Breaking the Rules: The Hard Truth About Bariatric Discipline

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Hey, Steph. Hello. How's it going? It's good.

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Welcome back to another episode of Bariatric

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Banter Podcast. I love it. I can't believe we're

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almost at 30. I know this is so incredible. Like

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episode 23, it's just, wow, I can't believe it.

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And we've just been having some amazing conversations

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about the podcast lately, like about maybe going

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and doing a camping trip and inviting some guests

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and recording. Steph and I are actually going

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to like plan a whole day where we just get together

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and do nothing but record episodes and maybe

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we'll make some TikToks and stuff. But we're,

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yeah, we're really starting to kind of look at

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like, how do we invest in this little podcast

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to kind of... keep it going. But it's been an

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incredible couple of months so far. It feels

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like we've done this forever. Right. Having so

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much fun. It's been so good. And I love it. Like

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we've said this before. It's obviously one of

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the reasons we're doing this is to help try and

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hopefully help others. But I've just found for

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me to like it's been so beneficial personally

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for me just to talk about things, to vent about

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things, to be vulnerable. So I'm super happy.

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with how things have gone so far. I'm really

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excited to keep going and, and see what else

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we come up with along the way. I agree. It's

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been really fun. And like, even to the point

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where I've had so many, you know, just random

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people tell me they love listening to the podcast

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and how open we are, but also my therapist was

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like, Oh, you're just so open on your podcast

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about, you know, your health and your wellness

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and your mental health and your challenges. And

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I was like, Oh yeah. Didn't didn't think that

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you listened. But yeah, so it's been yeah, it's

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just been great. And I think we chat we talk

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about way more positives and negatives, which

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is also great because the surgery is way more

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positive than it is negative. Oh, gosh. And.

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Today, we're going to kind of have a little bit

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of fun with it because today we're going to talk

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about breaking the rules. Scandalous. I know.

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Oh, my God. Quick. Clutch your pearls. Gasp.

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Right? What? How dare they? We're going to talk

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about a hot button issue, but we're going to

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talk about breaking the rules where we personally

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have broken the rules and think it's fine to

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bend and where we don't think it's okay to break

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the rules. And this has come up because there

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has been an alarming amount of stuff on social

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recently, including someone who got really mad

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because we called them out and that's a whole

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thing. there's been an alarming amount of social

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media posts where everybody keeps saying the

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exact same thing. Oh, well, I'm not good at following

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the rules. Yeah. Well, I'm not one that follows

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rules. And literally I've seen like seven back

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-to -back TikToks where they all use the exact

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same wording. So clearly they're all watching

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each other or in the same communities, but they

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say it as if it's like totally fine, nonchalant.

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I don't have to do what I don't want to do because

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that's just me. And that makes it okay. And that

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makes it OK. And we're kind of seeing it spread

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as like a minor epidemic where it's almost as

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if because someone else said it and then someone

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else said it and then someone else said it, you

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all think it's OK now. And there are definitely

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rules to be broken in bariatric surgery. Hell

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yeah. But my large concern is the rules that

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these people on social are breaking. I don't

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feel safe encouraging that. No, not the minor

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ones at all. Exactly. And it's it's. Those people

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who are out there, like we, like you said, saying,

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you know, I'm not good with rules. So as if that

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makes it okay. And that's an excuse and justification.

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And then the more other people are seeing that,

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the more they're thinking, well, if they're doing

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it, I can do it. They turned out fine. I'll be

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fine. But just because like, that's no, just

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because one person is okay. Doesn't mean your

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body will react the same way. It doesn't mean

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your long -term outcomes will be the same. And

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bottom line is, and it's the cliche saying, but.

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How many times was I told this growing up? If

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your friends jumped off a bridge, would you?

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My mom said that all the time. Right? Like all

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the time. Just because they did it. And I definitely

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say it to my kids too. Chances are I probably

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would. Right? But it's becoming so much of the

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norm now. And it's just not okay. It's not OK,

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especially when there's such limited content

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out there, especially on the Canadian side, like

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we've talked about. And the people who are going

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to have the surgery, who are looking for advice

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and looking for help, that's what they're seeing.

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And that's what they're thinking is OK. And they

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haven't even really started the process yet.

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It's only going to get worse from there. You

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need to set up that strong foundation. And like

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you said, it's becoming very alarming how many

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people are posting as though this is OK. And

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they're so early on their journey and already

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doing it. That is exactly the point I was going

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to bring up. It's not like you're watching people

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10 years post -op who are like, yeah, I don't

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do this anymore. And I would argue if it is somebody

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who's five to 10 years post -op, well, they've...

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They've determined how to make it work for their

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body. If you're a fresh baby surgeon, fresh out

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the OR, don't watch someone 10 years into the

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future because they got there by following healthy

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habits and now they can be a little bit more

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lax. But the people we're seeing on social are

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like a few months out of surgery. And they're

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the ones being like, I don't follow the rules.

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I've never been good with following the rules.

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Or they'll say things like... I know a friend

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of a friend or I know two people who don't take

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any of their vitamins and they're fine. Yeah,

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they're also six months post -op. please god

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but I'm just noticing it's like trickling out

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of social and into other areas and I'm so alarmed

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by the people saying things like well I didn't

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have surgery to not treat myself oh right the

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reason you did have surgery is because you probably

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treated yourself too much and I hate to you you're

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not here to treat yourself the world is no longer

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about desserts and treats anymore so sorry or

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well, I'm not good at following the rules, so

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it's totally fine. I just did something early.

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There's a reason. And it's not that you don't

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feel good or that you can't do it. It's that

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you have to start trying to follow rules because

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as obese individuals, we didn't. And you're going

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to try to tell me, oh, I ate really good when

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I was overweight and I did follow the rules and

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blah, blah, blah. No, you didn't. You didn't

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work fat for a reason. But you can't look me

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in the eyes. Like if they tell you, okay, you

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need to. you need to not eat pork for six months.

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We'll rule out Steph accidentally eating it and

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not knowing it, which I did the same thing accidentally.

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I got a charcuterie. I thought it was turkey

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pepperettes. It wasn't, but I digress. If they

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say don't eat pork for six months, they don't

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mean eat pork when you think you can before six

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months because it doesn't hurt your stomach.

