:05.920
Like when I used to cross my legs, I can't do

00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.440
it right now, but I used to have to like kind

00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.320
of like squish myself over to like move things

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.659
around and then hoist your leg over. And it was

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:17.139
never comfortable, right? It was never comfortable.

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.340
But you have to do like, I had to do like the

00:41:19.340 --> 00:41:21.980
squish over and then the like. Like, let's go.

00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.039
Yeah. But now the fact that I can just sit normally

00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.500
and just be like. Cross your leg. Okay, cool.

00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:31.119
Yep. And I, they look like my legs don't fall

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.539
asleep from the pressure of sitting across. No

00:41:33.539 --> 00:41:35.980
pain. I used to just, I was only able to put

00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:38.619
my leg like, you know, across. Like it was never

00:41:38.619 --> 00:41:40.480
going to balance. It was just like. It never

00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.739
went over. It always stuck out to the side. And

00:41:42.739 --> 00:41:46.139
it hurt. Like I couldn't keep it. Like now it's

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:48.380
just so natural that I just, and like. I sit

00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:51.280
across like it all the time now. I sit on the

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.820
couch and I just instinctively cross my legs.

00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:55.960
And I never have to worry about where I'm going

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:58.099
to sit, sitting in a chair, fitting in a chair.

00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.920
There's room. I remember one day, I don't even

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.139
remember what I was doing. I think I had just

00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:06.739
come back for a run or I don't know. I was doing

00:42:06.739 --> 00:42:09.440
something, but I sat in the chair. I was playing

00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.760
video games. I was sitting in the chair and Bo

00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.960
decides to just shove his fat ass up in this

00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.920
chair and like turn around and lay down. And

00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.929
I was like, oh, there's room for me to sit. And

00:42:19.929 --> 00:42:23.949
my 65 pound dog to sit in this chair. And I was

00:42:23.949 --> 00:42:25.630
like that, like, I wouldn't even have room for

00:42:25.630 --> 00:42:29.550
the cat before surgery. So yeah. Okay. There's

00:42:29.550 --> 00:42:31.610
some really cool non -scale victories out there.

00:42:31.630 --> 00:42:34.010
And a lot of them will revolve around clothes

00:42:34.010 --> 00:42:36.809
for the first bit. So we recommend like buy,

00:42:36.849 --> 00:42:39.150
buy an outfit for like a couple months after

00:42:39.150 --> 00:42:41.230
surgery, because it's really fun to try it on

00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:43.550
and see how close you're getting. And oh my God,

00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:45.690
it's almost fitting. And I bought so many that

00:42:45.690 --> 00:42:48.000
I forgot. two or three and then tried them on

00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.500
I was like well I missed the fucking window on

00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:51.599
wearing these because they're too big which is

00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.340
annoying um keep some of your old clothes so

00:42:55.340 --> 00:42:58.559
that you can do a photo shoot because at um a

00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.260
hundred pounds lost I went and got back into

00:43:01.260 --> 00:43:03.960
my jeans and I could fit in one side of my jeans

00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.360
and I had the shirt that used to be super tight

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.219
on me and I was like whoa this is this is crazy

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:13.599
but there are other non -scale victories um that

00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.179
don't just revolve around like how you look or,

00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:18.840
or clothes. So don't panic if you're like, tie

00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:22.159
your shoes without like being out of breath or

00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.079
hurting or having your foot up somewhere. Yeah.

00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:29.380
Yeah. Like lifting up your legs to put your socks

00:43:29.380 --> 00:43:31.719
on without having to sit down to put your socks

00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.219
on. Yep. Taking the garbage out without being

00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:37.320
out of breath. Right. Oh, walking up. I went

00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.500
to physiotherapy and the elevator didn't work.

00:43:39.539 --> 00:43:42.570
Not that I needed it, but. taking the stairs

00:43:42.570 --> 00:43:44.630
or at work. The parking garage elevators weren't

00:43:44.630 --> 00:43:46.469
working and I parked on the third level. Like

00:43:46.469 --> 00:43:48.570
walking up three flights of stairs was nothing.

00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:51.630
I was like, oh my God, I forgot how like a flight

00:43:51.630 --> 00:43:53.769
of stairs. When I used to go get blood worked

00:43:53.769 --> 00:43:56.449
on, it was a flight of stairs. Yeah. And I would

00:43:56.449 --> 00:43:58.809
have to stop at the top of the stairs for probably

00:43:58.809 --> 00:44:00.730
a good 10 minutes to catch my breath. Like I

00:44:00.730 --> 00:44:03.429
was so out of breath. And as soon as you know,

00:44:03.449 --> 00:44:05.110
you have to take the stairs right away. It's

00:44:05.110 --> 00:44:06.789
just like panic. Yeah. Because you're like, you're

00:44:06.789 --> 00:44:09.480
going to be hot and sweaty and a big mess. That

00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.820
was awesome that like I just instinctively take

00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:16.219
the stairs now. I walk more now. So like a non

00:44:16.219 --> 00:44:18.340
-scale victory was like parking at the back of

00:44:18.340 --> 00:44:20.019
the parking lot and walking or saying things

00:44:20.019 --> 00:44:22.360
like, whatever, we'll walk. Who cares? Like before,

00:44:23.539 --> 00:44:25.260
that's not the case. You would park as close

00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.780
as humanly possible because you're like, you

00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:30.480
don't want to walk. Right. No more pain in my

00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.519
legs. Oh, that's a big one. Joints. Huge one.

