Episode 1: Our Journey Begins (Part 2)

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This is something we've always wanted to talk about is you like, you're kind of on your

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own, not in a bad way.

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So yes, we get to be patients of our clinic for a year post-op.

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Cool.

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But a lot of bariatric surgery is really on you.

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So after surgery, you check in with them, you know, immediately after and a couple of

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weeks after that.

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But then you get kind of onto a three month cadence where you go three months without

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talking to your surgical team, without talking to your nurse, your social worker, your dietitian.

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Now, obviously I had on top of this, I found my own dietitian.

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I still had my therapist who she was so wonderful and learned so much about bariatric surgery

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because that's all we basically talked about every month was how do I meal prep better?

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And I'm scared to gain the weight back.

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So I did have my own outside of that.

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But that being said, there's so many questions you're going to have.

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Is this normal?

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Should this feel like this?

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Am I overeating?

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How many calories should I have?

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How do I find the macros I need?

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Like you are consistently kind of out there to figure it out.

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Now is the clinic always there?

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Sure.

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The clinic is busy as balls, so I email the clinic and they'll get back to me maybe a

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month later.

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If I have an emergency, I can pick up the phone and call them.

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But a lot of it is figuring it out.

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Yeah, you're fine.

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Don't worry about it.

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You know, talk to your family doctor if you're concerned about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And I'm not saying like any of my problems were like, oh, what?

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I think I'm dying.

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But it was more, is this too many calories?

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Is this too much?

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Am I allowed to eat this?

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Is this supposed to feel like this?

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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I threw up after eating this soup.

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Is that a problem?

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Why am I so sweaty after I ate something I shouldn't have eaten?

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It's a lot of just, okay, the biggest, biggest area you'll be by yourself and question you

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have and Steph, I'm curious to hear if you agree with this.

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The number one question that consistently came up for my entire fucking year that I

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desperately seeked answers for was, am I losing enough weight?

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Oh my, yes.

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110% yes.

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Because that's one area where we don't, we're not given statistics.

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So we're not really given, again, love our program, but in general, we're not given really

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good guidance in terms of how many calories should I be eating at this point?

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Is being this level of hungry normal, whether it's too hungry or not hungry enough?

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So am I eating enough and am I on track with where I should be in terms of weight loss?

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So when I went for my post-op appointment in person, I was about, oh my gosh, about

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a month, a month out, little over a month.

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And up until that point, I had no idea if I was doing well.

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And so I went to that appointment and they said that I was right on track, which was

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phenomenal.

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It was such a relief to hear.

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But now another month, another six weeks out, again, am I still on track?

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I don't know.

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Is this where I should be?

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I don't know.

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I'm happy with where I am today, but a lot of those questions are kind of left unanswered.

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There's a lot of Googling.

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There's a lot of messaging, Hannah, saying, is this where you were?

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Because that's kind of one of those missing pieces.

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And I 100% all the time am wondering, am I supposed to be on a stall right now?

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Oh my gosh, the scale went up a pound.

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Is this normal?

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Did I do something wrong?

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So that is for sure an area where I think we're lacking a little bit in terms of guidance

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and support.

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Yeah.

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And that was what led to a ton of Googling and a ton of searching for things was...

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And I would ask the nurse and the dietician, I even asked the goddamn social worker, I

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was like, how much weight have I...

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Am I where I'm supposed to be?

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And they'd always give the same fucking answer.

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Oh, you're fine.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You're right where you're supposed to be.

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And I was like, yeah, but am I at the bottom of doing great or the top of doing great?

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Could I be doing better?

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Yeah.

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As a super perfectionist.

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Like, great is good.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's definitely something that I...

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And I am curious if that's, from what I've heard, that's similar to the other programs

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in Ontario as well.

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I'm curious to see, I have a friend who's just starting to go through the program in

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Hamilton and so she's just waiting to get her surgery or get matched with her surgeon.

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I think she has one more appointment.

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And so I've said to her, we've been in close contact the whole time, but I said to her,

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I'm very curious to see what kind of post-op guidelines she's given around that, if any.

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So that's going to be something that I'm definitely going to poke and prod her for because I want

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to know if that's specific to us or not.

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And that's something that we'll do in another podcast episode is we'll actually take you

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through the differences between our program and a program literally an hour away from

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us.

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And then also we're going to tell you the differences between my program and Steph's

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program.

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Even though we had our surgery...

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I thought you were in the same place.

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We had the same fucking surgeon and we had the same clinic.

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We both did this in a hospital called Gwell's in Ontario and we were one year apart.

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And sweet Jesus, the differences between her surgery and my surgery are insane.

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You would have thought we went to different programs.

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You 100% would have thought that she was in some other province than I am.

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And it's so funny because it's one year apart and there's changes that I'm furious that

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she got that I didn't, but then there's also things that she's like, what the fuck?

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You didn't have to do this.

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And I'm like, I did not have to do that.

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And that seems crazy to me.

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Or consistency that you got in your appointments that I didn't get.

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The pros and cons that we both had when comparing, but yeah, there was many voice notes sent

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back and forth where one of us would go, excuse me, what?

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You have to what?

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You got what?

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I was quite pissed at one point.

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We'll dig into it, but oh, agreed.

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When you had consistent...

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So when I had my appointments, I was always meeting with a different nurse or dietitian

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or social worker.

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And don't get me wrong, they were the nicest people.

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Very helpful, very great, but it was always somebody different.

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Whereas Hannah had the same person every time.

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So there was a bit more of a relationship.

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The history was there.

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It was just more concise conversations probably than me having to repeat things and then having

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to go, hold on, I have to check your chart one second.

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So things like that, which as we said, we'll get into a little bit more.

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We'll do a whole episode about...

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We'll take you through all the surgical things that are different between her time and my

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time.

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And then also we know people who went to a different clinic an hour away and theirs is

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totally different than ours.

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So we'll talk about all those differences and our annoyance with a lot of them because

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there was.

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And not to be mean, we love our clinic and we love what they did, but we're also going

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to talk in that podcast episode about some of the things that kind of piss us off.

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That we were like, this just isn't fair.

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And I'll give a very brief example.

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None of our post-op appointments are in person.

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So obviously I think some of that started because of COVID, but that was four years

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ago.

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But none of our follow-up appointments with any of these people...

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For you.

