Ep 22: Road Snacks & Real Talk: Traveling After Bariatric Surgery

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Hey Steph. Hello. Welcome back to another episode

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of Bariatric Banter Podcast. We are back. We

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are back after a much needed rest and recovery

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and vacation. We are finally back with episode

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22, I think. Oh my gosh. I know we had a little

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bit of a brief hiatus because life was lifing.

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As you guys saw on our Instagram, we both had

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big vacations coming up and then there was just

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a lot going on with work and I started a new

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job and oh my goodness, just a million things.

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Yeah. There's so much going on between working

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vacations and kids sports and that fun stuff.

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So this is episode 22. We did do a special matinee

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episode, but I'm not going to count it where

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we talked about comfort food and Steph did a

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really great live. And I actually think we're

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going to try to do some more of those, not in

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place of the podcast, but just in general, just

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be live and be chatting on Instagram and answering

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some great questions and just, yeah, having some

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great conversations. I love it. I love it. So

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if you have topics, let us know. If you want

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to send live, shoot it our way and we will make

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a list. We will. We've got a list already going,

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but we'll add more to said list. But no, thanks

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everybody. You were super supportive of our vacation

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and our time off and oh my goodness, the comments

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and the messages and. Yeah. Just, we loved seeing

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all of it and the support and the love. And so

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we decided we actually are going to do a whole

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episode on vacation. Now we're not here to be

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like, let's brag about what we got to do, but

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we were both talking during our entire vacations

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about not having a scale and, oh, I ate and fell

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off the wagon. And I don't know if I'm going

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to exercise. Like we, between Steph and I had

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so much to talk about, about our vacations that

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I was like. hey, maybe we should, you know, maybe

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we should chat about it. It was very different.

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It was a very different experience. And we had

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a lot of concerns. But like you said, like a

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lot of things popped up like, oh, my gosh, I'm

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not going to have this. I'm not going to have

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this. This is going to be different. How am I

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going to manage this? It was just a very different

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experience in a positive way, at least for me

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at the end of the day. But it was just a different

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mindset for this vacation. Exactly. Yeah. So

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I think, as I said, in a positive way, um, and

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just how your entire vacation centers around

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different things and your thought processes are

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different. And I think even though for me, at

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least, and I know like you've, you have been

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out East before, this wasn't like we were going

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to somewhere new for either of us, but it felt

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like a very different experience all around.

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It was different. And so like, yes, I've been

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out east before. I actually did go to Nova Scotia

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like four months after surgery because it was

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my aunt's birthday. And I was like, fuck it,

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we'll be fine. And I remember being there. And

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I was living on tuna. She was like, what can

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I make you? And what can I buy? And I was like,

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don't buy anything. And she's like, no, it's

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a very East coast thing to be like, don't be

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foolish. I'm going to buy you things. And I was

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like, I'm going to be very honest with you. I

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will be eating nothing. And so I remember going

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to Sobeys and being like, I'll have 18 cans of

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tuna. yeah thank you and a bunch of dill pickles

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and people laughing and I was like oh and cheese

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like just make sure there's cut up cheese because

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I'm not going to eat enough but I'm going to

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be hungry every hour and I just like that trip

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was so funny when I look back on it now and I'm

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like holy shit I just ate fucking cubed cheese

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for I mean she's great and then like protein

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shakes like premier protein drinking it like

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it was water but I felt great and it was awesome

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but it was a very different trip like that one

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was four days very quick shopping home and away

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we go. Now this time, this time I drove to Nova

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Scotia because I had the dog to take. I won't

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say his name cause he'll wake up and come running

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over here. But I had, I had to take him with

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me. I didn't have to, but I wanted him to see

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the ocean and blah, blah, blah. So my best friend

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and I loaded up the car and it was three days

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to get there and three days to get home. So it

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was like over 2 ,200 miles a day. that I was

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driving sorry that I drove total so yeah from

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here to Ottawa from Ottawa to New Brunswick New

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Brunswick to the cottage in Nova Scotia so that

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was different because I have not done a road

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trip of that magnitude yet and then yeah and

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then I was on my own also so I was at the cottage

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I could buy groceries I could do different things

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I'm two years post -op um yeah it's not a cruise

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ship where I could just like go and get something

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created so there were interesting challenges

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and I will say like some very bad habits that

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I'm remedying, but on both sides. It's also vacation,

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right? Like you do have to, we've talked about

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this before, like we still have to enjoy your

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life and do fun things and not be super hard

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on yourself all the time. And I think the important

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thing is like when we talked after vacation was

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you said like, I know I had this, I had this,

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I had this, but the difference now is you can

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say it. You can own it and you can move on from

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it. You're not going to sit there and beat yourself

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up about it. You're not going to dwell about

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it. You're not going to now say, OK, well, for

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the next day, I'm not going to eat anything because

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I blew my week yesterday. It's just as our friend

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Denise says, bless and release and move on. And

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I think that's a big thing, too, is your whole

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mindset has shifted now when you look at things

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like that. And it's OK to have some of this and

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to have fun and to enjoy your vacation. But.

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then the fact that you can easily get back on

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track compared to before, I think is an important

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thing. Yes. And that's the thing, like, were

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the bad habits necessarily what I ate? No, like

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there was there was some of that. But the other

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bad habits were also just that I wasn't eating

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enough. So there were definitely days where I

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was like, whatever, I'm so swept up in vacation

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or what's going on. And then it's like, oh, you

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can't. you can't be going that long without having

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something. So I think the driving was, were the

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worst cases of that were like, you're just in

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the zone. Let's go and get distracted. You just

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want to push through and plow through. And then

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by the time you get there, you're like, Oh. I'm

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not feeling great. Steaks were made. Yeah. And

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it's like, I probably should have had something

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to eat. This is not great. So on the way home,

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it very much was like, I don't give a fuck. Just

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eat what you want to eat and we'll fix this when

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we get home. But no more of this, just like white

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knuckle in it, driving and not eating anything.

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So you can't live on caffeine and nothing. So

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that was like, and I did pack a whole cooler

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that I barely touched too. So I think that's

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the other thing is you're definitely going to

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over. pack and over prepare for these trips and

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then you're going to end up getting there and

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not needing any of that even for so we had a

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four -hour airplane ride and I packed for the

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kids I bought actually they were so handy I bought

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I hate the term but I think people call them

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like snackle boxes I bought these like divided

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snack containers for each girl on the trip and

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then I bought a third one for like me and Devin

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basically and I packed theirs and I packed some

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for myself And I made sure that like in my knapsack,

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I had edamame beans and I had protein bars and

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I had all the things definitely packed too much.

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I think I was trying to be like overly prepared

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and then realizing once I got on the plane being

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like, Steph, it's four hours. You only eat every

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two hours anyway. Like you don't you don't need

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this. You're going to be fine. The girls plowed

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through their snacks, which is totally cool.

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But even when we would go and do our adventures

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for the day, like we would go to our hikes and

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go to our. our sightseeing and stuff, always

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made sure that in my bag, I had the protein bars,

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the edamame beans. Devin always packed like some

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pepperoni sticks and some cheese and just always

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made sure that we had protein heavy snacks with

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us and water. We each had a big water bottle.

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But I think that. So that was key. And again,

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the past, I wouldn't have packed that. It would

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have been like, oh, we'll just stop and get something.

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Oh, we'll just go to a restaurant or we'll just

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go here. So that was a big shift for us was packing

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our own food, making sure we had healthy options

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with us and not always focusing everything around

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what restaurants are we going to go to, which

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was a big shift. Exactly. And I think that was

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the different thing, too. And like I did tell

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my friend, hey, if there's. If there's places

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you want to go eat, we can. But like the name

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of this vacation is sit at the cottage and do

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nothing. And we'll just buy food. And if we eat

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it, we eat it. And that's the other thing about

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like where I was specifically, there was no delivery.