00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:35.900
I don't have swollen feet anymore. I don't have

00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:36.980
pain in my legs. Not having to think about the

00:44:36.980 --> 00:44:40.280
weight limit on things. Oh, my God. I haven't

00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.019
Googled that in forever. I will say I Googled

00:44:43.019 --> 00:44:45.019
it before I went horseback riding. And I was

00:44:45.019 --> 00:44:46.480
like, what the fuck are you Googling this for,

00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.440
my man? You're not even close to this. And like,

00:44:49.460 --> 00:44:52.800
I remember I was I couldn't horseback ride. I

00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.639
was over like I couldn't. I was too fat for horseback

00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.000
riding. And I got to go horseback riding last

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.210
year. And it was fucking incredible. I remember

00:45:01.210 --> 00:45:03.610
when we went last year to Canmore and we went

00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:06.050
in the gondola up to Sulphur Mountain and there

00:45:06.050 --> 00:45:08.869
was Devin, myself and Devin's friend. And I remember

00:45:08.869 --> 00:45:11.829
beforehand Googling the weight limit because

00:45:11.829 --> 00:45:13.840
I was. being paranoid that the three of us wouldn't

00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.860
be able to go on it. And then how do I, how do

00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:17.880
I bring that up? How do I address that? How do

00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.219
I like, because it, no, it was Devin, his friend,

00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.679
me, and then another, the other couple we were

00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.739
traveling with. And so I was like, okay, we can

00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:25.739
put the other couple in their own gondola, but

00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:27.320
then can the three of us go in this one? Like

00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.480
how, how do I bring that up? How do I say, I

00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:30.840
don't think we can all go in here. Like, are

00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.559
they going to question it when we pull up to

00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.219
the, to the gondola? Like so much stress. And

00:45:36.219 --> 00:45:40.070
now we're going back in May. And Devin, me, and

00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:41.869
the kids are all going on the gondola, and it's

00:45:41.869 --> 00:45:45.190
fine. Yeah. Whatever. I don't care. I literally

00:45:45.190 --> 00:45:47.050
don't need to think about it. You don't have

00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:49.230
to think about that anymore. Yeah. I think that's

00:45:49.230 --> 00:45:51.090
an on -scale victory, the fact of how little

00:45:51.090 --> 00:45:53.570
I think about my weight now. Holding chairs.

00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:57.210
Yeah. Holding chairs are the enemy. I don't have

00:45:57.210 --> 00:46:01.550
to think about it in a negative way anymore.

00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:04.289
I literally don't have to account for my weight.

00:46:04.289 --> 00:46:06.539
It doesn't take up any space. in your thoughts

00:46:06.539 --> 00:46:08.900
anymore. I don't have to worry about travel.

00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:13.000
I don't have to worry about doing rides, riding

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.880
roller coasters. I don't have to, I don't have

00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.940
to worry about finding something in a store.

00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.840
I no longer have to worry about any store you

00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.360
want. I can shop at any store. Oh my gosh. I

00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.500
am so excited to be able, I'm not there yet,

00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:29.320
but I'm so excited to be able to just like walk

00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.659
into a mall, see something in a window and walk

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.030
into any store and not have to go. Can't shop

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:38.369
there. Nope. Can't shop there. Oh, there's the

00:46:38.369 --> 00:46:42.409
one store I can shop in. Right? Yeah. I'm so

00:46:42.409 --> 00:46:44.030
excited for that freedom to just shop where I

00:46:44.030 --> 00:46:46.190
want. That one's pretty great. Yeah. You know

00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:49.050
what else? It's a little different. I wouldn't

00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:50.250
necessarily have thought of it as a non -scale

00:46:50.250 --> 00:46:56.010
victory, but being able to not finish the food

00:46:56.010 --> 00:46:59.230
on your plate and being okay with it. Yeah. That's

00:46:59.230 --> 00:47:01.269
a victory. The fact that I can now look at my

00:47:01.269 --> 00:47:06.130
plate, have food on it, be okay with saying I'm

00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:10.650
done. That has been a huge shift. Yep. I think

00:47:10.650 --> 00:47:14.909
knowing that even on days I'm not tracking, like

00:47:14.909 --> 00:47:17.269
if I go back and look at everything, I'm under

00:47:17.269 --> 00:47:21.510
1500 calories, right? Like I'm just instinctively

00:47:21.510 --> 00:47:24.849
doing it. I think a non -scale victory is I make

00:47:24.849 --> 00:47:28.820
better choices now. because I want to not because

00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:32.000
I have to like not because I'm scared of this

00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.179
or that like it's well I don't want that though

00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:36.900
right like and like I think another great one

00:47:36.900 --> 00:47:39.039
is is turning things down oh well you can have

00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.380
a slice right no I'm good actually I'm okay and

00:47:41.380 --> 00:47:44.519
being okay and like literally being okay yeah

00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.260
not being like oh my god but these are the things

00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:49.659
that like unless we take the time like now to

00:47:49.659 --> 00:47:52.380
sit down and think about them we don't give them

00:47:52.380 --> 00:47:55.860
enough time of day and we don't give them enough

00:47:56.329 --> 00:47:58.670
credit and no pun intended, but we don't give

00:47:58.670 --> 00:48:02.070
them enough weight. Like we don't, we just either

00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:04.710
brush them off or we don't even notice them.

00:48:04.809 --> 00:48:07.090
And I think it's so important in this journey

00:48:07.090 --> 00:48:09.849
when things like that happen to stop for a second,

00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:14.210
slow down, take a breath, acknowledge it, celebrate

00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:19.289
it, realize how big of a deal it is. It may not

00:48:19.289 --> 00:48:21.510
seem like that to somebody else, but to you,

00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.630
yeah. Give yourself the moment to acknowledge

00:48:24.630 --> 00:48:28.650
it. Yes, in society, we celebrate the scale,

00:48:28.710 --> 00:48:31.010
like we celebrate the number loss. And by all

00:48:31.010 --> 00:48:33.050
means, like you should celebrate that. Don't

00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:35.909
listen to the fat acceptance community that says

00:48:35.909 --> 00:48:37.889
that you aren't allowed to celebrate weight loss.

00:48:37.949 --> 00:48:42.070
Yes, you are. Yes, you are. You celebrate it.

00:48:42.070 --> 00:48:45.829
But these other things, these are things that

00:48:45.829 --> 00:48:47.989
might not have ever happened in your life before.