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They're saying, can you follow a basic rule about

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eating? There's a reason why these rules are

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in place. They're not just putting it there for

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fun. It has to do with, and depending on the

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rule, right? But there's rules that are put in

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place to allow your stomach to heal, to allow

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your incisions to heal, to make sure you're not

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ripping your staples out because certain foods

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are significantly harder on your stomach to digest

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and your stomach needs time to build up. And

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like, there's reasons behind this. And if you

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can't, yeah. The thing is, we are not, like you

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said, we are not good at following rules in the

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obese world, clearly, because otherwise we wouldn't

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have ended up in the situation we're in. And

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we've talked about this before, how our program

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was a little bit longer than some of the other

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ones. And would it have been nice to have surgery

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two months into the program and be done? Sure.

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But looking back, having that 11 months was so

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important because it allowed me to work through.

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a lot of the mental side of things, a lot of

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the why I ended up here, but to start building

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those habits and start practicing, putting those

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rules into place so that when it comes time for

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surgery, it's just the new norm. And yeah, like

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we said, there's times where we'll talk about

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where we've broken the rules here and there,

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but generally speaking, those are one -offs.

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Those are mistakes. Those are moments where we've

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gone, okay, you know what? Yeah, shit, I caved.

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I shouldn't have done that, but I did it. it's

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over let's start again versus oh it's fine we'll

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just do it another time oh it's fine whatever

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it's fine and you raised a really great point

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like some of these are reasons that you don't

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know so like let's go back to the pork one right

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you're not supposed to have corn pork and red

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meat yeah I think that's for six months if I'm

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not mistaken I think you're supposed to wait

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six months to have that now it's because those

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are super hard to digest on your stomach Now,

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does that mean if you ate pork at three months,

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it's going to hurt? Nope. You probably could.

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You probably could sit down and eat pork and

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you would feel fine. Should you so? No, because

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it takes so long for your stomach to power through

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that, that what you're doing is generating way

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more acid, way more enzymes. You're overworking.

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Think of it as if it was your heart. And that's

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what annoys me is people don't treat this seriously.

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If your doctor said to you, stop eating red meat

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because it is making your heart work way harder

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than it needs to, most people would go, fuck.

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I'm not going to eat the red meat. The last thing

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I need is my heart working way harder than it

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should. But when we say the same thing about

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our fucking stomachs, it's like, well, I ate

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it. I feel fine. Yeah. But do you know it's overworking

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and that your incisions internally take time

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to heal and you can get hernias. And I'm two

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years post -op and I can still fuck my stomach

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up. If I'm not cautious, you can get gallstones,

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you can get severe acid reflux and GERD. And

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if you do develop that, you have to go have a

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revision surgery because you actually can't get

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rid of it. And like, this can all happen by eating

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the wrong things, eating on the wrong schedule,

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overeating. Like you can't reverse it once you

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get some of these things. And what ends up happening

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is you need to go for further surgery or something

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has to be removed. Like the people who get gallstones

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after surgery. Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. I'd rather

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have my arms torn off by wild animals. Like,

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it's apparently so painful. Yeah. Pancreatitis.

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If you develop pancreatitis, which is rare, happens

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more with people on Ozempic, actually. But if

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you develop pancreatitis and they have to remove

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your pancreas, you become a diabetic. Like, there's

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no way around that. So people seem to think,

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well, I ate it and I feel fine. There's so much

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more going on in your body than just I feel fine.

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Just because you feel fine doesn't. doesn't mean

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things aren't happening internally that you can't

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see. And I know we've said before, like, yes,

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it's laparoscopic. Yes. It was a fair for us

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for sleeve. It was a fairly easy recovery. Yes.

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It was at least for me, not nearly as scary or

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as big of a deal as I thought. However, it's

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still surgery and it's still changing your continue.

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Yeah, no, but I mean, For me, at least, it wasn't

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as big of a deal as I thought it was going to

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be. But it's still surgery. You're still changing

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your anatomy. We're still cutting things inside.

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There's staples, there's stitches, there's stuff

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to be aware of. Especially then if you're having

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bypass, you are redoing your anatomy inside.

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Aside from the food, I mean, there are reasons

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why, yeah, there are certain foods you can't

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eat because they don't want to get caught in

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your staples or caught in your stitches. That's

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a big one as well that people don't think about.

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That's why we're on fluids and then purees for

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so long is because you can get food stuck in

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there, in those staples. That's not ideal. But

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even things like taking it easy after. There's

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a reason why you're supposed to take it easy.

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You're not supposed to lift. You're not supposed

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to bend. You have, again, on the outside, you're

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like, oh, I just have five tiny little incisions.

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I feel great. This doesn't hurt at all. But people

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forget what's going on internally. And that's

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where most of these rules come from, is you have

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to think about the physical change to your anatomy

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internally and how much more healing has to happen

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inside than outside. Just because you feel great

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doesn't mean you don't have a huge line of staples

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down the side of your stomach inside. And just

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because I think like we focus on like the medical

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side, right? And there's going to be people who

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go medically, I feel fine. You're full of shit.

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Get over it. Okay, great. Right. You know what?

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Sure. For every rule, there is an exception.

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For every rule, there's someone who was totally

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fine, right? With breaking all the rules and

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still succeeded. Fine. The other side of the

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rules though, is that. you can't be trusted.

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The reason you are having this surgery is not

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because a fucking obese fairy flew into the window

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and hit you with her wand and said, you're fat

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now. And as much as you want to pretend that

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you ate well and did like you, again, you've

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heard us say before, you don't get fat eating

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salad. You can't trust yourself. And the other

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thing they're trying to establish is you get

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one year, and we call it the magic year for a

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reason, to redo your habits, to basically build

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discipline. And so while you might say, I feel

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great and I think it's fine, but I'm going to

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start having pork and red meat in the fourth

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month instead of the sixth. Or I don't want to

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wait that long for popcorn. I feel fine. I'm

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having it in the third month. I'm not making

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it to six months. It's fine. It's sitting well.