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So I was in a very rural part of Nova Scotia.

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And if you wanted anything, it was a 32 minute

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drive one way to get into town. So an hour if

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you want anything. So that also kind of makes

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you reframe or reframe from like, I don't need

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it. Don't want it. Don't need to have it. This

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is crap. It's like my everyday where I live.

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We have to go half an hour to get anywhere. Yeah,

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that made me realize how much I love living in

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a city. But yeah, so that was something to lean

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into where I was like, we will need to go grocery

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shopping because I can't. Yay, I'm not going

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to live on frozen food. There was a little gas

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station convenience store, LVR, which was great,

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by the way. I love that they have that for people

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camping and cottaging. but they only had frozen

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food. So we did go there the first day because

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like we had just white knuckled it in. I was

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starving. And I was like, if we don't get real

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food, I am going to lose one of the two. And

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so we got there and I was like, oh, so I can't

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eat any of this. And she was like, oh, my friend's

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like, oh. And I was like, this is frozen mozzarella

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sticks, frozen pizza, like just frozen stuff

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that. I was like, oh, whatever, I'll just do

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it. And then I was like, 600 calories for a slice

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of frozen pizza. I was like, I can't fucking

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do this. So we ended up, there's a food truck

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that actually opened and it's getting a ton of

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awards and praise. And they had real food. So

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I got some fish and chips, which was awesome.

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Like East Coast, real local fish and chips, which

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was great. But I said, we have to go to a grocery

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store tomorrow. Like I'm going to need to get

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stuff. So I picked up yogurt, bread, eggs, deli

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meat. I got a bunch of stuff, things that I could

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bake and make in the oven, like just just a bunch

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of stuff for the week. So I was like, I don't

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know if we're eating at relatives houses or if

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we're going out while we're in town or what's

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happening. But I got to have food that's not

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junk food. And then there was junk food like

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we are on vacation. So, you know, there was smart

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pop, right? Like my favorite popcorn. Can't help

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it. Because like we were going to want it. And

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then cinnamon buns. I got a real thing with cinnamon

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buns. I can't explain it, but I fucking love

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them. And I had to have them. There were. Right.

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And it's vacation. We did the same when we landed.

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We landed in Calgary. We hit up the zoo to let

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the girls run around for a bit. They'd just been

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on the plane for a long time. And then as soon

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as we got into town, we went grocery shopping.

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And same thing because we stay in an Airbnb when

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we go there. So we have a full kitchen, fridge,

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the whole bit. So we went grocery shopping. We

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grabbed all of the necessities because we knew

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we would go out here and there. And we knew like

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we were there for my birthday and my daughter's

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birthday. So we knew there'd be a birthday dinner

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out. And of course, you're going to hit up some

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things. But we wanted to have as much as many

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options as we could for. healthier food, also

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cheaper than going out constantly. And we knew

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that in the past when just Devin and I had gone,

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our trip revolved very much around restaurants,

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patio hopping, breweries. That was the big focus

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of our trip was, yeah, we're going to go see

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the mountains, but we're going to sit on patios

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and look at the mountains and we're going to

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go to this happy hour for tacos and all of that

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kind of stuff. Whereas this time, we knew we

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were going to be spending more of our time. Out

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and about and hiking and in the mountains and

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sightseeing. So when you're doing a two hour

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hike, you're not stopping on a patio. So we had

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to also have our food, right? So it was a whole

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different, a whole different trip. And it was

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funny because we had been out there twice before

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and had not experienced. nearly anything other

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than the downtown. We did like open up the gondola,

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whatever. But this time we were like in nature,

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in the mountains, experiencing things totally

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differently than last time. And it made for a

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totally different trip, even though it was to

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the same location that we had been twice before.

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It was as if we had never been. And it was awesome.

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Wow. And that's like, that's exciting though.

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Like it, it's very, very cool. Right. Very cool

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to be able to kind of, yeah, see this, see what

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it's like. Yeah. And like, so that's the same

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with me is, okay, this was different in a different

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way. So I had all these big plans and I was actually

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going to run a race. Oh my God. This is like.

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Hannah from December was a fucking lunatic. So

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I had all these plans that I was going to run

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this big race because it was in my hometown.

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And how cool is that? But here's the thing. The

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wedding was Saturday and the race was Sunday.

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So like my goal was I'm going to drive from the

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cottage to Halifax, go hang out and do the whole

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wedding thing, leave the wedding around 839,

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drive back to Halifax, sleep, get up in the morning

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and go run this like 8 a .m. race and like then

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hit the road and start driving home after. And

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it's totally going to be fine. Hannah that got

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to Nova Scotia was immediately like. Fuck that

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shit. So before we left, I realized. Why did

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I think this was a good idea? I was like, oh,

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so it's like a two hour drive from the cottage

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to Halifax. Cool. If traffic's good, which is

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going to be like the very end of your vacation

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where you've already driven three days to get

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there. Right. And then you have to go to a wedding

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and you're going to be you're not going to leave

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the wedding on time because you're going to be

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having a good time. And then you have to leave

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the wedding and drive two hours home. Sure. And

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then. sleep and then get up and drive 35 minutes

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into town to go run a race the next morning and

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the more I thought about it the more I was like

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oh I'm not doing this this is not it's not happening

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and so this vacation was a bit different because

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I had all these big giant grandiose plans that

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this is what I was going to do and I was going

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to do this I was going to do that I was going

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to do blah blah blah blah blah and then I realized

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like oh you know what I really genuinely need

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to do nothing just chill I need to relax. So,

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because I think there's this notion of being

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a bariatric patient where it's like, I have to

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do all of the running around. I have to, yeah,

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I have to do all of this. I have to be active.

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Here we go. Or people are going to judge me.

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And this vacation made me kind of sit down and

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go, no, I don't. No, I actually, I actually don't.

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No, I actually don't need to. I can just. relax

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yeah and there's nothing better than being able

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to be like oh so I did walk like I walked the

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dog I went to the beach I had a good time but

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I in no way needed to be racing back and forth

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and running and doing a million things and for

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the first time I think in a really long time

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I had an actual vacation where I did nothing.

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Cause I think even when I was obese, I was like,

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well, I have to be doing something. I can't just

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be sitting here and there's nothing I can do

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except go shopping or go into town. Like I don't

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want to go swimming and I don't want to go hiking.

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And, um, and it felt almost like I was limited

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in what I could do versus I made the conscious

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choice to be like, no man, let's sit on the porch

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and play fucking cribbage for like six hours.

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Let's just play cribbage. So great. I did some

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thrifting and some shopping and it was kind of

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really cool to be buying clothes. And I did a

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big non -scale victory this vacation, which I

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think was like giving me anxiety leading up to

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it. But because there was definitely a point

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where I was like, I'm too tired. I'm going to

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take a nap and just I'll fall asleep and miss

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the wedding. And my friend's like, hey. no shut

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the fuck up like you're going and I was like

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oh it's just like my hair doesn't look good and

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the dress is bad and she's like okay so you're

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just freaking out about having your arms out

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and I was like yes hundred percent so yeah there

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was a moment where I was like I can't do this

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um but I put the fucking dress on and now I did

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have a jacket because the ceremony was outside

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and I had a jacket because it was on the water

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and Nova Scotia's cold yeah then I put the jacket

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off and I had a sleeveless dress on and my arms

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were out um and I yeah I I didn't care. And I

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didn't think about it once. I didn't think about

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them once I got there. No, just like. It's so

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crazy. Yeah, but I can't even think of the word.

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Just so freeing. Like it's so freeing to just

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not. Not care. And to not have that thought constantly

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in your head. And the whole time be thinking,

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oh my God, oh my God, my arms, my arms, my arms.