00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:51.050
And you need to stop and just be like. holy shit

00:48:51.050 --> 00:48:54.090
what i've done holy shit like i you know i just

00:48:54.090 --> 00:48:56.230
sat on an airplane and the seat belt had extra

00:48:56.230 --> 00:48:58.809
room like yeah i didn't have to pack an extender

00:48:58.809 --> 00:49:01.789
secretly in my backpack just in case i needed

00:49:01.789 --> 00:49:04.269
it and then try to quietly bring it out when

00:49:04.269 --> 00:49:06.510
nobody's looking my breathing is so much better

00:49:06.510 --> 00:49:09.750
or okay here's a great non -scale victory uh

00:49:09.750 --> 00:49:13.139
being flirted with for the first time. Now, have

00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:14.920
people flirted with me before? Maybe they have,

00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.500
but like, I was kind of like oblivious to it

00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:18.579
because of my self -esteem. You don't allow yourself

00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:23.139
to notice. No, but now you're kind of like, how

00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:25.500
are you doing? Like, I'm not interested, but

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:28.599
like, oh, like, thank you. Like there were definitely

00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.360
moments where I was like, oh my God. And like,

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.420
I don't even want to get into the whole side

00:49:32.420 --> 00:49:34.480
of like, it's so unfair that you're treated differently

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.000
because you're thin. Cool. We'll do that in a

00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.159
whole other podcast. Let's not, let's not ruin

00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.719
this moment. There's something really great about

00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.480
being flirted with. And the confidence. Yes.

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.900
And that's what it is. It is. It's because you

00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:50.239
now have the confidence to stand up tall, put

00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.260
yourself out there, dress differently, portray

00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:55.300
yourself differently. Even when I go like little

00:49:55.300 --> 00:49:57.480
things, like I go for my lunchtime walks and

00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:01.650
I'm not. I'm not hiding behind clothing anymore.

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:05.329
Like I'm not hiding behind the super baggy sweaters

00:50:05.329 --> 00:50:07.730
and the super baggy shirts. I'm just out there

00:50:07.730 --> 00:50:11.670
walking and getting my sunshine. And I had some

00:50:11.670 --> 00:50:15.369
two people in the last week that like I see on

00:50:15.369 --> 00:50:18.820
a regular basis not recognize me. both because

00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:21.179
I look different, but because my demeanor was

00:50:21.179 --> 00:50:23.239
just different. Like I had, I had somebody messaged

00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:24.900
me the other day and I was in the zone. I had

00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:26.639
my headphones on. I had my music. I wasn't, I

00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.159
know that feeling. And yeah. And she said that

00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:33.579
she saw me and thought, is that Steph? And did

00:50:33.579 --> 00:50:35.840
like a little wave at me, but then was like,

00:50:35.900 --> 00:50:37.300
no, no, no, that's not Steph. Quickly stopped

00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:40.420
waving, feeling silly. And then as she passed

00:50:40.420 --> 00:50:44.000
me, went, oh my God, it is. And so she messaged

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.659
me after she's like, I didn't even recognize

00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:48.210
you. And then my neighbor. I was out for lunchtime

00:50:48.210 --> 00:50:51.269
walk and she was out walking until we were like

00:50:51.269 --> 00:50:53.349
six feet away from each other. And I like went,

00:50:53.369 --> 00:50:55.949
I said, Hey, she came out. She goes, I had no

00:50:55.949 --> 00:50:59.329
idea who you were. And it's just like, because

00:50:59.329 --> 00:51:01.909
you carry yourself differently. You put yourself

00:51:01.909 --> 00:51:04.769
out there differently and that's huge too. Yeah.

00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:08.530
And that's, that's where it's like, um, it's

00:51:08.530 --> 00:51:10.309
not that you were treated differently because

00:51:10.309 --> 00:51:13.579
you were fat and like, Yeah, I get it. Beauty

00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:15.019
standards are beauty standards. Like, yeah, I

00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:17.119
get it. It's that there's a confidence about,

00:51:17.139 --> 00:51:19.380
you know, and it's not just that you're thin.

00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.280
It's that you just kind of feel more empowered.

00:51:22.300 --> 00:51:24.420
You feel better about yourself. You care less

00:51:24.420 --> 00:51:26.340
about like a lump and a bump and a wiggle and

00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:29.659
a jiggle. I don't really care much anymore. I

00:51:29.659 --> 00:51:32.000
wear the spandex running shirts and like, sure.

00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.760
Yeah. Because of my loose skin, I've got my boobs

00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.000
and then I've got my little boobs. Like I have

00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.239
to get the loose skin removed eventually. So

00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.480
I don't care. I run in tight clothes and I'm

00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.500
like, cool. Got a little roll here. Couldn't

00:51:44.500 --> 00:51:48.880
give a shit. Because I'm no longer 315 pounds.

00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:51.400
So I don't give a shit. I know I look good now.

00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:54.110
And it's part of what you've achieved. And it's,

00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:57.409
it's part of your, like, like a war wound, but

00:51:57.409 --> 00:52:00.710
it's like a trophy of this is, this shows what

00:52:00.710 --> 00:52:03.289
I went through and what I achieved. And it's,

00:52:03.289 --> 00:52:06.389
it's a literal weight has been lifted off your

00:52:06.389 --> 00:52:09.449
shoulders that you, and I've had people say like,

00:52:09.510 --> 00:52:12.929
you just look, yes, physically you look different,

00:52:12.969 --> 00:52:16.489
but you just look different. Like your smile

00:52:16.489 --> 00:52:19.949
is different. The glow is different. It's the

00:52:19.949 --> 00:52:23.289
whole thing, the whole package. I celebrate it.

00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:26.739
So I'm single. I said it a few times on here,

00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.159
which is something we'll talk about in a podcast.

00:52:29.420 --> 00:52:31.119
Guys, if you know somebody, Hannah's single.

00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:33.980
Yeah, I'm single. Do you have any available men

00:52:33.980 --> 00:52:37.579
looking for someone? Hello. In the Kitchener,

00:52:37.579 --> 00:52:41.719
Waterloo area. But I had a bunch of my friends

00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:43.559
help me pick dating profile apps. You were one

00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:45.699
of them. I sent everybody like nine pictures

00:52:45.699 --> 00:52:47.800
and I was like, Jesus, guys. So for the first

00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:49.500
time in my life, this is an on -scale victory.