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Okay, cool. For a reason. is internal don't get

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me wrong but it's also because they need you

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to be able to stick to a habit they need to say

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you have to be able to say i don't need to eat

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this i don't need this i don't need treats i

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don't need sweets like you shouldn't be counting

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down to the end of a year to start binge eating

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donuts and shit again right there's a reason

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that they say don't have x amount of sugar per

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serving and it's alarming to see people go out

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two three months after having surgery and go,

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well, whatever, it sits well, I'm going to go

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have an ice cream, or I'm going to go have a

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full sugar coffee latte thing. Like, yeah, okay,

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just because you can doesn't mean you're supposed

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to. So they're trying to say, over the course

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of a year, if you follow these rules, not only

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will it be better for your recovery, but you

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will now have built discipline and habits that

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we expect to see you continue in year 234. Because

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I will tell you, it is a magic year. And around

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that 11 month mark, you're going to be hit with

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a fucking trap called reality where your weight

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loss completely slows down. And you go back to

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being a normal functioning human, which is if

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you put the work in maybe a pound a week, but

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you're gone are the days of five to six pounds

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a week and rapid drop. Like you have to put the

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work in. And when they tell you, you'll be back

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to normal and eating normally. They're not joking.

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There will be a day. Or it's like a switch has

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been lifted and all of a sudden you can eat every

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single thing as much as you want. Now, I still

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like you still have restrictions. I can't eat

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over a certain serving size, but you're hungry

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more often. Right. And you can definitely eat

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shit. So that's the other side of this coin that

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I want people to remember. I don't give a shit

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if you physically feel fine and you end up having

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zero symptoms from breaking the rules. It's the

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discipline. It's going to catch up to you. It's

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the discipline that you are cheating yourself

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out of because the magic first year is just a

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year and 11 months goes by in the blink of an

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eye. Cause remember you don't lose for the full

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11 months. You're going to stall around three

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weeks. You're going to stall around three months.

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You're going to stall around six months. Like

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you're going to have months where you probably

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don't lose anything in the first year or two.

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And then if I hear one more person. And that's

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when you're going to go off the wagon. Yeah.

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And if one more person says surgery didn't work

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for me. Right. Well, and that's work. Yeah. And

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that's exactly how you're when you're going to

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cheat yourself the most. So like you said, there's

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going to be stalls. And so when they say stalls,

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they typically say two to three weeks. I've had

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stalls that are four days, six days. That's kind

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of been my average four ish to six, which is

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still frustrating. But recently I had my eight

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month stall and I had it was. just shy of three

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weeks and those are the most frustrating times

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because you're clearly in a calorie deficit you're

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now this is assuming you're doing what you're

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supposed to be doing in a calorie deficit you're

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moving your body you're exercising you're hitting

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all of your goals there's no logical reason why

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the scale shouldn't be moving these are the times

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when you want to rip your hair out and you sit

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there going well this is stupid what's the point

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and if you haven't built those foundations in

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and those habits in. And if you don't understand

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the why and you don't have the discipline and

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the consistency, these are the times when you're

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going to fall off the wagon. And if you're already

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breaking the rules and if you're already into

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that cycle, this is the time when you are going

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to go way off the deep end. And as we know, having

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been in that obese mindset and that obese world,

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once we go. down that rabbit hole, it is so hard

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to get back out. And it is so hard to get back

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into that mindset because we so easily can flip

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that switch of. well, I deserve this or I need

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this or I can have a little bit more or I just

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have a little bit more. This isn't going to matter.

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Yeah, I've already ruined it. I might as well

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keep going. And we know how hard it is to get

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out of those mindsets and to be successful. So

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if you are already in a few weeks or a few months

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out and you're already down that I can break

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the rule rabbit hole, it is going to catch up

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with you. So fast, so fast. And it's so hard

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to get out of it. There's a reason that there's

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such high regain. One thing I want to say, and

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this is going to be super controversial, and

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this is not meant to make anybody feel bad, but

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there's been a lot of posts as well coming out

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a lot from the rule breakers and people looking

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for justification that are things like, I didn't

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lose a hundred pounds in my first year. And the

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response is, yeah, because that's utter bullshit.

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Nobody's going to lose 100 pounds in a year.

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And if they tell you they are, they're lying.

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And that's just not achievable. Like I lost,

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you know, 60 pounds and that's good. Now, I'll

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preface. You will not hit your goal weight in

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your first year unless your goal weight is to

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lose a minimal amount of weight. It is on average

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takes people up to three years to hit their goal

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weight. And that that's. you know, pretty universal.

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And even your clinic would tell you, you won't

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hit your goal weight in your first year. Don't,

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and that's fine. That makes sense. This is a

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process that if you look it up actually does

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take between, you know, two and three years to

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fully be where you want it to be. Cool. Right.

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It's utter bullshit that people try to pretend

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like you can't lose a hundred pounds in your

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first year. I have successfully lost it. Steph

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has going to successfully hit that. You haven't

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hit it yet, but you're close, right? By which,

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what, sorry? A hundred pounds in your first year.

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Oh yeah. I'm over. I'm at 109 .7 as of this morning.

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There we go. So yeah, I, I easily lost over a

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hundred pounds in my first year. Now, again,

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depends on what your starting weight is. I had

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a lot of weight to lose. I'm at 160 pounds lost,

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but a hundred of those, I think a hundred and

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I want to say maybe 20 was in my first year.

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Um, and it depends on your starting weight. Now

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I've followed, we'll get into what we followed

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and what we didn't follow. Cause we broke the

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rules. I want to be really clear. We break the

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rules. But we're going to talk about the rules

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that are meant to be bent and the rules that

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like, OK, your choice. But people are trying

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to justify only losing 40 or 50 pounds. And I

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want to stress that's a huge amount of weight

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to lose. And I am not trying to make for sure

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at all. And there are some people who lose slow

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and that is OK. But the people I'm trying to

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mention are the ones that. are breaking the rules

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and thinking it's okay and treating themselves

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and then have the nerve to say, I only lost 60

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pounds in a year and then try to justify it by

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saying, anyone who's lost more than that is lying.

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No, it is 100 % possible to lose 100 or more

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pounds in your first year. I exercised like crazy.

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I followed the rules. You just do what you're

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supposed to do. It's not rocket science. No,

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I did what I was supposed to do. I lost what

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I was supposed to lose. Now, some people lose

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fast and slow. But if you follow the rules, you're

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mainly going to be successful. Now, there will

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be people out there going, fuck you, Hannah.

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I followed the fucking rules and I didn't lose

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all of that. And I'm sure that does happen rarely,

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rarely. There's anomalies. Yeah, for sure. I

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would challenge you to really look at yourself

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and say, you sure you weren't having some snacks

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and some sugar? Were you following the fat and

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the sugar and the calorie counting? Were you

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exercising? Because that's the other one. We

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should even, we're not even just talking about

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food. The amount of fucking people, and Steph,

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you can call me out on this because you should.