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Who's looking? Who sees this? What is going on?

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Are they like. To just be able to sit back and

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not care and not worry about it and not have

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it eating in the back of your brain is so freeing.

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And something that most, not necessarily most

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people, but a lot of people, that's just normal

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for them because they just put on their shorts

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and they put on their tank tops and they go outside

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and that's just the way it is. Yeah. And that's

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the thing. I know. What's it like to just not

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care? And like, I will say there were definitely

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moments. There were definitely moments on the

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trip where I basically let my eating kind of

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dictate how I was feeling in the sense that I

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felt very guilty that on the drive we had chips

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or I maybe had. like fast food because it was

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the only thing we could get. Or at one point

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I was like, Oh, you know what I super want? I

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want to shop a chocolate bar. Like I'm hungry.

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I need sugar. Let's go. And so we split a chocolate

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bar and I, so then I started to say things like,

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Oh boy. Yeah. I need to not be eating stuff like

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this. Like I'm getting fat. I can feel that I'm

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gaining weight. I can feel I'm getting fat. I

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can feel that I'm getting, you know, I'm not

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working out. I didn't work out before I left.

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Like I can just, and my friend was like, please

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shut. the actual fuck up. And I was like, no,

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like this is so terrible. How dare I? What is

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it? What am I thinking? What's going on? And

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I got home and I weighed myself and I was like,

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here we go. You have two pounds. Ooh, that's,

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that's it. Nothing pounds, two pounds, big book.

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That's it. Yeah. and like i had poutine now okay

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when i say i've had these things like please

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keep in mind like i am a bariatric patient so

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when i say i had a protein i had two bites of

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a poutine when i say that we had fast food we

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went to wendy's because we literally got into

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halifax 45 minutes before the wedding we were

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so late and i was like i actually need to eat

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because i haven't eaten all fucking day before

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i get to this fucking wedding or i'm gonna like

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pass out and wendy's was the only thing at this

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hotel So yeah, I got the spicy chicken sandwich

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and French fries. I just ordered a combo and

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my friend got a combo and I had three French

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fries. Cause I remember so clearly like running

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around with my dress on trying to get my hair

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ready, three French fries. And I had two bites

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of the sandwich and that was it. And she was

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like, Oh, you want me to save that for later?

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And I was like, Oh no, man, I'm fucking stuffed.

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Like I won't be eating that. Like I'm done. She

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was like, why did you buy this? And I was like,

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Oh, I'm, I'm well over the fact that I will buy

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food and a hundred percent never finish it. No,

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that's enough. So when I say, did I eat these

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things? It's not like I ate a whole bag of chips

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or I ate a whole chocolate bar. I ate a whole

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fucking burger and French fry combo. I had bites

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of things. So yes, I had lobster. I had poutine.

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I did have smart food. I had chips. Yes, we had

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cinnamon buns. None of it was finished and none

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of it was like, oh, I binged on a box of cinnamon

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buns, but I still felt, oh my God, I'm getting

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so fat. People are going to see it. They're going

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to think, oh my God. And I kept thinking like,

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you can see it in my face. My face is fat. Like,

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oh, it was just. It's all the old. Eating yourself

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up over things, not giving yourself that grace,

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not allowing yourself to enjoy little bits of

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things in moderation, because previously that's

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the thing, right? We would have bought the box

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of cinnamon buns and we would have crushed the

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box of cinnamon buns. Whereas now we can have

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a couple bites and put it away or we can. have

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them sitting on the counter and have a cinnamon

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bun today and then not have one tomorrow. And

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there's people who are still working on that

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and that's fine. And if you're not at that point

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yet, then that's fine. But the important thing

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is acknowledging if and when you're at that point.

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And that's, I think, part of this journey and

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all of the work that goes into this journey and

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to be able to be at that point now and be able

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to know that you can handle that. I think that's

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it ties back to like we always say where people

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are like, oh, you took the easy way out. It just

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goes to show how much work and effort goes into

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this entire process where same thing like we

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went out for dinner for the birthdays and I had.

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tacos and it came in like a set of three tacos.

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And it was funny because they put them down and

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both my kids are like, you're not going to be

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able to eat that. And I started laughing and

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I said, I don't know, guys, like I'm pretty hungry

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today. And both of them are like, nope, you can't

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eat three tacos. You can't eat three tacos. And

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so I made it through two and I was like, yeah,

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I'm out. I can't like I'm done. But before I

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would have been so full, but there would have

00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:02.960
been a third taco on my plate. So you can bet

00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.079
I would be eating. that third taco, I'd feel

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like crap. And I would know I shouldn't have

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it. And I would already be super full, but I

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feel as though I had to finish that food on my

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plate. Whereas now it's no, I know I'm full.

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I know if I have another bite, it's going to

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put me over the edge and I'm going to feel like

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crap. So I gave my tacos away. So it's just knowing,

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seeing the progress that you've made and how

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you've transitioned, I think is really. important,

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but it's also really cool. And it's another one

00:22:34.380 --> 00:22:36.960
of those non -scale victories where you can have

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that food in front of you and not scarf it all

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down. Or you can say, I'm done when there's still

00:22:41.539 --> 00:22:44.960
food on your plate and give it away or get rid

00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.519
of it and not feel guilty or feel like you have

00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.000
to finish it because it's in front of you. That's

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definitely a new thing for me and definitely

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something that was not there in the past, for

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sure. Yeah. And that's the thing. there will

00:23:02.099 --> 00:23:04.220
be times you just can eat more and it happens

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and it's fine. And I think the mental strife

00:23:07.500 --> 00:23:11.420
I gave myself on this vacation is absurd. Like

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the fact that I was like, my clothes don't fit

00:23:13.099 --> 00:23:15.220
as well. And I can feel it. And it's like, you

00:23:15.220 --> 00:23:16.980
can feel two pounds. You can feel two fucking

00:23:16.980 --> 00:23:19.099
pounds. Are you kidding me? Because I was convinced

00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:21.019
I was going to come home and I had gained at

00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:24.480
least 10 pounds or more. I was convinced. And

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:28.559
two pounds, two pounds can be chalked up to anything.

00:23:30.250 --> 00:23:34.250
Yeah. Or like just inflammation from sitting

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in the car for so long. We are having a heat

00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:39.329
wave, inflammation, like loose skin. Like it

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could be anything. And I'd like to point out,

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I didn't weigh myself like the day I got home.

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Like I weighed myself this week and I was like,

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wow, two. two big pounds and like I normally

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fluctuate two to three pounds like sometimes

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four there was a day where I was like what the

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I think I messaged you I was like what the fuck

00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.660
the scale said I was up four pounds and this

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morning I'm down six right my skin's fucking

00:24:00.900 --> 00:24:04.339
broken and oh that was insane I will also point

00:24:04.339 --> 00:24:06.299
out and like buckle up folks we're gonna get

00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:09.519
real friendly here I did not have the best like

00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.380
digestive health on this trip as in like it just

00:24:12.380 --> 00:24:15.279
wasn't it wasn't working it just wasn't working

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Makes a huge difference. Huge difference. So

00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.279
I was like, okay, well, because I even said to

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.160
my friend, like, if I don't poop on this trip,

00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.180
I'm going to be like, one of these days I got

00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:27.200
to poop, man. Like, what's going on? Because

00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.599
my eating was off, I actually realized I was

00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.140
not even eating enough. Your fiber's off and

00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:37.740
hydration's probably off your body. So I was

00:24:37.740 --> 00:24:40.240
like, oh, cool. So yeah, I gave myself all this

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.200
shit and then realized it was great. Road trips

00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:45.460
are hard. I don't know if I really have it in

00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:47.579
me to do another road trip because you also just

00:24:47.579 --> 00:24:49.799
aren't in the mood to eat. So that's the other

00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:51.799
thing is like, yes, I know I need to eat. Yes,

00:24:51.859 --> 00:24:54.220
I know I need my protein and water, but like

00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:57.460
I'm tired and I don't care. I just want to drive

00:24:57.460 --> 00:24:59.460
and get wherever the fuck we need to get to.