00:52:50.059 --> 00:52:53.199
I had multiple pictures to pick from. Like before

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.159
when I would try to date, it was like, here are

00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.119
the two that I think kind of accurately convey

00:52:58.119 --> 00:52:59.940
my body. And I really don't want to show you,

00:52:59.960 --> 00:53:01.300
but I don't have any other options. But here

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:03.920
we go. Now I was like, guys, I literally have

00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.679
like a fucking camera roll of photos. I'm going

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:08.860
to need help narrowing this down to the best

00:53:08.860 --> 00:53:11.460
ones. And so I send all these photos out and

00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:13.280
that's a non -scale victory in itself. Yeah.

00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.019
Dating, feeling like I'm ready to date is a non

00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.949
-scale victory because my weight. has made me

00:53:18.949 --> 00:53:22.449
extremely self -conscious. But then the feedback

00:53:22.449 --> 00:53:24.809
I got was not like, oh my God, you're so hot.

00:53:24.889 --> 00:53:27.289
You look great. But the feedback I got was, you

00:53:27.289 --> 00:53:30.030
are so happy in all these photos. And I was like,

00:53:30.090 --> 00:53:31.630
oh, and it was a good friend. Her name is Kendall.

00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:35.940
And she said. You were just smiling so much in

00:53:35.940 --> 00:53:37.219
these photos. Like somebody just needs to tell

00:53:37.219 --> 00:53:39.340
you that because like you should compare it to

00:53:39.340 --> 00:53:42.980
your photos before. You're visibly happy in all

00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:44.760
of these photos. I just want you to know that.

00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:45.860
And so I went back to my camera roll. There's

00:53:45.860 --> 00:53:48.679
a real genuine natural glow that comes out. And

00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:50.519
I went and looked at just like, because I'll

00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.219
take some like outfit photos from my mom and

00:53:52.219 --> 00:53:53.820
stuff of like stuff I've thrifted. I don't share

00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:56.400
it on social. But I went back and looked at some

00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:57.820
of my photos and I was like, oh my God, that

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:01.079
stupid fucking grin on these photos of me just

00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.599
being like. Here's my jeans. Here's my outfit.

00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:05.860
Like, but I just have like a shit eaten grin

00:54:05.860 --> 00:54:09.260
on my face. And I just, I just realized, oh my

00:54:09.260 --> 00:54:12.079
God, it's always just, it's just there. It's

00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.900
genuine now. It's just there. It's not the fake

00:54:14.900 --> 00:54:17.139
I'm hiding behind my smile. It's not that you

00:54:17.139 --> 00:54:19.780
have such a pretty smile. Okay. And it's not

00:54:19.780 --> 00:54:23.099
the. Oh, you're such a jovial fat person. Like

00:54:23.099 --> 00:54:25.519
you're just the fun fat person. It's like now

00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:27.960
I'm allowed to be a bitch and it's totally fine.

00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.199
It's like, I don't have to be your fat, funny

00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:36.019
friend anymore. I'm genuinely happy and I'm genuinely.

00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.659
I'm who I want to be. Yeah. And if I don't like

00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:40.900
you. And I'm comfortable with it and I'm confident

00:54:40.900 --> 00:54:44.239
with it and I'm proud of it. And those are things

00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:47.320
that you cannot measure with a number. Yeah,

00:54:47.380 --> 00:54:51.500
exactly. And so. just just track them google

00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:53.420
too if you need to like see some other people's

00:54:53.420 --> 00:54:56.139
examples and make it unique to yourself like

00:54:56.139 --> 00:54:58.719
non -scale victory for somebody who maybe is

00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.679
like really addicted to pop is oh my god i went

00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.679
two months without having a single drop of any

00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:06.199
pop like that's fucking huge write them down

00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.360
either get like a little notebook or get a little

00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.000
whiteboard like i have a google doc google doc

00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:16.039
notepad on your phone i have a whiteboard like

00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:19.480
a sticky paper whiteboard thing on my wall that

00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.960
I used to use for work. But now I put my goals

00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.139
are on it. My little sayings are on it. Just

00:55:24.139 --> 00:55:26.019
quickly jot them there, but put them somewhere

00:55:26.019 --> 00:55:27.639
so that when you're having those days that you're

00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.139
really frustrated with yourself, that you can

00:55:30.139 --> 00:55:32.400
go back and look at them and remind yourself

00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:34.219
of all of the positive things. Look at what we've

00:55:34.219 --> 00:55:37.980
achieved. that negativeness around the scale

00:55:37.980 --> 00:55:40.119
will quickly go away. And that is why pictures

00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:44.019
matter because when you're in a stall, it's like

00:55:44.019 --> 00:55:47.960
looking at photos can really be empowering. But

00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.019
keeping track of the non -scale victories, I

00:55:50.019 --> 00:55:53.019
remember somebody who had surgery told me because

00:55:53.019 --> 00:55:55.340
she had had it before me and I only found out

00:55:55.340 --> 00:55:57.119
after, but it was still cool that I found this

00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.699
out. And she was like, oh, watch your hands.