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The amount of fucking people that don't follow

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the goddamn exercise guidelines and rules blows

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my mind. Like you need to exercise every day.

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And that doesn't mean run or weight lift or do

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all that stuff. But they say strength training

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three times a week. Massive. and then try to

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walk or do something every day and it's only

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for 30 minutes they're not out here saying you

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need to do 17 hours it makes me so it makes me

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so angry when people and you could yes you could

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have this surgery do no exercise and lose weight

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as we've said so okay so a couple points first

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point people who say you know the surgery didn't

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work i follow the rules It's not rocket science,

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guys. It's like anything. You follow the rules.

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You do what you're supposed to do. It works.

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Like in school, you do your homework. You study.

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You get decent grades. If you do what they tell

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you, they would not do this surgery for so long

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and so many of them if it didn't work. So number

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one. Number two, on the movement side, do I like

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exercising? No. Have I ever liked it? No. get

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up at 4 .45 every day to do my exercises now.

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Do I enjoy it? Nope. Do I do it because it's

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fun? No, I do it because I need to be consistent

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because I know that if I don't do it, I'm going

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to pay the price for it. And because my doctor

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told me to. And because at the end of the day,

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I feel better after I do it. I feel like crap

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if I don't. But you could have the surgery, not

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exercise, say, I don't like exercise. I can't

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exercise and lose weight. Sure. But. Is it good

00:22:43.779 --> 00:22:46.579
for your lean muscle mass, lean body mass? No.

00:22:46.700 --> 00:22:48.700
Is it good for your joints? No. Is it good for

00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:50.539
your bones? No. Is it good for your loose skin?

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No. Is it good? Like there's a, again, there's

00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.779
a reason why they tell you to do it. And what

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makes me so frustrated sometimes, and I used

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to say this when I was obese too, is I can't

00:23:01.299 --> 00:23:03.960
exercise. I can't do that. I'm too big for that.

00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.700
My body hurts too much for that. When we talk

00:23:06.700 --> 00:23:09.799
about movement and exercise, We're not talking

00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:13.900
about 60 -minute hit high -intensity cardio or

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running or this. We're talking about 20 to 30

00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.059
minutes of movement. And if for you, that means

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you're starting sitting in a chair, doing some

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.980
exercises with an exercise band, cool. If that

00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:32.299
means you're starting with chair yoga or bed

00:23:32.299 --> 00:23:37.000
yoga, cool. You have to do something and then

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work your way up. And there's so many programs

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out there that can be modified. I have been working

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out consistently for two years. More consistently

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now since surgery in the last little while. But

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do I modify all the damn time? Oh my God, I do.

00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:56.319
I just didn't modify my leg workout. I modified

00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:58.500
half my workout this morning. I can't do these

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lunges. No, half my workout this morning. Oh

00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:06.710
my gosh. Right. And like the one trainer that

00:24:06.710 --> 00:24:09.369
I'm using now on my app, I love and he always

00:24:09.369 --> 00:24:12.549
says to he goes, you should be modifying because

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you should be working yourself to the point of

00:24:15.109 --> 00:24:18.190
failure for the for the program I'm doing. Right.

00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:20.809
So he goes, if you're not modifying, you're not

00:24:20.809 --> 00:24:22.950
doing something right because you should be pushing

00:24:22.950 --> 00:24:26.490
yourself and working. But I modify every program

00:24:26.490 --> 00:24:29.700
I do because. My knees aren't so great or I'm

00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:31.920
really sore from the next day or I just physically

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.900
cannot hold my body in that position yet. And

00:24:34.900 --> 00:24:37.460
that's fine. So all of this, all of this, oh,

00:24:37.660 --> 00:24:40.680
I don't have to exercise. I can't exercise is

00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.119
total utter bullshit. I'm sorry. There is some

00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.039
form of movement out there that you can do. And

00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.839
like I said, there's things like bed yoga, which

00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.940
100 % you can do that. I keep a pair. So I have

00:24:53.940 --> 00:24:56.240
all my exercise stuff downstairs. And then in

00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.680
my office upstairs, I work from home. I have

00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.599
a set of exercise bands on my desk. And if I'm

00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.119
on a call where I don't have to be on camera

00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.799
for a client or if I'm listening to a meeting

00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.759
or something, I can pull out those bands. I can

00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.799
do some resistance work with my upper body or

00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.839
my legs while I'm on a call. There's always something

00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:20.880
you can do. So this whole thing drives me nuts.

00:25:21.259 --> 00:25:23.359
It's not 30 minutes consistently either. It's

00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:24.839
not like they said, you need to go and start

00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:27.059
and fit. Like if throughout the day you go, yeah,

00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:29.119
I went for three, 10 minute walks. Great. There's

00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.140
your 30 minutes. You're done. Like, and the other

00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:33.460
thing is like, okay, you don't go one day. That's

00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:35.259
fine. But you're like, oh, well I'm going on

00:25:35.259 --> 00:25:38.200
like a 10 K hike. Okay. Yeah. You like, you can

00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.400
add your minutes for the full week here, folks.

00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.799
You don't have to be like, oh, it has to be 30

00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:44.880
minutes. Start to finish every day. Like they're

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.160
basically saying add 30 minutes to every day.

00:25:47.609 --> 00:25:49.809
Whatever that is for the week is how much movement

00:25:49.809 --> 00:25:52.309
we want you doing in the week. And it's not intense

00:25:52.309 --> 00:25:55.970
and high. It's literally walk, go walk. Now,

00:25:56.029 --> 00:25:57.990
yeah, she's right. You don't have to do it. You

00:25:57.990 --> 00:25:59.769
could be fine, but it will catch up with you.

00:25:59.809 --> 00:26:02.390
And you can see it in influencers who are years

00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:04.190
out. There's a really famous one that you and

00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:06.730
I follow. And she recently had to admit she wasn't

00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:09.150
working out and it all caught up with her and

00:26:09.150 --> 00:26:11.269
she started gaining weight. So she had to start

00:26:11.269 --> 00:26:15.430
working out again. It's important. One big rule,

00:26:15.569 --> 00:26:17.730
and I broke this and Steph has been holding me

00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:20.130
very accountable, is you need to strength train.