00:24:59.950 --> 00:25:02.069
My dad is the same way. I've definitely inherited

00:25:02.069 --> 00:25:04.910
this from him. But I think road trips are really

00:25:04.910 --> 00:25:08.349
tough on variations. Especially when you're by

00:25:08.349 --> 00:25:10.470
yourself. If you don't have somebody with you

00:25:10.470 --> 00:25:13.309
who's checking in with you and who you're keeping

00:25:13.309 --> 00:25:15.029
each other accountable and you don't have somebody

00:25:15.029 --> 00:25:16.970
to say, hey, here's a protein bar, eat this.

00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:20.829
Hey, here's your protein shake, let's go. Then

00:25:20.829 --> 00:25:23.650
it's very, it's no different than like when you

00:25:23.650 --> 00:25:25.630
have a super busy day and all of a sudden you

00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:29.320
look down and you go, oh my gosh, it's. almost

00:25:29.320 --> 00:25:32.940
lunchtime and I've had nothing. That happened

00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:36.559
to me today. I slept in a little bit. I didn't

00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.779
get, I gave myself a rest day today. I slept

00:25:38.779 --> 00:25:40.420
in a little bit. I got up. So I was behind with

00:25:40.420 --> 00:25:41.940
the morning routine and the girls and everything.

00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.819
And then work was busier today than expected.

00:25:45.500 --> 00:25:48.500
And all of a sudden I looked at my phone and

00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:51.480
it was almost 11 and I had eaten nothing yet.

00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.680
And I was like, Steph, like. Not cool. And then

00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:57.980
caught myself again, turning back to my computer

00:25:57.980 --> 00:25:59.920
a couple minutes later, being like, no, you have

00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:02.960
to stop. You have to walk away and eat something.

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.519
So when you're plowing through a road trip and

00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.519
you're concentrating on getting there and driving

00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.359
and all of that stuff, if you don't have somebody

00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.259
with you to keep you on track, then for sure,

00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:19.000
it's a very difficult situation to be in. I was

00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.039
lucky when we were on the plane that like I had

00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:22.960
Devin and the girls with me and they were constantly

00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.279
eating. So I was constantly being reminded. But

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:27.980
I could just sit there. I didn't have to worry

00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:29.339
about anything. I could just sit back, watch

00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:32.259
my movie, have my protein bar and whatever it

00:26:32.259 --> 00:26:35.319
may be. I think the hardest part was probably

00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:38.960
at the airport waiting for the planes when it's

00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.299
a lot of like junk crap food at the airport on

00:26:42.299 --> 00:26:44.740
the end of the trip because we didn't want to

00:26:44.740 --> 00:26:46.339
bring a whole bunch of stuff home with us. So

00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:49.519
we had to. more. We left all of our food with

00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.119
him and said, here, take it. So we were a little

00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:54.819
bit low on the way home so that I did struggle

00:26:54.819 --> 00:26:57.140
in the airport on the way home with trying to

00:26:57.140 --> 00:27:01.039
find something that I could eat. The other thing

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.539
is post -surgery, I was talking to a friend of

00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:05.759
mine who had bypassed a couple months ago. And

00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.019
I was saying, I don't know if this is just a

00:27:07.019 --> 00:27:08.980
sleeve thing or bypass thing, but we have talked

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:12.099
about this. The ridiculous noises that come out

00:27:12.099 --> 00:27:16.819
of your stomach post -surgery, my stomach. I

00:27:16.819 --> 00:27:22.539
say it talks. It gurgles so loud. Oh, God. Across

00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.059
my house. All the noise. Yeah. We'll be in the

00:27:26.059 --> 00:27:28.140
living room watching TV and Devin can hear it

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.980
from across the room with the TV on. So then,

00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.420
of course, I'm sitting there thinking, OK, well,

00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.240
what can I eat that I know is not going to set

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.579
my stomach off so that when I'm sitting on the

00:27:38.579 --> 00:27:41.180
plane beside these four strangers, all they can

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:43.799
hear is my stomach gurgling the entire flight.

00:27:45.259 --> 00:27:48.240
But it was just, yeah, it was very, very different.

00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.640
The planning to get there was good. The planning

00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:54.099
there was good. A little bit lacking on the planning

00:27:54.099 --> 00:27:57.319
coming home. But at that point, too, like didn't

00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.680
eat enough, just wanted to get home, just wanted

00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.480
to get into my bed. But other than that, I think

00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.380
it was good for me. It was just interesting how

00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:10.119
the entire experience of the vacation was different

00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.130
and how I got to experience so much more. of

00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:16.309
that place, even though I had already been there

00:28:16.309 --> 00:28:20.869
because my priorities were so shifted. Yeah,

00:28:20.910 --> 00:28:25.730
exactly. And it's just a change, not in a, it's

00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:28.210
not a bad change. It's a, you know, welcome to

00:28:28.210 --> 00:28:32.049
your new life, unique change. And he kind of

00:28:32.049 --> 00:28:33.430
nailed it about like, you don't, you know, if

00:28:33.430 --> 00:28:35.890
we don't have somebody there and I think it needs

00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:39.019
to be somebody bariatric because my friend is

00:28:39.019 --> 00:28:41.319
not a big eater either. And so it was really

00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.299
easy for both of us just to be like, Matt, we

00:28:43.299 --> 00:28:45.980
good. And I think also like, will it kill you

00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:48.660
now? Was I in my head a little bit about it and

00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:50.519
then panic? Yeah. And that didn't help. Right.

00:28:50.579 --> 00:28:52.779
Like. you know, you kind of realize how little

00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:54.259
you had. And then all of a sudden it's like,

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.000
oh my God, I'm going to, am I going to pass out?

00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:57.559
And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:28:57.619 --> 00:28:58.900
You're probably not going to feel great, but

00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:01.579
you'll be fine. Vitamins and minerals also went

00:29:01.579 --> 00:29:03.759
right the fuck out the window, which isn't great.

00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.519
This is a known problem for me, but like, I just

00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.740
get wrapped up in vacation and what I'm doing.

00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.359
And like, even today, it's a very, very bad thing

00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.900
to say. I have forgotten to take my vitamins

00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:16.519
and it's 12. So I know I'm going to take them,

00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.670
but like this happens where I'm like. be consistent.

00:29:20.769 --> 00:29:23.470
You have to stop getting so involved with work

00:29:23.470 --> 00:29:25.829
or travel. So I forgot to take mine yesterday.

00:29:25.970 --> 00:29:28.170
You can yell at me. It happens. It happens. It's

00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:30.450
fine. It's not a consistent thing that I let

00:29:30.450 --> 00:29:32.309
happen, but there are going to be days where

00:29:32.309 --> 00:29:34.089
you're like, but I want to get up and go do fun

00:29:34.089 --> 00:29:36.029
stuff. And oops, I forgot to take that giant

00:29:36.029 --> 00:29:37.970
pill container. That's the size of a fucking

00:29:37.970 --> 00:29:40.670
horse with me. So that's the other thing is like,

00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:43.670
it just happens and things happen. But I was,

00:29:43.670 --> 00:29:45.549
there were times where I was good as well. We

00:29:45.549 --> 00:29:47.809
were. out at a grocery store and, oh, why don't

00:29:47.809 --> 00:29:50.890
we get this pasta bake? And I was like, I almost

00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:52.450
was like, sure, who cares? But then I was like,

00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:53.750
I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I'm not

00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:55.930
going to eat that. I think honestly, I just want

00:29:55.930 --> 00:29:57.730
to go get a salad. So I'd like you guys to go

00:29:57.730 --> 00:30:01.029
get your own, whatever you want. I just want

00:30:01.029 --> 00:30:02.950
to have a little salad. Like all I'm kind of

00:30:02.950 --> 00:30:05.750
craving is a salad. I started buying sandwiches.