00:55:59.860 --> 00:56:02.260
Your hands are going to be like the biggest,

00:56:02.340 --> 00:56:05.380
coolest change. And I was like, what the? and

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:07.960
like I consistently can't stop looking at my

00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.340
hands and like it doesn't look like much here

00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:12.880
but like yeah when I was obese these were sausage

00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.059
fingers like oh yeah like and I have man hands

00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:17.139
so like I get it but like these were like swollen

00:56:17.139 --> 00:56:19.940
I couldn't wear rings because nobody made rings

00:56:19.940 --> 00:56:22.179
big enough I could not fit my hand around my

00:56:22.179 --> 00:56:24.820
wrist at all and now I can like loop it around

00:56:24.820 --> 00:56:28.469
to the knuckle um to the knuckle but I will constantly

00:56:28.469 --> 00:56:31.110
just find myself looking at my hands going whoa

00:56:31.110 --> 00:56:34.130
and like I'm so glad someone told me that because

00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:37.110
I do look at my hands now and go just look at

00:56:37.110 --> 00:56:39.909
your hands like look at look at your hands alone

00:56:39.909 --> 00:56:42.730
my arms like they used to just be super huge

00:56:42.730 --> 00:56:45.429
and it's just like little things like that um

00:56:45.929 --> 00:56:48.309
Okay. I went and got new running shoes. I have

00:56:48.309 --> 00:56:50.929
a 10K coming up and I need new shoes because

00:56:50.929 --> 00:56:53.050
mine are, I don't like Hoka. We can have a whole

00:56:53.050 --> 00:56:56.170
pack. I hate Hoka's. So I went to get fitted

00:56:56.170 --> 00:56:58.769
for shoes. Now I'm a size nine, diehard wear

00:56:58.769 --> 00:57:01.349
size nine. That's, you know, I go into runner's

00:57:01.349 --> 00:57:02.989
choice and then he's like, let's measure your

00:57:02.989 --> 00:57:04.989
feet. And he's like, ma 'am, you're size eight.

00:57:05.190 --> 00:57:07.210
And I was like, excuse me? Your feet are eight.

00:57:07.329 --> 00:57:09.150
He's like, and your left foot's a little smaller

00:57:09.150 --> 00:57:11.130
than that. And I was like, excuse me? The fuck

00:57:11.130 --> 00:57:12.849
are you talking about? Eight. And I was like.

00:57:13.359 --> 00:57:15.400
I was like, I'm wearing a size nine. So we put

00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.320
the nines on and then I put an eight on and I

00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.340
was like, get rid of those clown shoes. Get them

00:57:19.340 --> 00:57:21.059
out of here. Like they didn't fit. I wear a size

00:57:21.059 --> 00:57:23.519
11. I always wear a size 11. Same thing. Tried

00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.500
and true. Every single pair of shoes I have,

00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.630
11. I don't even have to try mine. Give me an

00:57:27.630 --> 00:57:30.250
11. And I went, I said, okay, if we're going

00:57:30.250 --> 00:57:32.210
to actually do hikes in Canmore this time, because

00:57:32.210 --> 00:57:34.289
we're going for like activities this time for

00:57:34.289 --> 00:57:36.769
a trip, I want a pair of hiking shoes because

00:57:36.769 --> 00:57:39.610
Devin and the girls all have Doc Martens. They

00:57:39.610 --> 00:57:41.329
all have boots. They all have like stuff they

00:57:41.329 --> 00:57:44.309
can wear. I only have my on -cloud runners, my

00:57:44.309 --> 00:57:45.909
one pair. That's all I got. Not good for trails.

00:57:46.349 --> 00:57:48.909
No, I love my on -cloud runners. I actually bought

00:57:48.909 --> 00:57:51.829
them in Canmore last year. So we went to buy,

00:57:51.889 --> 00:57:53.650
I went to Marksburg Warehouse because they had

00:57:53.650 --> 00:57:56.510
their hiking shoes on sale. And so I was looking

00:57:56.510 --> 00:57:58.429
around and I saw a pair I really loved and I

00:57:58.429 --> 00:58:00.869
scoured and they didn't have an 11. And so I

00:58:00.869 --> 00:58:02.690
asked the ladies, do you have an 11? No, we don't

00:58:02.690 --> 00:58:05.389
have an 11. Okay, fine, of course. So there was

00:58:05.389 --> 00:58:07.769
another pair that wasn't, that was good. I didn't

00:58:07.769 --> 00:58:08.809
love them as much, but they were still really

00:58:08.809 --> 00:58:11.090
nice. And they only had them in a 9 and a 10.

00:58:12.030 --> 00:58:14.829
And they were on sale for like wicked cheap.

00:58:16.230 --> 00:58:17.889
So I said, Devin's like, get those. I was like,

00:58:17.929 --> 00:58:20.449
they don't have my size. He's like, what? I said,

00:58:20.469 --> 00:58:21.889
there's no 11. He goes, well, put the 10 on.

00:58:22.010 --> 00:58:25.610
I'm like, I need an 11. I put the 10 on like

00:58:25.610 --> 00:58:29.849
a glove. Like a glove. I put an 11 on in a similar

00:58:29.849 --> 00:58:34.110
pair. Nope. Too big. Nope. So now my hiking shoes.

00:58:34.369 --> 00:58:37.789
Yeah. Your feet will shrink. Yep. And your hands.

00:58:37.969 --> 00:58:40.989
This is the first time I have been able to wear

00:58:40.989 --> 00:58:43.230
my engagement ring, my wedding band, and my other

00:58:43.230 --> 00:58:47.809
two bands in five years. I have not worn all

00:58:47.809 --> 00:58:50.150
my rings in five years. And now. On scale victory.

00:58:50.449 --> 00:58:53.039
They're too big. Mm -hmm. The only thing, my

00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.679
engagement ring is still, it fits perfect. So

00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:57.679
it's holding all these other babies in place.

00:58:58.139 --> 00:59:00.340
But in a little while, she's going to be too

00:59:00.340 --> 00:59:02.599
loose. Might as well wait until they're all too

00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.179
loose to resize them. They just turn all day

00:59:06.179 --> 00:59:08.980
long. They're so loose. And I was like, you know

00:59:08.980 --> 00:59:10.960
what? Shit, man. I haven't worn them in five

00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.059
years. I finally can wear them all. And now a

00:59:13.059 --> 00:59:14.760
couple weeks later, I'm going to have to take

00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.119
them off because they're going to be too loose.

00:59:16.300 --> 00:59:18.219
Get them resized. And I'll get them resized eventually.

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:22.920
But just take stock. Take stock of all the things.

00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:25.960
Reflect and enjoy. There's so much to the bigger

00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.860
picture than the number. The pounds are important.