00:26:20.269 --> 00:26:22.390
And I kind of thought, I don't give a fuck. I

00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:24.410
run. I'm really healthy. I'm losing weight. Who

00:26:24.410 --> 00:26:26.970
cares? Again, it was one of those rules where

00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:29.849
I wasn't seeing the impact in my body. But you

00:26:29.849 --> 00:26:31.769
need to strength train because your loose skin

00:26:31.769 --> 00:26:34.930
is huge and muscle wasting is a major issue when

00:26:34.930 --> 00:26:37.250
you lose this much weight. Oh my gosh. I've ignored

00:26:37.250 --> 00:26:39.410
it to a point where I shouldn't have. And it

00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:41.829
was my physiotherapist who said, You know why

00:26:41.829 --> 00:26:44.289
you're getting such terrible chest and back pain

00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:46.750
when you're running? You have no muscle up there.

00:26:46.849 --> 00:26:48.829
Yeah. You need to start lifting weight because

00:26:48.829 --> 00:26:50.890
you're holding your arms for an hour and a half

00:26:50.890 --> 00:26:53.750
while you're doing a 10K and you like excruciating

00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:55.769
collarbone and back pain. Your lean body mask.

00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.400
Your lean body mass goes down drastically with

00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.660
rapid weight loss. And when I do my measurements,

00:27:01.059 --> 00:27:03.599
I kept seeing all my measurements. Everything

00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:05.240
was going down really well. And then I would

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.180
get to the bottom of the list and there'd be

00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:08.839
this other drop. And I was like, what is this?

00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.680
And yeah, it was my lean body mass kept dropping

00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.819
and dropping and dropping. I just did. I'm doing

00:27:13.819 --> 00:27:15.720
the program Steph's doing, which is dope as hell,

00:27:15.779 --> 00:27:17.980
might I add. So I'll share it more on my Instagram

00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:19.920
later. We're not endorsing it or anything. We're

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:21.980
just saying we do the same one. But I just did

00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:24.759
a leg workout two days ago. and i haven't done

00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:26.900
it in a while but i felt great super heavy weights

00:27:26.900 --> 00:27:28.980
because i felt full of myself and here we go

00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:31.720
squatting lunging lunging squatting I could not

00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.000
move yesterday. Like I could not lower myself

00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.700
down to the toilet. I was in so much excruciating

00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:38.900
pain on the couch that I couldn't walk the dog.

00:27:39.099 --> 00:27:41.680
And I, this is why I was like, if I was more

00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.619
consistent and I was maybe modifying exercises

00:27:44.619 --> 00:27:47.640
and doing things smartly, I wouldn't be suffering

00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.980
this major blowout now for two days of excruciating

00:27:50.980 --> 00:27:53.579
muscle pain from doing the workout. And that's

00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:55.880
what consistency does if you fall off. So for

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.000
example, I had to take a break from running because

00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.140
I started to have knee pain, which, you know,

00:28:00.140 --> 00:28:02.589
it's a thing. it happens. And now I'm back into

00:28:02.589 --> 00:28:03.950
running. Do you think I'm going to go out and

00:28:03.950 --> 00:28:06.589
run a 10K? Nope. I'm back to run walking. I'm

00:28:06.589 --> 00:28:08.410
going to run for a minute, walk for 30, run.

00:28:08.529 --> 00:28:10.490
And people were like, oh, and I was like, well,

00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:12.490
that's how I consistently get back to where I

00:28:12.490 --> 00:28:14.829
was before because I haven't been consistent

00:28:14.829 --> 00:28:16.589
these last couple of months because I'm recovering

00:28:16.589 --> 00:28:19.210
from pneumonia and I have a knee injury. So it

00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:21.630
is just about finding your groove and doing it.

00:28:21.910 --> 00:28:24.970
Steph, I want to ask you quickly, what are the

00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:30.220
rules that you will bend? I took a while for

00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:31.680
this one. I don't know why I was so afraid of

00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.779
it, but I, I use a straw, which is a no, no.

00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.599
Yep. I was a big straw user before surgery and

00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.079
I was really worried about not using a straw

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.779
post -surgery. So I didn't for a while leading

00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:46.460
up to surgery. And then I didn't for a while

00:28:46.460 --> 00:28:48.759
after I was just really paranoid about the gas,

00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:50.680
the pain and getting the extra air in there.

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.559
But now I use a straw. I drink carbonated beverages.

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.019
which are typically not recommended. Hannah will

00:28:58.019 --> 00:28:59.700
be pleased to know that I have been drinking

00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:04.480
caffeine for the last four days. I am back on

00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.099
coffee, protein coffee, we'll say. But I went

00:29:08.099 --> 00:29:10.079
from drinking two coffees a day pre -surgery,

00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.000
then I went to decaf, and then I would do half

00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.200
-caf a couple days a week, but mainly decaf.

00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.079
But now I am back to the full -fledged caffeine.

00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:22.720
That's when I break. I don't break the sugar

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.359
one really too much. There's been times when

00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.940
I know like Easter, I maybe had a couple more

00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:30.660
candies than I should have. But again, that's

00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:32.500
one of those moments, like I said, where, okay,

00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.559
yeah, we were getting Easter stuff together.

00:29:35.019 --> 00:29:38.720
And I may have had a couple candies. Did I have

00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.460
a whole bag? No. Did I have three or four? Yeah.

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.140
Was I trying to tell myself to not have any?

00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.059
Of course. But you know what? I had my three

00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:47.740
candies move on. Am I going to have any more?

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:50.700
Nope. The bag's gone. It is what it is. Um, so

00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:53.400
there's moments like that. Um, but really I,

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:57.240
my big ones are, um, I didn't, I didn't cheat

00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.180
on the red meat only because I'm not a big red

00:29:59.180 --> 00:30:02.000
meat eater also, which helped. It normally made

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.960
me ill. Yeah. It always sat heavy with me in

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.240
general. Um, but my big ones are, I use a straw.

00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.259
I drink caffeine again now. I drink carbonated

00:30:11.259 --> 00:30:15.259
beverages. I'd say those are probably my biggest

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:20.619
bends. And again, these are all things that I

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:23.980
waited a while for. I tested it out. I gave it

00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.099
a little bit of time. I tried carbonated drinks.

00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:28.039
I remember I tried a carbonated drink and it

00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.480
did not go well. So I took a couple sips. It

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.079
was really bad. I put it away. I waited another

00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:38.769
six weeks. And then I tried it again. So that's

00:30:38.769 --> 00:30:42.309
kind of the other thing, right? Is I tried it.