00:30:05.809 --> 00:30:07.390
Cause I was like, guys, I really just want like

00:30:07.390 --> 00:30:10.109
chicken salad. Like I just, at a certain point

00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:13.289
I really craved food. Like I needed food and

00:30:13.289 --> 00:30:16.140
that's. that's been a big change and different

00:30:16.140 --> 00:30:18.299
for me. Like in the past, Ooh, I got hiccups

00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:20.740
in the past when traveling, like I'd be eating

00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:22.759
ice cream and pizza and takeout and here we go.

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.400
And I wouldn't give a shit. But like in the middle

00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.339
of this trip, I was like, Oh my God, I just want

00:30:27.339 --> 00:30:31.359
to make real food. Your body wants different

00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.579
things. Like you will find you crave, you crave

00:30:34.579 --> 00:30:38.680
protein now and you crave things like I will.

00:30:39.180 --> 00:30:41.880
And we do this too. tied to that before I forget

00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:43.740
is just because you're on vacation with other

00:30:43.740 --> 00:30:45.460
people doesn't mean that they need to adhere

00:30:45.460 --> 00:30:48.579
to your eating habits or your ways, right? Like

00:30:48.579 --> 00:30:52.099
there is a really, really, really good bagel

00:30:52.099 --> 00:30:55.799
place in Canmore. And they make phenomenal bagels

00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.619
and cream cheese. And the girls really wanted

00:30:57.619 --> 00:30:59.119
to go there for breakfast. Well, that's cool.

00:30:59.259 --> 00:31:00.859
Devin doesn't eat breakfast. He usually does

00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:04.319
intermittent fasting. So that's fine. And I just

00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.079
wasn't in the mood to handle a bagel or to have

00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:08.960
a bagel. But we still went, right? The girls

00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.339
went. They got their bagels. They got their stuff.

00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.339
I actually got they had really good protein balls

00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:15.799
there. I got myself a protein ball and then went

00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.420
back to the Airbnb and the girls had their bagels.

00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:20.039
I had my protein ball and I forget what I had

00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.380
with it. So just because you're with other people

00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:25.740
doesn't mean they need to adhere to the way you're

00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:29.480
eating. But you will find you crave things now.

00:31:29.579 --> 00:31:33.380
Like we we I think it was on this trip. We did

00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:35.099
pretty good with our food, like I said, but I

00:31:35.099 --> 00:31:38.519
remember coming home and I just I was just craving.

00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:42.359
big salad and grilled chicken. Like I just wanted

00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.720
chicken and vegetables. And even now, like the

00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.579
family, Devin and the girls last night, they

00:31:48.579 --> 00:31:50.599
had tacos. It's not that I can't have tacos,

00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.720
but the particular ground beef we had last night

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.779
was really fatty compared to what we normally

00:31:54.779 --> 00:31:57.579
get. And so I just said to Devin, I'm not, I'm

00:31:57.579 --> 00:31:58.740
not going to have it. And he's like, well, you

00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:00.380
can strain it out. I said, you know what? No,

00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.599
I'm just not, not going to do it. Last time it

00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.380
didn't sit super well with me. So they had their

00:32:05.380 --> 00:32:09.339
tacos and then I had a chicken quesadilla with

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:13.640
my low carb, my protein wraps and my group, my

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.079
chicken. I had meal prepped in the fridge. And

00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.480
we still eat dinner together, but you don't have

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.339
to always worry about other people adhering to

00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:23.619
what you're doing. It's not going to ruin your

00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:27.680
vacation. It's a lot easier than you think it

00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.119
is to make it work or to find things that work.

00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.880
We had no issues on our, on our trip, making,

00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:36.160
making choices, even at restaurants, right? Like

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.180
they had their food. And I ordered off the appetizers.

00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.799
I ordered the three, the three little tacos off

00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.579
the appetizer and it was totally fine. So you

00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:46.240
don't, you don't have to worry about that. No.

00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.599
And that's, yeah. My aunt was like, let's go

00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:50.079
out for lunch. I haven't seen you in a while.

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.180
And I was like, okay, sure. Yeah. Cause like

00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:55.559
I can navigate restaurants much better now. And

00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.259
so I didn't even pick the restaurant. She picked

00:32:58.259 --> 00:32:59.920
it. I was like, you tell me. She's like, we're

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:01.500
going to meet here. And I was like, cool. Didn't

00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:03.299
even look up the menu ahead of time. I just said.

00:33:03.690 --> 00:33:05.490
I will make it work. And like I did. And it was

00:33:05.490 --> 00:33:07.369
really great. Like it was pretty easy to navigate

00:33:07.369 --> 00:33:11.309
that. So that has been a nice change on vacation

00:33:11.309 --> 00:33:13.569
where beforehand I'd have to pick everything.

00:33:13.670 --> 00:33:16.230
I'd have to research months in advance. I'd have

00:33:16.230 --> 00:33:18.309
to know. But now it's like, no, I'm good. Like

00:33:18.309 --> 00:33:20.829
I'm really good. I'll figure it out. And I actually

00:33:20.829 --> 00:33:22.890
said that a few times this trip, which was nice.

00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:24.990
No, I'm OK. I can have it. OK, I have a bit of

00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:29.490
that. I really like hazelnut coffee latte. And

00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:31.680
that's like. And that's one of the things, right?

00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.220
Like, well, we have hazelnut syrup at, you know,

00:33:34.220 --> 00:33:36.839
my friend had hazelnut syrup. And, you know,

00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:38.319
can you have it? And I was immediately going

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.940
to be like, let me look at the back and let me

00:33:40.940 --> 00:33:42.440
blah, blah, blah. And you know what I said? Like,

00:33:42.500 --> 00:33:44.400
I can probably have a bit of that. That's fine.

00:33:44.779 --> 00:33:47.259
Because it is okay. And so I looked at it and

00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:49.420
it was 13 grams of sugar for a tablespoon. And

00:33:49.420 --> 00:33:52.099
I said, that's fine. That's honestly going to

00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.160
be okay, given how little I'm going to have of

00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.539
sugar for the rest of the day. So it's been really

00:33:57.539 --> 00:34:00.140
nice to be able to say things like. yeah, it's

00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:01.799
fine. I'll make it work. Like I'll figure it

00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.980
out. Whereas before when traveling, I felt I

00:34:03.980 --> 00:34:06.799
was way more restricted and that's what, so,

00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:08.599
okay. The other thing was questions, questions,

00:34:08.659 --> 00:34:10.099
questions, questions, but that's what someone

00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:12.639
said. Oh my God, like eating and all of this

00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:14.380
must take up all of your time. You must think

00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:16.480
about it all the time. And I said, actually,

00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.980
no, I thought about it. Yeah. I said the first

00:34:19.980 --> 00:34:22.679
year, all I did was mentally add everything up

00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.059
and track. And I said, now that I'm like two

00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:28.530
years post -op, no, I'm pretty. like relaxed

00:34:28.530 --> 00:34:30.809
about it because I can almost do it in my sleep.