00:59:28.980 --> 00:59:31.840
The scale is important. Don't discredit it. But

00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.159
it's a fraction of the puzzle. Minuscule. Don't

00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.719
get too fixated on clothes for non -scale either.

00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.780
Like that is cool and that's great. Like you

00:59:40.780 --> 00:59:44.340
should. But things fit so different. So here's

00:59:44.340 --> 00:59:46.739
where it gets. Every brand fits different. Yep.

00:59:47.070 --> 00:59:49.010
And I just put this up on my Instagram, like

00:59:49.010 --> 00:59:51.269
maybe a couple of weeks ago where I was like,

00:59:51.329 --> 00:59:53.949
you've got to be fucking kidding me. I was going

00:59:53.949 --> 00:59:56.469
spring cleaning some stuff out and I went, oh,

00:59:56.610 --> 00:59:59.150
I wonder if that little bench jacket fits now

00:59:59.150 --> 01:00:01.849
because I bought this bench jacket while thrifting.

01:00:02.210 --> 01:00:04.750
It's supposed to be a large, but like a large

01:00:04.750 --> 01:00:07.989
for an American girl doll, maybe like what? And

01:00:07.989 --> 01:00:10.130
it never, anyway, now it fit. And I was like,

01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:13.650
it fits. Oh, sorry. It was a small, it was a

01:00:13.650 --> 01:00:15.670
small and it fit. And I was like, whoa. And then

01:00:15.670 --> 01:00:20.250
I went. So I wonder if the large that I thrifted

01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:23.750
fits and bench, same brand. I thrifted this like

01:00:23.750 --> 01:00:27.050
pink exercise jacket from there. I went to try

01:00:27.050 --> 01:00:29.030
to put it on because I was like, well, the fucking

01:00:29.030 --> 01:00:31.869
small fits me. I couldn't get it up over my boobs.

01:00:32.050 --> 01:00:34.449
Like I could maybe shove one boob in it, but

01:00:34.449 --> 01:00:36.550
then the other one was like, no, we're not closing.

01:00:36.730 --> 01:00:39.969
No. I was so pissed. Our last week's episode

01:00:39.969 --> 01:00:43.489
around travel. Yeah. I have a bench. zip up on

01:00:43.489 --> 01:00:45.789
over top of my green shirt and it was sitting

01:00:45.789 --> 01:00:48.530
I bought it years ago like probably eight years

01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:51.110
ago at Costco it was on sale and I was like one

01:00:51.110 --> 01:00:54.670
day I'm gonna wear this and I bought it and so

01:00:54.670 --> 01:00:56.309
the other day I was like hey I still have that

01:00:56.309 --> 01:00:59.289
bench zip up it probably fits now so I pull it

01:00:59.289 --> 01:01:01.550
out I look at it it's 2x I'm like oh yeah I'm

01:01:01.550 --> 01:01:04.289
not wearing 2x anymore this is no problem I put

01:01:04.289 --> 01:01:06.710
it on it fits in the arms and then I go to zip

01:01:06.710 --> 01:01:09.949
it up that baby made it like maybe to my belly

01:01:09.949 --> 01:01:12.780
button And I was like, you are a damn two X.

01:01:13.099 --> 01:01:17.159
Yeah. Bench can get bench. Yeah. Like, come on,

01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:19.559
this is an extra large and she's like, hang it.

01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.380
We need to do a whole episode on like brands

01:01:22.380 --> 01:01:25.000
and sizes, but that's just my only advice is

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.550
don't do it. everything clothing wise because

01:01:27.550 --> 01:01:30.349
i don't want you to ever get a brand that you

01:01:30.349 --> 01:01:32.210
buy a size and it doesn't fit you and then you

01:01:32.210 --> 01:01:34.150
start feeling really bad about yourself like

01:01:34.150 --> 01:01:35.929
when you're going to do non -scale victories

01:01:35.929 --> 01:01:38.789
for clothing do clothing that is kind of more

01:01:38.789 --> 01:01:42.690
universal like an old navy a gap an american

01:01:42.690 --> 01:01:46.409
eagle like something where it's not bench where

01:01:46.409 --> 01:01:48.760
you're going to be like I don't understand their

01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.300
sizing and I don't, and I'll, I'll reshare that

01:01:51.300 --> 01:01:53.280
post on the bariatric banter Instagram. Cause

01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.780
I was livid. And I was like, if this had happened

01:01:55.780 --> 01:01:58.760
to me. early on in surgery, I would have been

01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.380
so depressed, but I like now I just laugh about

01:02:01.380 --> 01:02:03.739
it. Cause I'm like, I know I'm not fat. I know

01:02:03.739 --> 01:02:06.099
that I'm a size smaller size eight. Now this

01:02:06.099 --> 01:02:08.460
brand can get by this. Don't go by the size,

01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:10.500
right? Like get yourself a shirt or sweater or

01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:12.880
something that's smaller that, you know, just

01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.119
by looking at it, it's not going to fit. And

01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:18.159
then use that as your, your benchmark, use that

01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.920
as your guiding post and try it on every so often.

01:02:20.980 --> 01:02:22.800
And it's not so much that you went from size

01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:26.269
a to B it's that. You clearly know you have shrunk

01:02:26.269 --> 01:02:29.369
because you can now fit into this shirt or this

01:02:29.369 --> 01:02:31.989
pants. And I had so many of those things. And

01:02:31.989 --> 01:02:34.289
I still do, by the way. I still have some outfits

01:02:34.289 --> 01:02:36.170
that I was like, this is super cute. It's a bit

01:02:36.170 --> 01:02:38.309
snug. I'm going to buy it anyway and just see

01:02:38.309 --> 01:02:39.809
what running does this year. I still have about

01:02:39.809 --> 01:02:43.289
15 pounds I want to lose. But buy the things.

01:02:43.429 --> 01:02:46.210
Just watch some of the brands. Same with Nike.

01:02:46.429 --> 01:02:49.510
Be cognizant. It's worse with athletic clothing,

01:02:49.690 --> 01:02:52.389
I find, which is just infuriating to no end.