00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:44.549
It didn't work. Okay, cool. Not ready for it.

00:30:44.589 --> 00:30:47.730
My body says, no, leave it alone. Yep. And the

00:30:47.730 --> 00:30:50.150
reason for carbonated. Don't do it early. Stuff

00:30:50.150 --> 00:30:52.430
is far enough out to test it. I waited a year

00:30:52.430 --> 00:30:54.670
to test it. It's that it just fills your stomach

00:30:54.670 --> 00:30:56.549
very quickly. So you're not going to eat as much

00:30:56.549 --> 00:30:59.130
and it can lead to a lot of irritation, but I

00:30:59.130 --> 00:31:02.930
will echo stuff. I do use a straw. I waited an

00:31:02.930 --> 00:31:04.829
appropriate amount of time to start using a straw.

00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:06.710
It was definitely not right out of surgery. I

00:31:06.710 --> 00:31:09.210
drink more with a straw and that's a good thing.

00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:12.849
I wasn't hitting hydration. So I use a straw.

00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:14.910
The reason they want you to wait is that you

00:31:14.910 --> 00:31:18.680
can. intake too much air it can cause bloating

00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.240
and pain and you can over drink quickly so in

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.180
your first month i do not recommend you use it

00:31:24.180 --> 00:31:26.579
because you'll gulp and like the pain it'll hurt

00:31:26.579 --> 00:31:31.220
it oh it's not worth it no but straws i'm fine

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:33.059
with they're not going to ruin or break the other

00:31:33.059 --> 00:31:36.119
the other rule that i break that i just thought

00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.680
of now because i'm looking at my protein coffee

00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.450
is protein shakes And this is where, yeah, this

00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:44.470
is where again, like programs will vary too.

00:31:45.049 --> 00:31:48.250
Because a friend of mine had bypass and her immediate

00:31:48.250 --> 00:31:52.269
post -surgery recovery plan and liquid plan from

00:31:52.269 --> 00:31:55.230
her program was protein shakes. Whereas our program

00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:58.329
says, yeah, our program says definitely not.

00:31:58.430 --> 00:32:00.970
Like they are emergency situations only. I drink

00:32:00.970 --> 00:32:03.029
a protein shake a day. Same with like protein

00:32:03.029 --> 00:32:05.049
bars. They don't like protein bars. I will eat

00:32:05.049 --> 00:32:07.789
protein bars. I eat a protein bar a day because

00:32:07.789 --> 00:32:11.150
that is my goddamn dessert. 100%. So that's something

00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:13.309
that I'm sorry. I understand there may be people

00:32:13.309 --> 00:32:16.910
who rely very heavily on the protein shakes and

00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:18.890
then aren't getting their nutrients in. However,

00:32:19.109 --> 00:32:21.869
yeah, I track my food. I know what I'm eating.

00:32:22.309 --> 00:32:24.589
I'm going to have my damn protein shake and call

00:32:24.589 --> 00:32:27.730
it a day. I eat it as a treat. My protein bar

00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:29.529
is a dessert. Now, the reason they don't want

00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:32.089
you having... in our program, drinks and bars,

00:32:32.309 --> 00:32:34.789
is they want you getting it from real food. So

00:32:34.789 --> 00:32:37.190
I can confidently say two years post -op, I have

00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.609
a very good relationship with food. I have so

00:32:39.609 --> 00:32:42.130
much real food in my diet that I treat the Bilt

00:32:42.130 --> 00:32:44.710
Bar as my dessert at night. And a protein coffee

00:32:44.710 --> 00:32:47.190
is just something I have on the side. The protein

00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:50.329
coffee no longer replaces breakfast or replaces

00:32:50.329 --> 00:32:53.369
a meal for me. Exactly. It is in part of my full

00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:56.849
diet count. If you are replacing meals with supplement

00:32:56.849 --> 00:32:59.069
stuff like bars and shakes, no. Then we have

00:32:59.069 --> 00:33:01.269
a problem. That's the rule not to break. It should

00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:03.970
not be replacing meals for you. It should be

00:33:03.970 --> 00:33:06.750
in addition to get to your protein goal, but

00:33:06.750 --> 00:33:08.690
you have to get to a world where you can get

00:33:08.690 --> 00:33:10.750
the bulk of your protein from real food. So,

00:33:10.750 --> 00:33:12.970
and that's why I like we say tracking, tracking

00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:15.230
is important because I know at the end of the

00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:17.670
day, I've had this whole food, this whole food,

00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:19.210
this whole food. And I can look and say, yep,

00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:21.150
all I had today that wasn't whole food was my

00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:23.630
protein coffee. I'm cool. Or you know what? It

00:33:23.630 --> 00:33:27.970
was an addition. exactly facing your meals exactly

00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:30.769
or there's a rule to bend yeah there's a day

00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:32.829
when i'll look and say okay steph you had you

00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:34.269
had a really busy day on the road so you had

00:33:34.269 --> 00:33:36.230
a protein coffee and then you had a built bar

00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:39.890
and then you had another we'll say fake processed

00:33:39.890 --> 00:33:42.950
protein yeah maybe maybe now we need to really

00:33:42.950 --> 00:33:45.609
up the veggies and the the chicken or whatever

00:33:45.609 --> 00:33:47.799
for the rest of the day and i've been there Yeah,

00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.119
it happens. I've had the bars. It's so easy to

00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.440
go buy protein stuff and think it's really great,

00:33:53.579 --> 00:33:55.480
but you have to check yourself. I used to have

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.079
a rule, no more than one, but now I allow two

00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.339
because I like to have my protein coffee. So

00:34:01.339 --> 00:34:03.519
I don't count the protein coffee, but no more

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.480
than one. So in a day, I'm not going to have

00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.300
a bar and a bag of protein chips and a protein

00:34:08.300 --> 00:34:10.900
coffee. Like, no, now I'm getting into an area

00:34:10.900 --> 00:34:13.039
that's not okay for my development and what I'm

00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.619
doing. So I will bend on the straw. I use them.

00:34:17.099 --> 00:34:19.539
carbonated beverages because it works and again

00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:23.300
it gets my hydration in um what else do i what

00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:26.099
else do i bend on um i'll be fully just like

00:34:26.099 --> 00:34:28.420
fully transparent i ate dill pickles in my pre

00:34:28.420 --> 00:34:31.739
-surgery diet i cracked and there were two days

00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:35.840
where i had dill pickles um i will not bend on

00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.760
sugar so 10 grams of sugar or less per serving

00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.880
i have upped that to 13. just because there's

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.260
some things I like that are 11, but I don't go

00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:49.579
past that. I'm not making this a slippery slope.