00:34:30.889 --> 00:34:33.070
Like I can look at a menu and just know what

00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:35.610
I can have. I can look at a meal and just, just

00:34:35.610 --> 00:34:37.630
kind of know and eyeball it. I can do things

00:34:37.630 --> 00:34:40.110
like kind of quickly in my mind go, I think it's

00:34:40.110 --> 00:34:41.550
okay for you to have a little splash of that

00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:44.710
syrup. And I, I got them. Okay. I did get anal

00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:46.469
and I took a little measuring spoon out to make

00:34:46.469 --> 00:34:49.070
sure I did just a tablespoon, but like it's little

00:34:49.070 --> 00:34:51.239
things like that where I'm like, no, I. I know

00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.619
how to balance this in my day now. Whereas before

00:34:53.619 --> 00:34:57.119
I'd be like 13, I try to stay to 10 and oh man,

00:34:57.219 --> 00:35:00.019
but now I'm like 13, that's fine. I'm not having

00:35:00.019 --> 00:35:01.519
another coffee today. I'm probably not going

00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:03.340
to have much other sugar today. I'll balance

00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:05.739
it and it's fine. It's like you're a ninja. You

00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:10.219
can now do it subconsciously. Now you still need

00:35:10.219 --> 00:35:12.320
to watch your calories because nobody can do

00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.579
that well as humans really underestimate. But

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:17.760
there's some cool superpower now that I have

00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.690
where I can balance my day. way more effectively

00:35:21.690 --> 00:35:27.010
than I could before. Exactly. Exactly. I'm not

00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:30.750
like, whoa, whoa, whoa. So that was a kind of

00:35:30.750 --> 00:35:33.429
cool change. I don't think going forward, I'll

00:35:33.429 --> 00:35:37.489
do a big road trip like this again. I say that,

00:35:37.590 --> 00:35:40.590
but like, what am I doing a few months and be

00:35:40.590 --> 00:35:43.530
like, guess where I'm going? It's just hard because

00:35:43.530 --> 00:35:45.909
that episode Hannah, you can have a cooler and

00:35:45.909 --> 00:35:47.849
pack all the things you want, but it's also like,

00:35:47.849 --> 00:35:49.820
it's human nature to be like, I don't want to

00:35:49.820 --> 00:35:51.760
eat any of that stuff that I just spent hours

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.539
making. But also sandwiches do not hold up well

00:35:54.539 --> 00:35:58.099
on an eight hour drive day. And it's just easier

00:35:58.099 --> 00:36:00.559
in the moment to pull into a rest stop and have

00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.760
something. So like it would just be what would

00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:04.820
I do? But there were times at the cottage where

00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:06.920
my aunt was like, hey, listen, I made you roasted

00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.880
chicken, quinoa salad. balsamic dressing like

00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.460
I don't know what you can have but I put it in

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:13.940
the fridge at the cottage and I made a literal

00:36:13.940 --> 00:36:16.400
like charcuterie plate I had like we bought cheese

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.400
because I'm loving my cheese and then I literally

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.500
took the roasted chicken like because she cut

00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:23.400
it all up yeah put a bunch there and I took the

00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.280
little balsamic thing and I sat and just ate

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.699
cheese and dipped chicken my friends what the

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:29.659
fuck you eating and I was like roasted chicken

00:36:29.659 --> 00:36:32.519
and some cheese and it was the best it was the

00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:38.570
best it was so good um It just goes to show the

00:36:38.570 --> 00:36:41.969
shift in mindset, right? Because now you can

00:36:41.969 --> 00:36:44.630
look at it and say, yeah, I can have a little

00:36:44.630 --> 00:36:46.769
bit of that. I can have a little bit of that.

00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:50.929
And then put it away or walk away or stop at

00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:54.510
that point versus once you get the taste on your

00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:58.829
lips, having to polish off the entire whatever

00:36:58.829 --> 00:37:01.469
it may be is now you know that, no, you know

00:37:01.469 --> 00:37:04.449
what? I can have that. I can fulfill that craving

00:37:04.449 --> 00:37:07.500
or that want. with my one or two bites, and then

00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:10.360
I can call it a day and I can walk away. Exactly.

00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.340
And that's the thing, right? So yeah, it's pretty

00:37:13.340 --> 00:37:17.539
good to be able to feel that way. Now I will

00:37:17.539 --> 00:37:24.099
say, one of the hard challenges of this is being

00:37:24.099 --> 00:37:26.559
rural. So I think the difference would be if

00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:28.630
I was doing a big road trip. maybe through the

00:37:28.630 --> 00:37:30.969
U .S., which we used to do. We used to drive

00:37:30.969 --> 00:37:33.110
through the states way, way back in the day,

00:37:33.110 --> 00:37:34.829
back when the states was okay to drive through,

00:37:34.889 --> 00:37:37.989
to get to Nova Scotia because there's just more.

00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:40.449
There's more restaurants, more towns, more stops.

00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:44.010
The really hard thing about this drive was basically

00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:47.690
after Ottawa because then it's like, watch out

00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:50.510
for moose and a whole lot of nothing else. So

00:37:50.510 --> 00:37:52.829
it's not like I could stop at a restaurant. Or

00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:54.989
order something really quickly. Like I remember

00:37:54.989 --> 00:37:57.789
when we got to New Brunswick, we got to New Brunswick

00:37:57.789 --> 00:38:00.150
and it was like a weekday. So this was weird.

00:38:00.230 --> 00:38:02.150
But we get into New Brunswick around 2 p .m.

00:38:02.570 --> 00:38:04.230
because we're only driving eight hours a day

00:38:04.230 --> 00:38:06.289
max because of the dogs. And I was like, I'm

00:38:06.289 --> 00:38:08.670
hungry. Like we need to eat something. I'm looking

00:38:08.670 --> 00:38:11.349
for restaurants and there's no restaurants. And

00:38:11.349 --> 00:38:14.309
I was like, OK, right. We're in this little tiny

00:38:14.309 --> 00:38:17.119
town in New Brunswick. There's a pizza place.

00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:18.719
And I was like, I can't do pizza. Like pizza

00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.539
does not sit well in my stomach. So we're looking

00:38:21.539 --> 00:38:24.000
and looking and I'm realizing there's fucking

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.260
nowhere to go. There's a grocery store open.

00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.190
And I was like. Perfect. I don't have a kitchen.

00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:30.110
I don't have an oven. I don't have like I don't

00:38:30.110 --> 00:38:32.889
know. Fuck all. And I wanted something hot, but

00:38:32.889 --> 00:38:34.369
I couldn't. So we went to the grocery store,

00:38:34.449 --> 00:38:37.230
which was the tiniest grocery store. And I was

00:38:37.230 --> 00:38:40.530
like, oh, this is going to be a long fucking

00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:43.230
trip if this is all that's available. Those like

00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:45.530
prepackaged sandwiches, which like chicken salad

00:38:45.530 --> 00:38:47.369
sandwiches are dope as fuck. Don't get me wrong.

00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:50.449
But like nothing substantial or healthy available.

00:38:50.530 --> 00:38:53.469
Like I have my choices were. very limited very

00:38:53.469 --> 00:38:55.690
fucking limited and i was like okay well i can't

00:38:55.690 --> 00:38:59.090
live on goldfish and like gas station roast beef

00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:02.489
sandwich um not good but we didn't know that

00:39:02.489 --> 00:39:04.510
like i didn't know that nothing would be open

00:39:04.510 --> 00:39:06.809
in new brunswick or that would be so far removed

00:39:06.809 --> 00:39:09.030
and that's like my fault i had to pick a dog

00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:10.849
friendly hotel and we were in a place called

00:39:10.849 --> 00:39:13.210
plaster rock new brunswick which is fucking stunning

00:39:13.210 --> 00:39:17.010
and beautiful but it wasn't like a tourist destination

00:39:17.010 --> 00:39:20.500
where i had somewhere to eat and then we got

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:23.079
into Nova Scotia and again, we got in around

00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.000
3 PM and I fucking forgot, even though I'm born

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.420
and raised there, there is no grocery store on

00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:30.460
Barney's river, none. And I should have fucking

00:39:30.460 --> 00:39:32.679
stopped on the way in, but I didn't because I

00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.260
just wanted to get there. So I forgot too, that

00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:37.900
I'm going to get to Barney's river and have no

00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:40.719
restaurant, no delivery, no food, nothing. And

00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.079
the fridge had eggs and yogurt and like, didn't

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.840
really want eggs and yogurt for dinner. So that

00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:48.980
I think is the hard thing about my road trip

00:39:48.980 --> 00:39:53.400
is. especially going rural, it really makes it

00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.179
hard. And there's very little you're going to

00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:58.340
be able to pack in advance that isn't going to

00:39:58.340 --> 00:40:02.039
just be powdered protein or some built bars.