01:02:52.610 --> 01:02:55.869
Always be athletic. fucking terrible yeah fucking

01:02:55.869 --> 01:02:57.989
terrible so i recommend thrifting especially

01:02:57.989 --> 01:03:00.030
in the first couple of years i also just like

01:03:00.030 --> 01:03:02.070
thrifting it's dope as hell but i just recommend

01:03:02.070 --> 01:03:04.789
thrifting yeah this is goodwill man i just got

01:03:04.789 --> 01:03:07.389
like you saw the photos i got the pack sun the

01:03:07.389 --> 01:03:10.150
good american and the american eagle jeans and

01:03:10.150 --> 01:03:13.289
i was like yeah this is so cool this is one of

01:03:13.289 --> 01:03:16.230
my favorite sweaters and i got it i got it for

01:03:16.230 --> 01:03:20.610
three dollars so focus on The scale is there.

01:03:20.670 --> 01:03:22.110
The scale is always going to be there. But, my

01:03:22.110 --> 01:03:24.030
God, your body is going to do some really cool

01:03:24.030 --> 01:03:27.030
fucking shit over the course of this. You know

01:03:27.030 --> 01:03:30.929
how non -scale Victor is? Oh, I can see whatever

01:03:30.929 --> 01:03:34.849
this is. Yeah, look. I got this. Look at my neck.

01:03:35.449 --> 01:03:41.309
Also, I don't have a double chin. Like, I don't

01:03:41.309 --> 01:03:44.809
have to, like, angle myself weirdly. I can see

01:03:44.809 --> 01:03:47.469
things. I can feel my collarbone. Like, you can

01:03:47.469 --> 01:03:51.619
feel. That's cool. I don't have leg pain. I can

01:03:51.619 --> 01:03:54.219
feel my collarbone. I can feel bones that I've

01:03:54.219 --> 01:03:57.159
never felt. I have muscle. Like, you can see

01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.119
muscle. My tailbone hurts all the time now from

01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.639
sitting. Yeah. My tailbone is always sore from

01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:03.219
sitting. My body's like, you know what you need

01:04:03.219 --> 01:04:06.139
to do? Get up and get going. Like, exercise is

01:04:06.139 --> 01:04:08.960
my non -skill victory, too. Like, what I've been

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.840
able to achieve kind of blows my mind. Yeah.

01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:15.519
The fact that I even think about and want to

01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.840
do two workouts a day. And I'm telling you, one

01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.659
day you'll be running with me. Maybe. I never

01:04:23.659 --> 01:04:25.380
thought I'd be a runner. And like now, welcome

01:04:25.380 --> 01:04:27.159
to the cult of Hannah. I'm going to convince

01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.719
you to be a runner. I said I would love to be

01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.500
one of those people that are like, hey, I'm going

01:04:31.500 --> 01:04:34.340
to go for a run. It just kind of hit me one day.

01:04:34.420 --> 01:04:36.239
The day that those words come out of my mouth

01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.760
because I want them to and I actually do it.

01:04:39.070 --> 01:04:42.469
Well, you could do a 10K with me and you can

01:04:42.469 --> 01:04:45.750
like lots of people walk these races. Yeah. And

01:04:45.750 --> 01:04:47.349
that'd be just cool that we could train for it

01:04:47.349 --> 01:04:49.369
in two different ways. Like that would actually

01:04:49.369 --> 01:04:51.250
be really cool for the podcast and Instagram.

01:04:51.730 --> 01:04:54.489
We're going to train for a 10K in two completely

01:04:54.489 --> 01:04:56.809
different ways as bariatric patients. Someone

01:04:56.809 --> 01:04:58.610
who wants to walk it within a certain amount

01:04:58.610 --> 01:05:00.849
of time and someone who wants to run it. And

01:05:00.849 --> 01:05:02.889
we could still work out and do it together. And

01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:04.519
then that's something that we can. do together.

01:05:04.659 --> 01:05:06.480
But that might be really cool to document that

01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:10.039
nothing is one size fits all. Just because it's

01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:12.119
called a race doesn't mean you have to run it.

01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.760
It's a race with yourself. And it's about the

01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.239
distance, not about how fast you do it or what

01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.619
way you do it. It's about the distance. So that

01:05:20.619 --> 01:05:22.860
might be something really cool we could do. That

01:05:22.860 --> 01:05:26.179
could be coming soon. Stay tuned. Let us know.

01:05:26.420 --> 01:05:29.599
If you would have told me even four months ago,

01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.460
three months ago, that I would be... actively

01:05:32.460 --> 01:05:36.139
doing two workouts a day plus a walk and wanting

01:05:36.139 --> 01:05:39.880
to, I would have called you a liar. Yeah. And

01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:41.739
that's the thing. It's the discipline. That's

01:05:41.739 --> 01:05:44.199
the non -scale victory for me. It's the discipline.

01:05:44.579 --> 01:05:46.519
I maybe don't want to do it, but I'm going to

01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.880
do it. Tomorrow, I have a long run. And I could

01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.219
tell you, right? Good goddamn well now, I don't

01:05:51.219 --> 01:05:53.780
want to do this long run tomorrow. But there's

01:05:53.780 --> 01:05:56.360
just something where I wake up and go, but I'm

01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.380
kind of impressed that you are doing it. And

01:05:58.380 --> 01:06:02.300
so yesterday was a 5K. straight because i was

01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:05.400
doing run walk run walk but yeah uh now that

01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:09.900
the race is close almost here um i was like no

01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:11.760
you're just gonna get out and run straight 5k

01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.639
just see how far you can go and so it's it's

01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.480
discipline um but when you look back on it it

01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.980
makes you go holy shit did you ever think you'd

01:06:19.980 --> 01:06:23.380
be doing this yeah riding a horse running races

01:06:23.380 --> 01:06:26.699
breathing normally um the other thing that's

01:06:26.699 --> 01:06:31.190
like i'll end on it I got pneumonia and I was

01:06:31.190 --> 01:06:33.510
hospitalized with pneumonia at Christmas time.