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For me, sorry, for me I should say.

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Well, yours keep all getting canceled.

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But none of our follow-up appointments were in person.

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And so we have a little bit of a problem with that because being obese, you're very used

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to lying, hiding things, covering it up.

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We didn't get obese in the dark, but we're really good at denying that we've eaten things

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and we just became good at covering things up.

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Sure, I stuck to my meal plan this weekend.

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Of course I did.

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I didn't eat enough.

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I'm actually starving myself because I only eat one meal a day.

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That's why I'm fat, because technically my body is in starvation mode, so it's going

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to hang on to all the calories I eat, even though I only eat one meal a day.

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That was me.

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That was Hannah, by the way.

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That's what I used to fucking say for an entire year, that I'm obese, 315 pounds, because

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I don't eat enough.

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Jesus Christ.

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I have two in-person post-op appointments, which you never got.

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And there was one of them, my one post-op appointment that I have coming up in a week

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or so.

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You didn't even get any follow-up appointment with that doctor.

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I did not.

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I did not see that doctor.

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Not even a phone call.

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Nope, did not see that doctor after surgery.

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But my annoyance with no in-person is it's going to be very easy for you to be like,

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oh, I lost this much weight, because they just ask you, how much weight have you lost?

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What's your current weight?

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It's going to be super fucking easy to lie about that.

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Are you following the diet plan?

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Sure.

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As I eat my McDonald's ice cream.

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I totally am.

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It's just going to be easy to lie and cover things up.

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I used to tell Steph this.

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My biggest thing is doctors need you to come in for the simplest things in Canada.

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Oh, do you need a refill on your prescription?

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You actually have to come see your doctor to do that.

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I know people are going to be like, the fuck?

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Yeah, literally.

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I take vitamin D, prescription vitamin D, because I'm just low all the fucking time.

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I've been taking it for well over two and a half years now.

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And every time my refill expires, I still need to go see my doctor to get another one.

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Because the doctor just wants to lay eyes on you and make sure you're not missing an

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arm, gray, have open sores on your body.

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You've gained 100 pounds.

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My mom says, my mom is a retired nurse, and she'll always say, patients fucking lie.

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All they fucking do is lie.

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It's true, we do.

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You need to put eyes on them.

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That was my biggest concern was you didn't want to see me once after surgery to make

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sure I actually was losing the weight, I said, to make sure that I wasn't looking sickly

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or ill or die.

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We'll cover that all in another podcast episode because I get real heated about this.

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It's weird to me that you don't want to see us.

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It's very odd.

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I think anybody in my immediate family also that I've talked to, they find it extremely

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strange.

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And my post-op with the surgeon was in person.

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It wasn't my surgeon, he was unfortunately unavailable, but it was someone who was still

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in my surgery.

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And that was in person.

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And then yes, I have one in about a week with the internal medicine doctor, which is in

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person.

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Motherfucker.

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But I know, and I'm actually surprised that one's in person.

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But as you said, the follow up I just had a couple weeks ago on the phone when they asked,

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what's your weight?

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I can make up any number I want.

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Sure could.

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It's shocking to a lot of people who I speak to.

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So we'll, as Haters said, we'll dig into that a little bit more.

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And I know there's going to be people being like, why would you lie?

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You just hurt yourself.

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Oh boy, this brings up a great point we wanted to talk on.

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Obesity.

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It's not like I lost those bad habits of lying.

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So I'll talk first about when I was obese.

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I was 315 pounds.

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I didn't just get hit with a fat stick and wake up that way.

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I now can admit I was a very large contributor to my obesity problem because who else would

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be?

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And I have a hot take on, yes, I do have some health issues that a lot of people contribute

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to being obese.

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But in my mind, they don't make you obese.

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They just add a little level of challenge to lose the weight.

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So complexity.

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Yeah.

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But they in no way make you and keep you obese.

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So when I was obese, I would definitely use the talk track of, well, I'm actually starving

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myself.

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Do you know I'm not actually eating enough food?

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That's why I'm fat.

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Oh my God.

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And I would go all day with like, I wouldn't have breakfast or lunch.

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I'd wake up, I'd sit on the computer, I would work, blah, blah, blah.

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And then come 3pm, I'd be starving.

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So I'd eat whole things of crackers.

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I would order takeout food.

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I'd have a burger and french fries.

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I'd eat an appetizer and of course a dessert.

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So sure, I wasn't eating on paper a lot of food because I was having a meal, but that

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meal was probably two to 3000 calories.

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And that's the thing, just because you're having one meal, if you're not tracking your

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calories, you don't realize that that one meal is actually way over the calorie count

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you're supposed to be having.

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I would obviously-

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You're cramming it in there.

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Yep.

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I'd binge because I wasn't eating enough and I was hungry.

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But I would lie to people.

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I'd use the talk track.

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I'm not eating enough.

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Nobody would see me eat because when we were together, I just wouldn't eat.

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But then I'd go home and order takeout or food or get food on the way home.

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I notoriously would eat in my car when I would drive on road trips to go see my parents and

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then hide all that and pretend I didn't.

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I never really made the best choices.

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I would make things at home, but I'd be like, well, I'm going to make nachos.

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I still do actually, still make nachos post-surgery.

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One of my favorite treats.

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But I would do a whole fucking bag of tortillas with like a half pound of cheese and then

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I would dip it in salsa and sour cream.

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I was just making not great choices.

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Oh, I don't feel like working out today or oh, you know what?

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I went to the personal trainer twice this week for an hour.

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Yay.

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And it's like, that's not doing fucking dick all at all because you're there for an hour

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and you did like six fucking pushups.

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Like no, I wouldn't really walk because well, I have this pain in my leg.

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Like my leg's kind of going numb.

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I just need to rest on the couch.

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It has nothing to do with my weight guys.

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Like I must have something wrong with me.

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And so I'd make lies about, it's got to be my PCOS or sorry, polycystic ovary syndrome,

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PCOS, which I call PCOS.

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It's my PCOS.

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That's why I'm fat.

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So I'll never be able to lose the weight anyway.

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Oh, it's this nerve damage that I have in my leg.

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Oh, it's this.

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It's like the lies and the lies and the lies.

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And I didn't lie because I'm a liar.

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I was in self denial, which a huge amount of obese people are, and I found, I don't

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even know what the word is I'm looking for, but basically I gas lit myself with Reddit,

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which would tell me it's not you.