00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.679
I will not bend on that sugar rule because it's

00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.219
so addictive. It leads to binging. It's not great.

00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.500
I don't bend on that. The fat rule is one that

00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:00.920
I bend on. And this is controversial to some

00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.800
people. There is some updates to the program

00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.800
that were not mine when I went through it that

00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.000
says something like four or five grams of fat

00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.969
per serving. Yeah. My rule is that I would like

00:35:12.969 --> 00:35:17.050
my fat per serving to be 10 % or less. So I look

00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:19.869
at kind of the overall percentage of fat in my

00:35:19.869 --> 00:35:22.409
meal. And I want that to be as close to a single

00:35:22.409 --> 00:35:26.510
digit as possible as in like, Oh, 9 .6 % fat

00:35:26.510 --> 00:35:29.929
in this meal. Great. I love that. There were

00:35:29.929 --> 00:35:31.510
things we looked at, like, was it, I can't remember

00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:32.889
off the top of my head, but maybe it was eggs.

00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:36.500
It was something where. It didn't, you couldn't

00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.579
even have that food. And we're like, but it's

00:35:38.579 --> 00:35:41.880
a healthy, good for you food. So I have avocado.

00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:46.940
Yeah. Yeah. Right. So that one I bend on and

00:35:46.940 --> 00:35:50.179
I know an egg, for example, and one like an egg.

00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:52.760
Yeah. You could be over with an egg, which is

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.119
insane. So one egg is five grams. So you're just

00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:57.400
going to have an egg. That's going to be your

00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.599
whole meal. Right. So that one. Take it with

00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.539
a grain of salt. Yeah, that one slightly, but

00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:06.150
you have to. if you're going to bend on some

00:36:06.150 --> 00:36:07.849
rules, you have to look at like, well, what am

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:09.849
I doing? So I didn't just go, oh, well, eat whatever

00:36:09.849 --> 00:36:13.030
fat you want to eat. No, I said, I'm setting

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:14.929
a rule that's a little bit more attainable, but

00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:17.670
still in the spirit of what it is we're looking

00:36:17.670 --> 00:36:20.309
for, which is my total percentage per serving.

00:36:20.409 --> 00:36:22.789
The big thing to look at is your overall day.

00:36:22.909 --> 00:36:25.469
As long as my overall day balances, then I'm

00:36:25.469 --> 00:36:27.869
fine with it. And as you get a little bit further

00:36:27.869 --> 00:36:30.329
out from surgery, depends on like as a runner

00:36:30.329 --> 00:36:32.989
or what you're doing, some people just need a

00:36:32.989 --> 00:36:37.190
bit more fat. allowance, which is fine. So I

00:36:37.190 --> 00:36:39.909
bend slightly on the fat. I do not bend on calorie

00:36:39.909 --> 00:36:43.949
counting. I do not bend on sugar. I do not bend

00:36:43.949 --> 00:36:46.610
on exercise. That is a part of my life now that

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:49.630
I've committed to and will follow. I do not bend

00:36:49.630 --> 00:36:52.710
on vitamins. I think it's fucking ludicrous to

00:36:52.710 --> 00:36:54.849
hear people say that they don't take their vitamins.

00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:58.760
Yeah, I will bend on vitamins. is i work with

00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.460
my doctor not the clinic anymore to pick the

00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:03.579
vitamins that are best for me the clinic has

00:37:03.579 --> 00:37:06.840
a kind of spray and pray all in one this is what

00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.820
we think would be best steph and i have learned

00:37:08.820 --> 00:37:11.530
through this journey it's not It is not unique

00:37:11.530 --> 00:37:13.989
enough to each body. And some of the recommendations

00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:16.809
actually don't make any sense. So my doctor and

00:37:16.809 --> 00:37:19.710
I are picking my lifelong vitamin journey together.

00:37:19.949 --> 00:37:22.409
And that makes more sense for me. That's the

00:37:22.409 --> 00:37:24.929
slight bend in that rule, but I will never not

00:37:24.929 --> 00:37:27.309
be taking my vitamins. That is a commitment for

00:37:27.309 --> 00:37:31.269
life that I will do. Those are, yeah, I think

00:37:31.269 --> 00:37:34.230
those are the biggies. Oh, desserts. Okay. Yep.

00:37:34.780 --> 00:37:36.300
I absolutely think it's okay to have desserts,

00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.940
but they fall within my sugar range. So it is

00:37:38.940 --> 00:37:41.119
okay for me to have a donut or cake or something

00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.820
if it falls within my 10 grams of sugar or less.

00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:46.280
And I've been that person out with friends where

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.880
they've been like, let's have it. And I go, I

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.360
need to know how much sugar is in it. And it's

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.519
come back at like 26 grams of sugar. And I go,

00:37:51.539 --> 00:37:53.739
no, sorry, I'm not, I can't have that. Like,

00:37:53.739 --> 00:37:56.940
and I won't budge on that, but I will have desserts.

00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.739
I will have treats, but it's like healthy treats

00:38:01.739 --> 00:38:06.409
now. And moderation. moderation right yeah we've

00:38:06.409 --> 00:38:08.690
talked about that too where like I have one instead

00:38:08.690 --> 00:38:13.389
of a bag it's just having limits instead of buying

00:38:13.389 --> 00:38:16.309
kernels you know exactly I bring stuff to the

00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:17.889
movie theaters instead of you know I'll bring

00:38:17.889 --> 00:38:20.150
a built bar I brought so okay I did buy some

00:38:20.150 --> 00:38:22.230
kernels because I I have found that the small

00:38:22.230 --> 00:38:25.210
in this the flavor I like is actually fairly

00:38:25.210 --> 00:38:27.500
low calorie and low fat and I was like oh So

00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:30.039
I brought a little Ziploc bag of kernels and

00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.840
a brownie puff built bar to how to train your

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.619
dragon this week. And like, that was my treat.