01:06:33.610 --> 01:06:36.789
And it was bad. Like my eye could could barely

01:06:36.789 --> 01:06:38.989
breathe. That's why I was admitted, because they

01:06:38.989 --> 01:06:41.369
said your oxygen is dangerously low and it's

01:06:41.369 --> 01:06:43.489
like you're not breathing on your own. So you're

01:06:43.489 --> 01:06:46.489
going to be admitted. And I said, OK. I recovered

01:06:46.489 --> 01:06:50.559
and was discharged three, four days later. And

01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:52.059
they said, like, we're not going to give you

01:06:52.059 --> 01:06:54.079
a room and a bed because we don't want you here.

01:06:54.179 --> 01:06:56.519
Like, you're a really healthy individual. You're

01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.739
going to stay in short stay for anybody who knows

01:06:58.739 --> 01:07:00.860
short stay. Like, it's not a dedicated room.

01:07:00.940 --> 01:07:02.599
It's surgical short stay. You're supposed to

01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:04.480
be in and out. And, you know, we're going to

01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.639
push you. And they did get up, get walking. They

01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:08.460
pushed me. It wasn't, you know, oh, God, oh,

01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.159
my Jesus, call her parents, get the priest in

01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:12.500
here. This is horrible. No, they pushed me. And

01:07:12.500 --> 01:07:14.539
they said, you're really healthy. You can handle

01:07:14.539 --> 01:07:17.900
this. You can do this. And I remember my mom

01:07:17.900 --> 01:07:20.159
saying, could you imagine? if you had caught

01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.780
pneumonia before surgery. And I said, I don't

01:07:23.780 --> 01:07:25.519
know what would have happened with all that weight,

01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:29.239
with having no training, with having no endurance

01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.239
built up, with having nothing. Like, I don't

01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.780
even want to imagine pneumonia. And that's the

01:07:34.780 --> 01:07:38.139
thing. Like, that's a non -scale victory. Nobody

01:07:38.139 --> 01:07:40.239
wants to get sick. Like, nobody fucking wanted

01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.420
pneumonia. But the non -scale victory was...

01:07:43.420 --> 01:07:44.440
But it's a way to call it how far you've come.

01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:46.679
Well, and it kind of makes me think, like...

01:07:46.889 --> 01:07:50.909
I need to stick with this because you take things

01:07:50.909 --> 01:07:54.250
for granted sometimes, right? Like you want to

01:07:54.250 --> 01:07:56.230
be able to fight this off. And my biggest thing

01:07:56.230 --> 01:07:59.210
I told people was I would like to walk into the

01:07:59.210 --> 01:08:01.489
operating room because I chose to, not because

01:08:01.489 --> 01:08:03.969
I'm being wheeled in against my will. And so.

01:08:04.780 --> 01:08:07.280
Non -scale victories can also be no longer being

01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.400
on blood pressure medication, no longer being

01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:12.960
on cholesterol medication, having regular periods

01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.780
again for the first time in years in my life.

01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.039
Those can be non -scale victories because you

01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:22.279
don't give enough credit to the fact that you

01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:25.090
not only lost weight to look better. You are

01:08:25.090 --> 01:08:27.949
prolonging your life in ways that you won't know

01:08:27.949 --> 01:08:30.590
until hopefully you never have to find out. But

01:08:30.590 --> 01:08:32.689
you won't know all that you've achieved until

01:08:32.689 --> 01:08:36.670
you face sickness and realize what would this

01:08:36.670 --> 01:08:39.670
have been like if I wasn't a healthy individual.

01:08:39.729 --> 01:08:43.369
So that really scared me and opened my eyes that

01:08:43.369 --> 01:08:45.130
like if that's what that was like to go through

01:08:45.130 --> 01:08:50.430
at peak health. You want to know. Nope. And that's

01:08:50.430 --> 01:08:52.930
why in Canada this is covered. Because they know

01:08:52.930 --> 01:08:56.609
if they're preventative with weight, you will

01:08:56.609 --> 01:08:58.470
do better. You'll fare better. There's so many

01:08:58.470 --> 01:09:02.010
trickle effects. Yeah. It impacts so much down

01:09:02.010 --> 01:09:04.970
the road and in the future too. It does. Maybe

01:09:04.970 --> 01:09:06.909
we'll talk about all of that comorbidities and

01:09:06.909 --> 01:09:10.270
things. But we're excited. Track your victories,

01:09:10.329 --> 01:09:12.250
guys. Track your victories. And then share them

01:09:12.250 --> 01:09:14.289
with us. We want to hear them. Like we want to

01:09:14.289 --> 01:09:15.750
feature them and share them. And you know what?

01:09:16.010 --> 01:09:17.989
Steph and I will do a better job of sharing them

01:09:17.989 --> 01:09:21.149
as well. We will share our non -scale victories

01:09:21.149 --> 01:09:23.409
because you still have them. I'll share my pants

01:09:23.409 --> 01:09:27.909
one, my one -day jeans. I'll share that one tomorrow.

01:09:28.090 --> 01:09:30.510
I'll share my airline stuff. I'll share, yeah,

01:09:30.590 --> 01:09:33.890
I'll share a bunch of great ones, but share them

01:09:33.890 --> 01:09:35.750
with us too. We want to hear your non -scale

01:09:35.750 --> 01:09:38.630
victories or what you plan to be your non -scale

01:09:38.630 --> 01:09:41.920
victories before surgery. But thank you for joining

01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.140
us for episode 12. We just love the crap out

01:09:45.140 --> 01:09:47.479
of you guys. Keep giving us ideas and topics.

01:09:47.619 --> 01:09:50.640
We cannot wait to be back for episode 13. And

01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.500
I'll be able to tell you all about Nashville

01:09:52.500 --> 01:09:56.220
in that one and how I navigated it. Love it.

01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.079
Thanks, guys. Like always, Steph, thanks for

01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:03.319
joining me. Anytime. Bye, everybody. Yeah, bye,

01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:04.140
guys. Bye.