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It is your PCOS.

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It's not you.

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It's society.

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There's nothing you can do about it.

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Yeah.

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You're up against it.

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Also, you don't need to lose weight.

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People need to love you more.

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Like we're going to do a whole podcast on fat acceptance community and buckle up motherfuckers

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because I am not their biggest fan because I do believe that they actually kept me obese

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for longer than I should have been.

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But obesity makes you a great fucking liar that you don't realize you are because it

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makes you a victim.

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You're really good at making yourself a huge victim, playing the victim card, and you're

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really good at believing that it's everything else except for you and that you literally

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are the epitome of health doing enough.

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And I don't mean that in a bad way because that's how I truly believed I was.

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And I didn't think that I was doing stuff that was that wrong.

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And it wasn't until now that I can reflect and go, that poor girl, that poor fucking

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girl needed somebody to just say, you're not doing yourself any favors.

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Let's get help.

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So that's why I get annoyed when the surgery team does not meet with you in person because

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that's what obesity was like for me.

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And I think that's, we talked about how in the pre-op, you work with the nurses, the

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dietitians, the social workers, and you have those conversations as to why did you get

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here?

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What brought you to this point?

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Why do you think you're at the point where you need surgery?

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And then it's almost as if you have surgery and that magically disappears.

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Like you said, those habits are still there.

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They take time and work to break.

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We didn't, I didn't get to where I was overnight.

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It took years of bad habits and health issues to get there.

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It's going to take me a long time to break those down and address them and work through

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them and to kind of just assume that you've had surgery and now everything magically changes.

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And that's something that we'll dig into too is the mental side of this.

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The physical element is obviously huge and a big part of this, but the mental aspect

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of this is so big.

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And I know, I mean, I have many of the same issues and history that you do in terms of

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the lying, the sneaking of the food, like eating in your car where nobody can see you.

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I would go out for lunch at work and go by myself instead of having lunch with people

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at work so that I could go get my fast food, go park in the corner of the parking lot,

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eat it in my car where nobody would see me.

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And the justification, right?

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Like the, I worked out today, I can have that whole cookie sheet of nachos or I can have

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that burger or the other flip side is, okay, so let's say I had that burger for lunch.

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I might as well also have the nachos for dinner because I already messed up my day with the

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burger.

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I'll start again tomorrow.

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Well, no, let's be realistic.

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We know that the willpower is not going to show up overnight to make tomorrow a better

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day.

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And I know like for me that the sneaking of the food was such a big thing as a child.

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I've been overweight since being a little kid.

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I was always the bigger kid from kindergarten all the way up.

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And so that was a huge constant for me was definitely the lying, the hiding, and the

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shame that's with that.

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Like you know what's wrong.

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You don't feel good about that.

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No, do I want to be sitting in my car eating McDonald's in the back corner of a parking

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lot by myself?

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No.

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But I did it multiple times.

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And so that's a big one.

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And I think too for me, we've talked about this a little bit, is cultural.

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So for me, in my cultural background, food is a big element of gatherings, love.

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You feed people.

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When you have people over, you have to have food.

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And it has to be an abundance of food.

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And even up until now, I'm so bad at that where if Devon will tell me someone's coming

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over, my first comment will be, well, I don't have any food to put out.

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I do the same thing.

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Yeah, that's immediately where my brain goes.

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And when we have family gatherings, the amount of food that my family puts out, you'd think

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we were inviting six families over.

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But everything culturally for us, food is a way that we share our love and that we show

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people we love them.

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And everything revolves around that.

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And I remember being little, and this is something I'm really working on with my kids right now.

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And I've had conversations with Devon about it is you don't leave the table till your

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plate is done.

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And I'm really working with my kids on, that's not a thing in our house anymore.

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If you're full, you listen to your body and you're full.

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It doesn't mean that you get to say I'm full and then five minutes later ask what's for

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dessert.

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If you're full, you're full.

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But I'm not going to force them to sit there and finish their plate.

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If their body is telling them, shut it down.

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So that's a big one for us because we were definitely the, well, you still have food

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on your plate.

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So sit your butt at the table.

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You sent us that plate.

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That plate, by the way, that you didn't get to pack.

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Yeah, because we don't waste food.

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You were given a plate full of food that you didn't get to choose.

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Yes.

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Because my grandparents came from wartime in Europe and emigrated to Canada.

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And you don't waste things because they didn't have money.

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They didn't have those things.

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So I am understanding where that's coming from, but that was definitely something in

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our household.

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And then the flip side of that is you would get told by members of your family that you

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were fat, but if you then didn't eat the second helping of food or you didn't have their dessert,

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you don't like my food?

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Yep.

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Well, no, you just told me I was fat.

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So so much of this, as I said just before, is the mind aspect of this and the mind shift

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that has to happen and the mental work that has to go into it.

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But yeah, we didn't get fat overnight.

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We did not.

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We didn't get obese overnight.

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So it's not going to happen.

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We're not going to fix those right away.

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It takes time.

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No, and that's why you need to have a therapist going into this.

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The therapists you'll get in the program, they're wonderful, but you are patient one

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of 900 and they spend an hour with you.

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You need a therapist.

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Even if you think you don't, therapy is not for just anxiety and depression and the usual

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things that people think of.

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I genuinely use my therapist to talk about bariatric surgery and dating, which is something

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that we'll talk about in another podcast.

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But literally all we've been working on is accepting my new body, accepting compliments

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on my body.

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How can I better track my macros because I'm getting lazy with that?

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Going through, how do you get rid of thoughts about regain that are keeping you up and scaring

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you?

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Are you ready to start dating?

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And like, let's pull that trigger and get going.

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So go find a therapist because like Steph said, there's a lot to unpack here.

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And that's exactly what, I wasn't obese overnight.

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I've been chubby and obese my whole life.

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I was super bullied for it in grade school.

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I lived in Nova Scotia where I wasn't.

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And then I moved to Windsor and that was just like the worst time of my life being in school

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in Windsor because kids would write, I would get Jenny Craig ads left on my chair.

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They would write 1-800-GOT-JENNY on a piece of paper and put it on my chair in school.

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I just grew a thick skin about it, became kind of funny and also would have beat the

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shit out of most of them and not going to toot my own horn.