00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.739
And I was so happy about it. So there are areas,

00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.300
but I just, as we wrap this up, want to caution

00:38:41.300 --> 00:38:44.780
people. You're, you're bending in areas that

00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:47.320
really worry us. You should be following the

00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.559
rules of your clinic for a reason. You should

00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.780
be exercising. You should not be having over

00:38:53.780 --> 00:38:57.400
10 grams of shit. If you're going to bend, bend

00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.420
in moderation. Like for example, okay, 11 to

00:39:00.420 --> 00:39:03.579
13 grams. Sure. Because you'll probably balance

00:39:03.579 --> 00:39:05.480
it out in the rest of your day. Eating fruit,

00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.960
I bend on that. I eat fruit. You should eat fruit.

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:09.420
It's fucking weird that you don't eat fruit.

00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.360
It's so fucking weird that there are pockets

00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.280
of the bariatric community saying fruit's bad.

00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.059
I don't count fruit towards my sugar because

00:39:16.059 --> 00:39:18.179
it's naturally occurring fruit sugar. Now that

00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:20.280
doesn't mean I go eat seven apples and a goddamn

00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.659
banana every day. but eat fruit please just eat

00:39:23.659 --> 00:39:26.719
the fruit weird people don't eat fruit um i keep

00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.019
an eye on my carbs i don't bend on that one but

00:39:29.019 --> 00:39:31.239
that's my personal one if people want to people

00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.219
want to bend on that one like i know runners

00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:35.960
bariatric runners who eat way more carbs than

00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.579
they do um protein because they need the source

00:39:39.579 --> 00:39:41.659
for running yeah do that with your dietitian

00:39:41.659 --> 00:39:44.519
that makes sense we just wanted to caution that

00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.260
we're worried about people so early in their

00:39:47.260 --> 00:39:50.480
journey that we're seeing on tiktok um saying

00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.519
that it's totally okay to not take vitamins because

00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.840
they know two people who don't to say it's totally

00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.599
okay to um drink 32 grams of sugar in a coffee

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.619
in the morning to say it's totally fine to be

00:40:00.619 --> 00:40:02.599
drinking diet cokes and eating doritos and count

00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.039
that as a lunch um yeah people are losing weight

00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:08.139
and it's fine right be cautious it's going to

00:40:08.139 --> 00:40:09.860
catch up with you that's that's just our advice

00:40:09.860 --> 00:40:12.159
it will catch up with you and there's a reason

00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.119
there's rules um they're not always just physical

00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.739
symptoms you'll feel it's like the mental side

00:40:17.739 --> 00:40:20.920
of of doing this. Um, and the ones that like,

00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:24.159
I would just say, I think you should always follow

00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:25.659
through on. I think everyone in the bariatric

00:40:25.659 --> 00:40:28.000
program should have a therapist at least for

00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.619
a minimum of a year. I would say two, I think

00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:33.360
you need mental health, um, just support while

00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:34.719
you go through this because your body's about

00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.920
to change. I think you need to count calories.

00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.920
I won't budge on that one. You need to be doing

00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.079
it. And, um, I don't think you should be breaking

00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.139
the rules in your first year. I think if you

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:48.090
want to start bending the rules. at least wait

00:40:48.090 --> 00:40:49.929
till your eight months post -op before you start

00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:51.829
bending some of the rules, including the straw

00:40:51.829 --> 00:40:53.889
one and the carbonated beverage one, because

00:40:53.889 --> 00:40:56.110
you have to prove to yourself that you can commit

00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.769
to following the rules and that you can actually

00:40:58.769 --> 00:41:01.570
do this. It's not until you can prove that you've

00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:03.630
done it and you trust yourself that you should

00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:07.690
be making modifications because you need to show

00:41:07.690 --> 00:41:10.409
discipline at least for the first eight months.

00:41:10.630 --> 00:41:13.510
Then you can start going, I trust myself to have

00:41:13.510 --> 00:41:16.130
a straw. I trust myself to have 12 grams of sugar

00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:20.030
instead of 10. Yeah. That's what I end my advice

00:41:20.030 --> 00:41:23.530
on. Yep. Build the foundations. Bottom line is

00:41:23.530 --> 00:41:25.510
they're there for a reason. If you aren't going

00:41:25.510 --> 00:41:28.130
to follow the rules, the majority of the rules,

00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:31.309
then don't want to hear you complain about it

00:41:31.309 --> 00:41:33.329
later. I don't want to hear it didn't work. I

00:41:33.329 --> 00:41:38.150
don't want the woe is me. And at the end of the

00:41:38.150 --> 00:41:41.639
day, please don't encourage other people. to

00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.019
break the rules as well. Let them make the choice

00:41:44.019 --> 00:41:46.840
for themselves. Just because you want to do it

00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.579
doesn't mean it's okay for others. Don't brag

00:41:49.579 --> 00:41:51.900
about it. You don't see Steph and I talking about

00:41:51.900 --> 00:41:54.380
what we bend and modify, except for this episode

00:41:54.380 --> 00:41:55.840
right now because we thought it was important.

00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:58.880
And because they're minor. Yeah. And I don't

00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.219
tell people, go have 15 grams of sugar. The one

00:42:01.219 --> 00:42:03.239
thing I will tell people is please eat fruit.

00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.760
It's so important in your life. Yes. Fiber. And

00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.760
exercise. Please exercise. You didn't have the

00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.619
surgery to not exercise. Yeah. This is a big

00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:13.659
deal. So don't throw it out the window. And as

00:42:13.659 --> 00:42:15.860
we've said, this is not a magic pill. You got

00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:18.019
to put in the effort. There's rules for a reason.

00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.260
And if you follow the rules and you stay consistent,

00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:23.739
it's going to work. It's not easy. By no means

00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:25.940
are we saying that following the rules is easy

00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:28.500
and a walk in the park, but they're there for

00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:31.320
a reason. And if you do it and if you stay consistent,

00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.260
you will be successful, period. Give yourself

00:42:35.260 --> 00:42:38.320
time to trust yourself because you can't be breaking

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.610
stuff. months into this journey, it will backfire

00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:46.670
down the line. Yeah. Okay. Love it. Well, like

00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:49.010
always Steph, thanks for joining me on this episode.

00:42:49.429 --> 00:42:51.530
Thanks, Hannah. Love it. I'm going to go use

00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:53.849
my straw and drink my protein shake. I'm going

00:42:53.849 --> 00:42:57.369
to go drink a caffeinated beverage. Oh, love

00:42:57.369 --> 00:43:00.309
it. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you for

00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:02.690
being the best in the world. We love you all

00:43:02.690 --> 00:43:04.929
so much. Have a great week. See ya.