00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:06.980
And I started to crave routine and being at home

00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:10.300
and being able to make things. So that was a

00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:12.280
challenge. That's why I say I don't know if I

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.199
really want to do it again. I'd have to maybe

00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.619
plan a little bit better or go into, I think

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:19.940
I went into it a bit too naive. I think I'd have

00:40:19.940 --> 00:40:21.900
to. I think a road trip to a different location,

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.260
right? I think a lot of the location, right?

00:40:25.340 --> 00:40:27.260
But if you were going, let's say you're going,

00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:30.559
I don't know, somewhere out West or just to a

00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.679
different area, maybe not as rural, it would

00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:34.599
then obviously, yeah, it would be easier to know

00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.340
that you have the resources you need easily accessible

00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:41.940
at hand when you need them. But yeah, when you're

00:40:41.940 --> 00:40:46.530
in a rural location. Like you need, it becomes

00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:50.650
difficult and that's, that's tough. That's what

00:40:50.650 --> 00:40:54.530
made it hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's

00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:58.329
my life up here. So that's, that's the only,

00:40:58.369 --> 00:41:02.550
that's the only hesitation. Outside of that,

00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:08.010
we're all good. Yeah. You can build bars and

00:41:08.010 --> 00:41:09.989
premier protein. And I think there was like.

00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:12.050
I think there was just a lot of it as well where

00:41:12.050 --> 00:41:19.349
it was like, oh, I'm probably just. Yeah, I'm

00:41:19.349 --> 00:41:22.829
probably just a little over anxious about not

00:41:22.829 --> 00:41:25.369
having eaten. I think I was fine and I like nothing

00:41:25.369 --> 00:41:29.199
was going to nothing was going to happen. It's

00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.500
a different experience, right? And yeah, you

00:41:32.500 --> 00:41:35.159
want to be strong and have fun and enjoy your

00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.219
vacation. But like, yeah, I think just a little

00:41:37.219 --> 00:41:40.239
bit more planning on my end on a road trip is

00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.679
different. I think flying is a bit easier because

00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.420
the travel day is less tiring. So I think that's

00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:47.179
the other thing is like it was a bit tiring.

00:41:47.219 --> 00:41:49.059
And then you're like, oh, you're a bariatric

00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:51.179
patient. You don't just get to sit down like

00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:52.940
you have to go grocery shopping and you got to

00:41:52.940 --> 00:41:55.400
figure it out. And so it was good, though. Overall,

00:41:55.539 --> 00:41:58.360
it was good. It opened my eyes to. what road

00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.860
trips look like now, how to better prepare for

00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:05.659
them. Um, yeah, but overall vacation was different

00:42:05.659 --> 00:42:09.019
in a good way. Um, still lots of questions about

00:42:09.019 --> 00:42:11.840
surgery and I love answering them. So I nevermind.

00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.340
And my family, I think feels guilty and I'm like,

00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.460
don't feel guilty. I love talking about this.

00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.500
Right. So ask away, ask and get the correct answer.

00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.079
Then not ask, make assumptions that are incorrect.

00:42:21.500 --> 00:42:25.010
Yes. And I think, boy, cause it's been. It's

00:42:25.010 --> 00:42:26.769
been over two years because I went just after

00:42:26.769 --> 00:42:29.349
surgery. I think that's the initial shock for

00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:32.929
people because when I had went, I think I was

00:42:32.929 --> 00:42:36.630
at 60 pounds lost or just like just coming up

00:42:36.630 --> 00:42:41.130
on 60 pounds lost, which is cool. But then what

00:42:41.130 --> 00:42:46.489
happened was because, you know, it's been time

00:42:46.489 --> 00:42:49.480
and they've seen all my photos. it's not as like,

00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.860
oh my God, look at you. I got nice comments,

00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:56.199
but it wasn't like, oh, awesome. We don't have

00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.019
to awkwardly do this again and again and again.

00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.440
Like people don't feel like they have to be like,

00:43:00.500 --> 00:43:01.860
oh my God, look how much weight you've lost.

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.400
You're so good. Yeah. You know, like there were

00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.340
calm comments about like, wow, you look great.

00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.460
You just, you must feel so good. And I was like,

00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:11.280
I do, I do feel really good. It's pretty great.

00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.659
But it was more about me and not. me surgery

00:43:15.659 --> 00:43:19.039
me me yeah there were still lots of surgery questions

00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.679
but I think one of the coolest things I'll end

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.539
on that I just was just so cool we're having

00:43:25.539 --> 00:43:27.380
a family barbecue it's what we like to do with

00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:29.079
the cottage and so I went out and bought the

00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.590
hamburgers and the hot dogs and like I'm a notorious

00:43:31.590 --> 00:43:35.590
hot dog person. I love hot dogs. And everybody

00:43:35.590 --> 00:43:37.010
else is going to bring stuff. And I remember

00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:38.329
them being like, what should we bring? And I

00:43:38.329 --> 00:43:39.889
said, honestly, just bring whatever you'd like.

00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:41.989
Do whatever you want, guys. I'm not going to

00:43:41.989 --> 00:43:43.530
tell you one way or the other. I've got the hot

00:43:43.530 --> 00:43:45.150
dogs and hamburgers. You do whatever you want.

00:43:45.349 --> 00:43:47.050
I said, I'm also going to get chips because the

00:43:47.050 --> 00:43:50.769
kids were coming and stuff. And plus, you can

00:43:50.769 --> 00:43:53.630
get really good, the Munchies brand chips, which

00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:57.340
was fucking great. Everybody showed up with something.

00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.199
And like when you have a Nova Scotia barbecue,

00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.260
there is food for fucking days. So everybody

00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:05.340
showed up with something. My aunt made this rhubarb

00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:07.719
dessert and it was just a shortbread base with

00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.019
like a rhubarb on top. And she made a comment

00:44:10.019 --> 00:44:11.619
about like it's really low sugar. And I was like,

00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.420
oh, that's like, thank you. That's so sweet.

00:44:13.460 --> 00:44:15.760
I love rhubarb. Like I'll probably try some.

00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.800
And then my cousin showed up and she made a pasta

00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.210
salad. uh she was talking about like oh it's

00:44:22.210 --> 00:44:25.409
dill pickle and i was like well fuck i'm having

00:44:25.409 --> 00:44:28.650
some of that um and it had dill pickles and it

00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:30.710
had cheese and blah blah blah and she made a

00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:32.809
comment in passing going oh yeah the dressing

00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:34.889
um you know for this dressing this time i made

00:44:34.889 --> 00:44:36.690
it with greek yogurt and i remember thinking

00:44:36.690 --> 00:44:39.960
oh well that's pretty cool and then my other

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.719
aunt shows up and she made potato salad and she

00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.199
said hey I made a vinaigrette for the potato

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.559
salad instead of a creamy one so I used lemon

00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.960
and mint and basically green goddess yeah not

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.599
made with mayo just just kind of made with a

00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.579
little bit of olive oil and she's like because

00:44:57.579 --> 00:44:59.599
you know that would be lighter and I was like

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.860
oh cool and like I didn't realize and like after

00:45:02.860 --> 00:45:08.929
that but I was like oh like everybody intentionally

00:45:08.929 --> 00:45:13.170
made healthier dishes. It's like low sugar, no

00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:17.650
mayo, Greek yogurt. And like, they didn't, they

00:45:17.650 --> 00:45:20.010
just did it. And I was like, oh, like it was

00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:22.590
just the awesome. Honestly, it was like the sweetest,

00:45:22.590 --> 00:45:25.610
coolest feeling ever because everybody devoured

00:45:25.610 --> 00:45:27.570
the food and it was really delicious. And I was

00:45:27.570 --> 00:45:30.849
like, oh, like, I don't know. There's just like,

00:45:30.849 --> 00:45:33.050
there's kind of a moment where you're like, oh,

00:45:33.269 --> 00:45:36.920
like. That was for me. Like that was for me.