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I've gone on to do a lot more than most of those motherfuckers.

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So fuck you assholes.

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But yeah, I was teased all the fucking time.

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I cried like every day at school.

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I wasn't even that big.

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When I look back, I go, are you fucking kidding me?

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But it was throughout the whole thing, right?

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So I would hide my food because I didn't want to eat in front of people because they would

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make fun of you for literally eating your goddamn lunch or I wouldn't be allowed to

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have a lunchable or chips if everyone else had chips because I'm fat.

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I shouldn't be having that.

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Oh, pizza day at school?

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Don't let them see you eat pizza, you fat sack of shit.

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So like I would hide my food.

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I would literally we always had dessert in my house.

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I would steal the dessert, put it in my bedroom so I could eat it later because I didn't want

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my family to see me.

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And I will preface this by saying my mother's an amazing person who got way better and had

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a lot of her own stigma and issues with weight herself.

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But she did not make it easy when I was growing up because she would call me fat girl.

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She would say things like no one's ever going to, you know, love you if you're fat.

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No one's going to find you attractive.

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Like she had her own issues with this.

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Don't get angry and riled up in the comments.

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She has come a considerable long way from there where she was very accepting of me at

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my biggest.

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She would compliment me on my style.

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Like she's she has learned the era of her ways.

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But you have to remember she was raised in a family of seven in Nova Scotia where her

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father died young and her mother had to fucking raise these kids herself.

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And back in the day you weren't allowed to be fat at all.

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And she kind of was struggling with her weight here and there.

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So it was not nearly as bad as I'm making it sound.

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But I would hide my food.

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I didn't want to eat.

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Being fat in the 90s was not easy for kids these days.

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So that, you know, obesity, you pick up a lot of things that you just can't shake and

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get over.

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You're your own worst critic.

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Probably you are super hard on yourself.

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You believe a lot of things like everyone's talking about me or making fun of me.

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But also the bigger you get, the harder it is to live in this world.

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I don't think, sorry, hot take.

482
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,280
I don't think the world has to change to accommodate my body size.

483
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,960
I do think like just stop watching people eat and judging them and all that jazz.

484
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,360
But do I think that everybody needs to retrofit hotels and airlines and everything to fit

485
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,360
me?

486
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,840
No, because at some point I have to get uncomfortable.

487
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,320
At some point I have to hit rock bottom.

488
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,000
And that's what led me to surgery.

489
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320
Like at one, like I was fine.

490
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,680
I didn't realize how big I was.

491
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,680
I was a size 3X and I didn't realize I had gotten that big.

492
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,520
And I was on a plane and I couldn't close the seatbelt.

493
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520
And this is terrible.

494
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,120
And please don't tell the fucking FAA about what I'm about to say.

495
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:47,360
I just put my jacket over my lap and pretended my seatbelt was buckled.

496
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,720
I was like, listen, if we start going down, I'm too fat to come out of this seat anyway.

497
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,720
So you're all fine.

498
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,720
I'm jammed in.

499
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,720
I'm going to be fine.

500
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,720
I'm not coming out of this fucking seat.

501
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,760
If anything, use me as an airbag person next to me.

502
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,280
I've done the same.

503
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Yeah.

504
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,280
I covered it.

505
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,280
I hid it.

506
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,160
And I realized, oh my God, I need a seatbelt extender.

507
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:09,800
And that's when I kind of realized I'm struggling to fit in a chair at a restaurant.

508
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,880
I'm having issues going down a hallway that's a bit narrow.

509
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,960
I probably can't use the bathroom on this airplane comfortably.

510
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,360
I remember the moment clearly.

511
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:23,520
It was like when your life flashes before your eyes, all of a sudden everything just

512
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,520
starts flashing.

513
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,560
And I realized, holy fucking shit, this is rock bottom.

514
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,160
You no longer fit into society.

515
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,160
And I don't actually think society needed to change all of those things to accommodate

516
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,240
my big body because you need a bit of shame in rock bottom.

517
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,880
So I said, this is it.

518
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,880
I'm done.

519
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Osempic was not a thing.

520
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,960
It was not a big enough thing back when I decided to do surgery.

521
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,080
But that's when I started Googling, I'm done.

522
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760
What can I do?

523
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,760
Bariatric surgery.

524
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760
I watched a ton of videos.

525
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,760
I researched it.

526
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,240
And that was my decision to have surgery.

527
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,240
I went to my doctor.

528
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,640
I said, hey, I need to have bariatric surgery.

529
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,640
What do you think?

530
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,920
And he was super open and welcoming.

531
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,680
And that's how I got down that route.

532
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480
But obesity is a motherfucker.

533
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,160
And we're going to talk about what our life was like being obese because it kind of explains

534
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,840
how we got to where we are.

535
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,680
We're going to do a whole podcast on our life as obese individuals because we hope to never

536
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,880
go back there again.

537
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200
But that's how I decided to have surgery was a very eye opening.

538
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,240
I'm putting my life in danger because I don't want to ask for a seatbelt extender because

539
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,640
I can't buckle the seatbelt.

540
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,400
And it was on a trip with my mom.

541
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,240
And I remember I'm taking her to Nova Scotia and I'm so excited to take her because we

542
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280
hadn't been in years.

543
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,840
And seeing her have to cram in beside me, like the fact that I could tell I was too

544
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,640
big to be on this plane.

545
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,840
And we took a photo and I remember thinking, I feel so bad for her having to sit next to

546
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,120
me.

547
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:54,960
And that was the day that I was like, no, I won't be the fat person on the airplane

548
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,920
anymore.

549
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,840
And in no way do I think was I mad and saying the airplane needs to change for me.

550
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Which I think is the fucking dumbest thing I've ever heard.

551
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,000
You needed to have those experiences to, like you said, be uncomfortable, to open your eyes

552
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,440
to say, oh my gosh, this is where it's gotten and I didn't realize it.

553
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,520
And I think for a lot of us, there's been, whether it's one moment or whether it's a

554
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,760
few moments that have built up to it.

555
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,040
And I know like I did the same thing.

556
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Whenever I would travel for work, I would always wear, or just travel in general, I

557
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,120
would always wear baggy sweatshirts so that I could cover the seatbelt with the sweatshirt.

558
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:39,680
I always sat in the window so that I could squish as far against the window.

559
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,040
The first time I have traveled, or sorry, the first time that I've used a bathroom on

560
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,720
an airplane was last June.

561
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,640
And I have been on airplanes so many times.

562
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,680
I've gone to Europe on an airplane.

563
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,440
I've traveled multiple times on three, four, five hour flights and never used a bathroom

564
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,480
because I was scared that I wasn't going to fit and I don't want people to see that.

565
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,520
So I would go pee like 12 times before getting on that flight.

566
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,440
I wouldn't drink on the flight because I'm not going to do it.

567
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,000
And I just, yeah, for the first time used airplane bathroom last June.

568
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,360
And then I too, like whenever I would fly with Devin, I would always insist on the window

569
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,880
seat and he would get so mad because he wants the window seat.

570
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,920
And I would kind of play it off as, oh, you know, I did all the planning for a trip.

571
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280
That's the benefit I get of doing that.

572
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,800
And then I finally explained to him the one day, I was like, honestly, Devin, I'm like,

573
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,000
I don't want my flab to be pushing on somebody else.

574
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,620
And if it's going to push on somebody, I'd rather it be you.

575
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,840
And I had to kind of blatantly put it out there for him.

576
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:51,440
But I 100% like the airplane is a horrible one going to a concert that I had waited years

577
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,440
to see.

578
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Years to see.

579
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,040
And the seats, we were up in the balcony and I just assumed they'd be the same seats as

580
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,920
anywhere else, but they were like old, old, it was an old theater in Toronto.

581
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,560
And they were old wooden seats with iron sides on them.

582
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:13,000
And I remember looking at it just going, oh dear Jesus, this is not, this is not going

583
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000
to be good.

584
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
I might not get out of this seat.

585
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Yeah.

586
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920
But I didn't want it to be obvious to the people I was with.

587
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:26,240
I crammed myself into that seat so hard and it was the most painful like two hours ever.

588
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Took away so much from this concert I had waited years to see.

589
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,860
And then I remember getting up to go to the washroom the next morning.

590
00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,880
And as I pulled my pajama pants down, the elastic like skimmed my legs and I was in

591
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,980
so much pain and I thought, what the hell?

592
00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:44,700
And I looked at my thighs and from like my pelvic bone to my knees was beyond black and

593
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,880
blue from being crammed in that seat.

594
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,360
And I always thought seriously, like this is what it is now.

595
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,660
And then right before surgery and making that decision, we had talked about maybe going

596
00:29:56,660 --> 00:29:59,160
to Disney World with the kids.

597
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,560
And I remember Googling and watching these videos and thinking, I'm not going to fit

598
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,260
on over half of these rides.

599
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:07,260
So what am I going to do?

600
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:13,100
Take my kids to Disney and sit there and hold jackets while they go on all these rides with

601
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,320
their dad.

602
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,200
Make all these memories and I'm just going to stand there.

603
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,240
And I was like, you know what?

604
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,200
No, that's not what this is supposed to be.

605
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,720
That's not why I have kids.

606
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
And I have PCOS as well.

607
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160
That was always an excuse.

608
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,760
I had thyroid issues.

609
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,080
That was an excuse.

610
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,260
I did fertility treatments for over a year.

611
00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:41,480
Did I 100% gain a bunch of weight from those medications?

612
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,340
You bet your ass I did.

613
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,300
But that was an excuse.

614
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:49,400
Did they all play a part in making weight loss more challenging?

615
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Absolutely.

616
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,400
For sure.

617
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Absolutely they did.

618
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,000
But were they going to block me 100% from losing weight?

619
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
No.

620
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,240
It meant a lot more work, a lot more stricter eating, a lot more changes that had to be

621
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,720
made.

622
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,160
But to use them as a constant excuse, it had to stop.

623
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,100
It was enough of the lying to myself, enough of lying to everybody.

624
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:21,000
And like we said, I just needed this extra tool to help, number one, physically force

625
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
me to change my eating.

626
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920
But then to also see that success.

627
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Because once you see the success, the momentum grows and it becomes addictive.

628
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:38,520
And you're finally seeing your work and your labor come out in a positive way.

629
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,120
And that's something that we never had before.

630
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,120
And that's what I needed.

631
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Yeah.

632
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280
And that's why it was hard before.

633
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,280
We in our minds thought we were actually doing a lot of work.

634
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,000
And I can actually look back now and go, bitch.

635
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,000
But like, oh, I went to the personal trainer twice a week and I had salad, which by the

636
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,560
way, salad, fuck salad, fuck takeout salad.

637
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,520
You know, most of the takeout salads have like 900 calories salad.

638
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Jesus Christ.

639
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,000
So that probably didn't fucking help me.

640
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,980
But like I went to the personal trainer twice this week and we did no cardio.

641
00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:13,080
But that means that like only weights is how you lose weight.

642
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
I have hot fucking opinions on that too.

643
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,200
No cardio.

644
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,360
And I ate like takeout salads every day.

645
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,960
And then three weeks would go by of this and I wouldn't have lost a single goddamn pound.

646
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,000
And so it was like just the worst.

647
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,760
This surgery lets me see this is what could be possible if you don't give up on this plan.

648
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,080
It basically front loads the weight loss kind of journey.

649
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,220
So you've lost the weight.

650
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:40,400
Now it's up to you to maintain that.

651
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
And a lot of people argue that maintaining is much easier.

652
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Like fitness gurus and a lot of experts and a lot of trainers will say, you know, you

653
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,280
shouldn't be failing in the maintenance, but a lot of you are because you go back to your

654
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,280
old habits.

655
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
But in theory, maintenance should be easier.

656
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,320
And so I think that's where the surgery was born was front load the weight loss and then

657
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480
make them maintain the weight loss.

658
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,640
And now that my body needs less food and less and I can move more, you need to exercise

659
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080
every day, not twice a fucking week.

660
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,640
You need to not be eating thousand calorie salaries from fucking DoorDash.

661
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160
You need to like maintain it.

662
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,720
And I find it's so much easier now.

663
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Easier to move, easier to breathe.

664
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Yeah, but build that success quickly.

665
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
You need to see the success.

666
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Get the momentum going.

667
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,920
And I think because physically I cannot eat what I will say want to eat or what I used

668
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:39,260
to eating, it frees up more of my time and energy and effort into focusing on building

669
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:43,240
the new habits, getting my hydration and moving my body.