00:45:37.380 --> 00:45:39.940
Adding to put the effort in is awesome. Yeah.

00:45:40.019 --> 00:45:42.079
It's pretty, it was pretty cool. And I have to

00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.940
say that frigging pasta salad, that potato salad.

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:50.039
God damn. It was so good. Makes people really

00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:55.280
good. But it might also then have a non, like

00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.900
a non implicated effect on them too, because

00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:00.789
now. They're thinking outside the box and they're

00:46:00.789 --> 00:46:03.170
thinking about making things healthier. And like

00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:05.050
you said, everybody devoured it. So once people

00:46:05.050 --> 00:46:06.849
eat it and say, hey, this is actually pretty

00:46:06.849 --> 00:46:10.190
good, then maybe that becomes a new norm for

00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:12.829
them. And it has kind of an extended trickle

00:46:12.829 --> 00:46:16.349
down effect where you're kind of opening people's

00:46:16.349 --> 00:46:20.829
eyes to new experiences, new things, healthier

00:46:20.829 --> 00:46:24.519
options without necessity. shoving it let's say

00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:25.900
you're not shoving it in their face because they're

00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:29.480
choosing to do this so it's pros on both sides

00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.119
exactly so it was just that was a really good

00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.840
feeling was like oh cool um that is this vacation

00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.320
felt very freeing I felt normal um I felt really

00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.000
good I had moments of self -doubt where I felt

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:48.739
like I was fat and gaining a ton of weight like

00:46:48.739 --> 00:46:51.860
two pounds two fucking pounds Like, honestly,

00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.719
I can't even attribute that two pounds to this

00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:55.900
vacation either, because like we said, it could

00:46:55.900 --> 00:47:02.679
be anything. So that was, I'd say that was a

00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.659
big, a big win. Yeah. But overall, I think what

00:47:06.659 --> 00:47:08.980
you and I are learning is that travel looks different

00:47:08.980 --> 00:47:11.420
and it's really not in a bad way. Travel looks

00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:14.280
different. It's going to continue to evolve as

00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.340
we go. I think it was eyeopening to see what.

00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.159
flying versus driving looks like and maybe didn't

00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:25.659
make the best decisions but but I learned and

00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:27.719
I think that's the important thing and like that

00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.400
I didn't learn yeah there's more planning involved

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.500
but there was hands down more positives than

00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:35.639
negatives like this was the first time where

00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.260
I got on a plane and I wasn't stressed out about

00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:42.599
sitting beside somebody and like encroaching

00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.800
on them And having to worry about them being

00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.300
like, oh, I have to sit beside that person. That

00:47:48.300 --> 00:47:51.099
wasn't weighing on my mind. The fact that I could

00:47:51.099 --> 00:47:54.360
sit in the seat and have room. The fact that

00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.019
I didn't have to worry about a seatbelt extender.

00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.800
That I actually had, like, I had space in my

00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.880
seatbelt. And I had extra seatbelt on the end.

00:48:03.980 --> 00:48:06.639
And that I could get up and down easily. That

00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.079
I could go into the airplane bathroom and not

00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.610
have to, like, bam myself. So many things that

00:48:14.610 --> 00:48:17.309
now you don't have to worry about and aren't

00:48:17.309 --> 00:48:21.510
weighing you down that you enjoy the travel process

00:48:21.510 --> 00:48:25.289
and traveling in itself. So yeah, a little bit

00:48:25.289 --> 00:48:28.269
more planning, a little bit more work, but so

00:48:28.269 --> 00:48:31.969
many positives on the other side of it. Yeah.

00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:39.250
No, it was great. Which I like. So yeah, travel

00:48:39.250 --> 00:48:43.989
is different, but not bad. And there's always

00:48:43.989 --> 00:48:46.489
going to be new things to learn because we're,

00:48:46.489 --> 00:48:48.710
you know, we're not 10 years into this. We're

00:48:48.710 --> 00:48:52.510
two, two and a couple months. So yeah, travel

00:48:52.510 --> 00:48:55.630
is different nowadays, but not bad. So I'm glad

00:48:55.630 --> 00:49:00.030
I did it. I survived. And I had a good time.

00:49:00.090 --> 00:49:02.429
And now I'm very much looking forward to not

00:49:02.429 --> 00:49:04.369
doing anything for a couple of weeks and just

00:49:04.369 --> 00:49:06.570
relaxing at home because vacations are great.

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But boy, they're exhausting. They fire you out.

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Yeah, they are quite exhausting. But no, it was

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good. And yours was good. And we have great pictures

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and great memories. And it's just, yeah, it's

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kind of showing us, I don't know, what life is

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going to be like going forward, which is kind

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of cool. Yeah. So many more opportunities than

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what were there before, which is really. So many

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more. So many more. So many doors are open. So

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many opportunities are open. And so many chances

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for. Awesome memories that would not have been

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an option before. Right. Stay tuned because I'm

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sure there will be more travel stories in the

00:49:43.659 --> 00:49:46.780
future. There will because now the world is open

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to us and we plan to explore it as much as possible.

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Love it. I'm ready. Me too. We do. We need to

00:49:55.059 --> 00:49:57.619
do a bariatric trip. Maybe we should do like

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a camping trip. Actually, that's what we should

00:49:59.969 --> 00:50:01.969
do. You, me, and Cass, I'm just going to put

00:50:01.969 --> 00:50:04.409
it out in the universe now on the podcast. We

00:50:04.409 --> 00:50:06.730
should do an episode from a campground. I think

00:50:06.730 --> 00:50:09.530
it would be really fun. We'll call it the Bariatric

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Camping Trip. And we'll talk about how we cook

00:50:12.469 --> 00:50:15.130
meals over the fire and camp. And we'll do a

00:50:15.130 --> 00:50:18.690
whole episode from a campsite. I'm down. It's

00:50:18.690 --> 00:50:20.630
going to be fun. And then maybe we'll do a hosted

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camping trip one day for people who are... local

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and nearby. So thanks everybody for coming back

00:50:26.780 --> 00:50:29.119
and listening. We're so fucking happy to be back.

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We've missed you all so much. Congratulations

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to everyone who's had surgery or whose surgery

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is about to happen or who just had it. You know,

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.699
good luck and keep us updated on how that goes.

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We will be back next week with another episode.

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We are not going to tell you about the episode

00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.820
just yet. We'll let you know on social what it's

00:50:46.820 --> 00:50:49.139
about. But like always, send us your topics,

00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:50.960
themes, questions, anything you want to see on

00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.659
social. Now that we're back and recharged and

00:50:53.659 --> 00:50:55.480
rested, we're going to be on there a little bit

00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.960
more. And just big thanks, Steph, for joining

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.519
me again for another episode of the podcast.

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Anytime. Stay tuned. We'll talk to you guys later.

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Bye, everybody. Bye, guys.