670
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Because I'm not, I'm number one, I'm not spending so much time eating.

671
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,160
I'm not constantly thinking about all the meals I'm going to have today, planning out

672
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,240
how I'm going to hide that McDonald's in my car.

673
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:02,920
It's just freed up so much mental capacity and time for me to focus on the things that

674
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,840
are then going to help me once I get to maintenance phase because I've built those habits already

675
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,560
that I don't have to think about them.

676
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,160
I've built those routines and I'm used to drinking my liter to liter and a half of water.

677
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,840
All of those things are already, that foundation has been built so that the maintenance can

678
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,400
be easier.

679
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,640
And as you said, that first 12 months of surgery, you're going to lose weight, most legs.

680
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:33,400
There are some people who don't, but the surgeon at my follow-up, she said, the first 12 months

681
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,440
is our gift to you.

682
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Enjoy it, leverage it, take advantage of it.

683
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Once those 12 months is over, the work is on you girlfriend.

684
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:52,520
And so that's why I needed this tool to help put that physical block in place, but then

685
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:58,480
help take some of that weight off of my shoulders and let me focus on what I need to focus on

686
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,480
successfully.

687
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,760
And we'll talk about that in another podcast.

688
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,320
We'll go through, because I'm two years post-op and Steph's two months, we're going to do

689
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,520
a whole thing about what she's focused on and what I'm focused on.

690
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,920
And I can actually talk to all of you about what it's like to hit the one-year mark and

691
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,240
what they mean by our gift to you is the first year, and then the hard work kicks in, because

692
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,240
it's true.

693
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,800
So we'll do that in another podcast episode, but you nailed it, Steph.

694
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,280
I think the best way to wrap this episode up is where are we now?

695
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,880
What does life look like for us?

696
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,480
Because we talked about a lot of heavy shit and some depressing shit, but where are we

697
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,480
now?

698
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,640
And then why did we start this podcast?

699
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,560
I think it's a great way to wrap things up for our very first episode.

700
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:44,760
So do you want to start with where are you now and why you think we started the podcast?

701
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,760
Yeah.

702
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:53,840
So as I've said, about 10 weeks post-op, down 51.3 pounds as of this morning.

703
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,400
So for me, a lot of it right now is just, as I said, focus on building my habits.

704
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,800
I was a horrible water drinker before, so for me, water is a big one, but really just

705
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,220
still 10 weeks out working on the habits.

706
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:13,280
Getting my protein in, moving my body, getting my hydration in, tracking my food, and just

707
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,180
really trying to make things a daily lifestyle change, part of my day, part of my routine,

708
00:36:19,180 --> 00:36:20,840
and working on not overthinking things.

709
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,440
So that's a big thing for me is just still getting into the routine, getting into the

710
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,120
habit and every day is, there's challenges every day.

711
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,840
There's learning curves every day.

712
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,320
I have to keep reminding myself, you're only 10 weeks out.

713
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,400
I think because knock on wood, things have been so smooth for me, I keep forgetting that

714
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,800
it's only been 10 weeks.

715
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,320
And there's days when I think, Steph, you're better than this, or Steph, you should be

716
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,680
better at that by now.

717
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,880
And then I go, oh shit, it's only 10 weeks.

718
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Listen, it doesn't get better two years because I say the same shit to myself.

719
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Right?

720
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,400
So I think that's a big thing for me.

721
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,560
But in terms of the podcast, obviously we've talked about Canadian versus American differences

722
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,080
and helping to bridge some of that gap and get some more Canadian content out there.

723
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:14,240
But I think a lot of it for me is just having more resources out there and really working

724
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:20,320
to knock down a lot of the stigma around this surgery.

725
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,080
There's a lot of outdated information.

726
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
There's a lot of misinformation.

727
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,140
There's a lot of people who still think this is a walk in the park or you took the easy

728
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:29,480
way out.

729
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:35,720
And for me, when I told a lot of people about this surgery, I didn't say when I told a lot

730
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:40,480
of people, but when I started having conversations with my family, I'll be honest, the reception

731
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,800
from them was not overly positive.

732
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,360
And a lot of that was because of the stigmas.

733
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,920
But I think a lot of it too is it's such a taboo topic still.

734
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:59,240
And I know personally, growing up, I didn't share a lot with my family, with my husband,

735
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:04,720
with my friends about what it's like to be obese on a daily basis.

736
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:10,520
And we will dig into this because it's a huge topic, but just how much it affects your day

737
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,240
to day physical and mental life and the toll it takes on you.

738
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:21,280
And I think there's a lot of people in that situation who feel very alone, who I think

739
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,420
it's important for them to know they're not alone.

740
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:26,140
It is normal to feel like this.

741
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:32,960
And I know for me, as I said, I didn't share a lot of this up until recently.

742
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040
And even I'm sure my family is going to listen to this and go, what?

743
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Oh, my mom's probably a little offended.

744
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,400
They're going to be, I think, shocked to hear some of what has been going on personally

745
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,640
and in my head over the last many years.

746
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:53,320
So I think just knocking down a lot of those walls, breaking down a lot of those stereotypes

747
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,520
and just acting as a resource for people because, like I kind of mentioned before, I did fertility

748
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,960
treatments for years.

749
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Both of my girls are through open adoption.

750
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:11,200
And going through both of those, I had such a little amount of people to turn to because

751
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,240
fertility treatments was taboo.

752
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,480
Nobody talked about it.

753
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,940
Had miscarriages.

754
00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:17,380
Nobody talked about that.

755
00:39:17,380 --> 00:39:22,000
And so going through that alone was horrible.

756
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,480
There was nobody to talk to.

757
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880
Nobody to turn to 100%.

758
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
And going through adoption, again, we didn't have a lot of resources there too.

759
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,160
So if we, in my mind, if we can help even just a few people, number one, know they're

760
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,400
not alone.

761
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,720
Number two, dealing with a lot of those issues that come with obesity and making them feel

762
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:47,080
that there is support out there for them and that it is okay to feel that way.

763
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,640
And then number three, just acting as a bridge or acting as another resource to help bridge

764
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,080
that gap between US and Canadian content.

765
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,280
For me, those are my big reasons as to why.

766
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,280
I was like, you know what?

767
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,280
We need to do this.

768
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,240
We need to get this information out there.

769
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,240
Absolutely.

770
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:08,920
And I think, yeah, I think you nailed a lot of the reasons that I think we did start this

771
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,920
and do it.

772
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480
And there's a lot to dig into that we can talk about there that we will.

773
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,680
So don't worry.

774
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,440
All of it will be covered in later episodes.

775
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,160
But that was great.

776
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Where am I now?

777
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,600
I'm two years, almost two years post-op.

778
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,760
I still ask all the same questions Steph asks.

779
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,040
So you know, surprise, you still kind of ask yourself, am I doing enough?

780
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,040
Am I not doing enough?

781
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,480
You constantly feel like you're just not doing maybe what you should be doing.

782
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,280
And you need to really focus on celebrating the wins a lot more, but I'm getting better

783
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,280
at it.

784
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,640
So I'm almost two years post-op.

785
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,320
I've lost 150 pounds.

786
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,800
I still have more I want to lose.

787
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,320
I'm doing it in a very healthy and thoughtful way.

788
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,960
It does get much slower after your first year.

789
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,260
So I've actually been consistently losing, which is exciting.

790
00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:55,680
And I'm kind of exactly where I want to be.

791
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,280
I am now a runner.

792
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200
So I ran my first 5k in July.

793
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,280
I'm doing a 10k in five weeks in Disney.

794
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,440
And then I'll be running my first half marathon in October.

795
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,360
All of that is fucking insane to say because I could barely take the garbage out.

796
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,100
I would get winded walking through Ikea and now I'm a fucking runner.

797
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,600
So I love it too.

798
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,280
I know that some people are like, exercise.

799
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Yeah, but when like your body's not 300 fucking pounds, running is fucking fun.

800
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,520
It sucks.

801
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,520
It sucks.

802
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Like I'm miserable as fuck at two kilometers.

803
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,880
I'm like, why are you doing this?

804
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,880
This is terrible.

805
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,880
Quit.

806
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Fuck.

807
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,280
But then you finish a run and you're like, oh my God, this is fucking awesome.

808
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,020
Like there's just, I like competition.

809
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:39,240
There's something about it I love.

810
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:43,800
So it's insane to me to say that like I'm now a runner, but I'm really into meal prepping,

811
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,800
health and fitness.

812
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,560
I love talking about bariatric surgery.

813
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,080
I just want to talk about it all the time and help people and you know, make it less

814
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,080
stigmatized.

815
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,340
But yeah, I'm in a great place two years post-op.

816
00:41:54,340 --> 00:41:58,960
I'm hoping to hit my one weight goal by my second year surgery date.

817
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,200
And I'm actually very on track to do that.

818
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,400
And then I have another goal that I want to hit by the end of August.

819
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,600
And I think realistically, I will be on that life for me two years post-op.

820
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,760
It is not about spending six hours in the gym and super restricting myself.

821
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,680
I actually eat between 1300 and 1500 calories.

822
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,080
I don't think there's anything to be proud about to say that you eat less than a thousand

823
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,140
calories five years out.

824
00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:25,200
There is no metal for eating less than others.

825
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,600
That's called an eating disorder.

826
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,540
And we will talk about that later on how this community is full of eating disorders disguised

827
00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:32,760
as healthy eating.

828
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,500
But I comfortably eat 1300 to 1500 depending on the level of running.

829
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:42,200
If I'm running a 7 to 8K that day, I'm probably closer to 1500.

830
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,120
And I'm still consistently losing weight on that.

831
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,520
My goal is I will not super cut and restrict my calories and I will not be at the gym six

832
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
hours a day just to hit a weight loss goal.

833
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,600
I want to hit my goals in a very measurable, meaningful way so that I enjoy my life and

834
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,040
that my life is not all focused on you need only 2000 calories and you better be working

835
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,040
out all the time.

836
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,680
So right now my life is amazing.

837
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,560
My meal prepping is great.

838
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,360
I love the level of exercise I'm doing and I'm still consistently losing weight and losing

839
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,440
weight and losing weight.

840
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,240
So yeah, realistically things are really good right now.

841
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,840
I still have a lot that I struggle with and I can't wait to take you all through what

842
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,620
two years looks like because now the fear is about regain and boy, she loud and she

843
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,200
in my voice.

844
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,160
But we started this because I personally found that the communities were toxic as fuck.

845
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,240
I found that there was a lot of misinformation and there was a lot of influencers disguising

846
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,480
themselves as bariatric people.

847
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:44,240
There's a lot of nutritionists lying about being smart at what they do and they're really

848
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,760
just trying to starve you and get you onto unhealthy dieting habits.

849
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,600
But the Facebook groups, the Reddit groups, my nurse and my clinic said you better get

850
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,600
the fuck out of those communities now.

851
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,460
They said overwhelmingly it's people who have not had surgery, people who failed at surgery

852
00:43:57,460 --> 00:44:01,920
trying to get you to fail at surgery because one thing you'll learn after this is there

853
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,940
are going to be people that do not like that you're bettering yourself and so they're trying

854
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:08,420
to make you as miserable as they are.

855
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:11,640
And so they'll gaslight you, they'll try to bring you down.

856
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,080
But that was a big huge thing for me where I was like there's no fucking solid information

857
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,360
and I'm tired of this nonsense toxic bullshit.

858
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,520
Tired of celebrating eating disorders and I'm tired of people just doing bad things

859
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,040
and then calling it real.

860
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Oh man, I love that you had McDonald's two weeks post-op.

861
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,680
You're so real.

862
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,680
You're so real.

863
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920
No, she's a fucking idiot.

864
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
You're breaking the rules and you're setting yourself up to fail.

865
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,080
You shouldn't be drinking six pops, eating Doritos, going to McDonald's and then ordering

866
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,540
Chinese food and calling it real.

867
00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:43,940
You will not succeed in this surgery.

868
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:48,080
Do not label bad toxic behavior as thanks for being real.

869
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Get off the internet and stop looking for justification to do bad things.

870
00:44:52,440 --> 00:45:01,080
So I'm hoping that we can be your harsh but loving Canadian besties that maybe tell you

871
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,640
straight up I don't know if that's the best idea.

872
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,720
And here's why.

873
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:10,920
But we just hope to bring you information that's solid from reputable sources like our

874
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,840
surgeons and from like actual accredited places, not just made up bullshit and to just be again

875
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,720
your Canadian BFFs that are just here to shoot the shit and keep it raw and real.

876
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,880
And that's why we made this podcast.

877
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,200
I'm excited because we're going to have a lot of great things to talk about.

878
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,840
They won't be as long as this episode.

879
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,160
This is the inaugural episode, so bear with us.

880
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,920
These will all get shorter, but you'll still get great topics like we're going to cover

881
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:41,960
shitty influencers and Hannah's problem with toxic communities, dating, macros, what it

882
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,040
was like for us to be obese, the fat acceptance community, and why I truly believe that they

883
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,760
are keeping people obese.

884
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,120
We'll talk about things like keto and dieting.

885
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,480
We'll talk about relationships.

886
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,320
So obviously I'm single and dating and trying to find me a husband, but Steph can relate

887
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,640
to what it's like to go through this with young children and a husband.

888
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,040
We'll talk about some of the statistics around that too, where there's a lot of people whose

889
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,440
relationships end after bariatric surgery, not just with husbands or wives, but with

890
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,120
parents and friends and family members.

891
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,480
And we'll talk about why that's not necessarily always a bad thing.

892
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,740
And we'll also do an episode on stigma and shame and why we really need to change the

893
00:46:21,740 --> 00:46:25,640
conversation on bariatric surgery and tell people who tell us it's the easy way out to

894
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,580
go fuck themselves in the most polite way possible.

895
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:33,160
And that's all the great shit you can expect coming up.

896
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,260
If you don't like the swearing, well, tough titties as they say, because I can't not

897
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:39,260
swear.

898
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:40,800
Cause we're keeping it real.

899
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,840
We're keeping it fucking raw and real.

900
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Now Steph, are we going to agree on everything we talk about on this podcast?

901
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Lord no.

902
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Christ no.

903
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Christ no.

904
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,640
And I think that's one of the important things out there though is this journey is different

905
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,640
for everybody.

906
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Yes.

907
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,500
The journey leading up to surgery is different for everybody.

908
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:00,680
We are different people.

909
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,360
We have different past, different experiences with things, different histories, different

910
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,360
personalities.

911
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,560
And we have different views on things and that's okay.

912
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Is one wrong and one right?

913
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,920
No.

914
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,920
You're allowed to have your different thoughts.

915
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,400
I mean, I'm right all the time.

916
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,400
No.

917
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Obviously not.

918
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,400
For real.

919
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,960
But that's, that's okay.

920
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,360
And there are even some of the things we've touched upon today, Hannah and I already know

921
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,720
once that topic hits, look out, look out because we have already not agreed on things in the

922
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:28,720
past.

923
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,320
And that's just part of, I think the fun of this.

924
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,000
And it is, it's important to hear other people's opinions and get that rounded view of things.

925
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,240
So again, be prepared.

926
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:39,240
Yeah.

927
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,240
Just be prepared.

928
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:41,600
It's going to be fun, but be prepared.

929
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,380
It's going to be funny as balls guys.

930
00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:46,960
So follow along on social because we're going to obviously post our episodes, but so much

931
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,640
more like we're going to post recipes that we think are total horse shit that you shouldn't

932
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,200
eat because they taste like garbage.

933
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,040
We're going to post some what we eat in a day, but we're actually going to show you

934
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,080
what we ate of that, what we eat in a day, not just here's a photo of a pretty breakfast.

935
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,760
You guess if I ate it or not.

936
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,080
We're going to post our exercise things too, so that you can see what a two year post-op

937
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,560
exercise routine looks like, what a two month post-op and just more about like who we are.

938
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,480
There's a lot more to us than bariatric surgery.

939
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,680
I'm a potter, I'm a runner.

940
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000
I play video games all the goddamn time.

941
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,600
I have a dog that's annoying as hell, but I love the crap out of them.

942
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,360
Steph has children and a really fucking adorable dog and does a ton of shit.

943
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080
He's already busted through the door twice.

944
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,280
I'm surprised we haven't heard of him.

945
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,040
I'm surprised Bo hasn't barked either because he's huffing and puffing over here.

946
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Just our life and how we work this into our everyday life and what that looks like for

947
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,280
us because we still do have a life and that's an important part of this is how do we make

948
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,280
it work?

949
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,280
Exactly.

950
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,720
There will be the bariatric stuff, but there's also going to be just the fun, shoot the shit

951
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:49,320
everyday life stuff.

952
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,240
I can't wait for you guys to listen to this.

953
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,760
Give us your feedback as Hannah said.

954
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This one's a little long because we want to make sure that we're giving everybody an idea

955
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of what's coming and what's out there.

956
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Give us your feedback if there's things that you want to hear, things you didn't like.

957
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,440
Please let us know.

958
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,800
We're just getting started here.

959
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,800
We're newbies here.

960
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Topics you want us to cover.

961
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,800
We want to make sure that this is what you want.

962
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Yeah.

963
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,800
What do you want to hear?

964
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,800
What should we cover?

965
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,800
Follow along on social.

966
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,800
Thank you for supporting our first episode.

967
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,840
These are going to get better and better as we go, but we just appreciate you all.

968
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,920
We hope to build a really good community, so start those conversations.

969
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,240
Be polite, be respectful, but disagree.

970
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,440
That's the big thing we agree on.

971
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,080
You don't have to all get along and agree, but you better be fucking respectful of people.

972
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,440
We can't wait to see you next week.

973
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120
We're going to drop an episode every week.

974
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This is our first one.

975
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Our very next episode is going to be my favorite topic, influencers in the space.

976
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We're going to talk about everything from eating disorders to why some of them are shit

977
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to why nobody shares macros and Hannah loses her fucking mind, but it's going to be a great

978
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one next week about influencers in the space, so follow along.

979
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Thank you for tagging along.

980
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,560
Steph, thanks for recording the first episode with me.

981
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Thanks, Hannah.

982
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,560
This is awesome.

983
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,560
I can't wait.

984
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,560
I cannot wait.

985
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Can't wait to see you at the next one, Steph.

986
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Thank you.

987
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All right.

988
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See everybody later.

989
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Bye, guys.

990
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Have a good week.

991
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,560
Drink your protein.

992
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,560
All right.

993
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Bye, everybody.

994
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Thanks for watching.